Evolution
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- mikotondria30
Sorry, whip, is all you're going to do in this thread post that biologists don't have a complete understanding of how life began, and then just assert that therefore everything about evolution is false ?
Or just allude to the fact that you don't believe in evolution and use the fact that neither you nor us has the facts of biogenesis and imply a false equivalence based on that ?I'm almost interested to know.
- ha, seriouslymonospaced
- yes.whhipp
- haha, touche.mikotondria3
- ETM0
- mathinc0
I've never understood the 'there's no way life was created by chance' argument. If you take all of time as represented by the Empire State building, the amount of time we've been here could be represented as a postage stamp in comparison. Earth, obviously, has the right conditions to support life. Why is it so hard to believe that time + right conditions = organisms that evolve and become ever more complex over that time.
If they'd never seen a car before then they'd deem an Audi A8 as being a creation of a higher power too. Or as whipp subtly frames it, 'outside influencers.'
The older I get the more I have a distaste for religion and the people who believe this crap. Why is it so important to them to believe that the earth was created FOR humankind? That the age of the earth is roughly the same as the age of human existence? Because they need to believe that earth was created just for us.. gods special little creation. I actually find great pleasure and comfort to believe that we're just the miracle of chance, time and biology and not some mystical omni-present being.
- CALLES0
so why do gay animals exist. i mean we are animals right?
- evolution tries everything?ribit
- homosexual animals are common in prides with strong hierarchies, beta-malesdrgs
- There are also asexually reproducing creatures like aphids. Life is a wondrous thing.BrokenHD
- There are some amphibians that can change their sex themselves. Nature rocks!monospaced
- breadlegz0
Evolution .. from a Christian perspective:
- correction: from ONE Christian's interpretation. Don't generalize.monospaced
- aaux0
This is why the bible thumpers have to ingrain that religion early and try to get it in schools. No adult would possibly believe such nonsense if they hadn't been brought up with it.
- ukit20
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everything is zero
- Every species, yes.
And family, and genera, and phylum, etc etc.mikotondria3 - And then the universe ends with heat death.ribit
- No, the universe ends in darkness, as dark energy pushes everything apart so far no light can travel between.mikotondria3
- fight clubpango
- multiple other universes carry on?BrokenHD
- No, the universe does end in heat death - gajillions of years after galaxies have parted.detritus
- Every species, yes.
- aaux0
- scarabin0
what if like, the aliens are us, man.
like, from the futuuuure
- http://mlkshk.com/r/…
dasohr - That's deep mangoldieboy
- Terra Nova?Maaku
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- monospaced0
Fuck it. whhipp wants some "scientific evidence" pointing toward how life originated. Before I start to explain, it's important to understand what science is and is not (not talking to those of you who understand the "method"). First, science is not a dogma and does not proclaim truths without proving them; science is a process, a tool for discovery and a process of questioning everything. Right now, science doesn't have "the" answer to how life originated, but it does have HEAPS of evidence pointing toward one, so much so it's silly to discount it. That being said, here's how it works, basically.
All living this are made of organic compounds, which contain the basic element, carbon. Carbon is important because it links together other elements to form complex molecules (water, etc), including amino acids. In DNA, the nucleotide sequence codes for the building of amino acids. Amino acids are important for life because they are the building blocks of protein molecules that make up ALL living organisms.
Then take in the timeframe and the literal "primordial ooze" that covered the planet for billions of years. Then take in all the conditions on this planet and you can see how the majority of all scientists and biologists everywhere pretty much agree that carbon-based life was a direct result of molecules forming and interacting and eventually reproducing (DNA coding). The rest is...history. Done.
- And don't even ask for citations and data. It's in every biology textbook in existence.monospaced
- Don't feel bad if you have to look up the big words. You're not a biologist or anthropologist, neither am I.monospaced
- Here's the very tip of the iceberg of evidence, in condensed form. http://en.wikipedia.…monospaced
- just a tiny bit more of evidence, it's only laughable that you would claim that science has none
http://en.wikipedia.…monospaced - http://en.wikipedia.…monospaced
- mikotondria30
He's going to ignore all of that in the specific, and again just ask for any 'evidence' for what you 'claim', and possibly a flourishing, 'ha', of self-congratulation that he's dismissed the millions of man-hours of research and peer-review of the scientific community with a single wave of his magic intellect. Can't answer my nonsensical question, can you ? he'll triumphantly assert.
No, no we can't. It wasn't a real question.
As Christopher Hitchens so wonderfully put it to Shawn Hannity - 'You give me the awful impression - and I hate to have to say it - of someone who hasn't ready any of the arguments against your position, ever."
- BrokenHD0
@Whhipp
http://www.wired.com/wiredscienc…
Life’s First Spark Re-Created in the Laboratory
By Brandon KeimEmail AuthorMay 13, 2009"A fundamental but elusive step in the early evolution of life on Earth has been replicated in a laboratory..."
- Wow. Now, if that isn't as awe-inspring as anything holy, I don't know what ismonospaced
- mathinc0
Beautiful infographic: http://www.fastcodesign.com/1670…
- monospaced0
@scarabin
That's what I'd like to think.- or maybe they're our robots evolved, like in that movie A.I.monospaced
- Or maybe they are some evolved strain of genetic material dating back to prehistoric times.ETM
- Gone and returned to find us squating.ETM
- formed0
I had a discussion with someone about this...if we teach creationism, then we surely must teach Scientology's beliefs too, right? So aliens, anyone?
- they renamed it 'intelligent design' and are trying to keep it separate from religion, it's hilariousmonospaced
- I almost miss discipler and his bullshit ID promotionaaux