Circumcision
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- sarahfailin1
- wtf, lolnotype
- Video of this?notype
- http://www.youtube.c…Akagiyama
- Miguex2
- your butt will ALWAYS be cleaner after a rinse in the bidet.hotroddy
- Wet wipes yo!fyoucher1
- Shit in the shower.detritus
- ^
lolMiguex - only if you don't want to spend money on a toilet.hotroddy
- https://upload.wikim…pablo28
- yes, wet wipesmilfhunter
- http://www.japantren…mugwart
- or eat the right foods and your shit wont be so damn messy lolfuturefood
- detritus8
I stand by the comment I made first time this thread came around.
Circumcision is an almost beautifully-devious form of cult lock-in — the most precious part of the ever-fragile male ego, irredeemably and permanently scarred to adhere to a social construct beyond the owner's ability to control.
As said here recently, it'd be one thing to circumcise a teen or an adult who has the power of choice, as part of their ascent into adulthood, quite another to foist it on a defenceless innocent.
It leads to what we see here and what hotroddy implies (well, 50% of what he implies) — the learned disgust at what is completely natural. See fyoucher1's post just above.
It's so weird to me, as I guess it is to circumcised non-Jewish, non-Muslim Americans.
What I don't get is why circumcised agnostic or atheistic Americans would do anything other than rail at the abuse metted at them by their parents.
- -fifth paragraph. Fucked editing.detritus
- My question is - what cult is it that Americans are being locked into?detritus
- To be honest, I could care less if you were born with a sombrero on it. But it is like wearing a turtleneck.fyoucher1
- Free Idea: Pink roll-up scarves for willies.detritus
- circumcision is very normal for non-jewish americans, actuallymonospaced
- it's not a religious thingmonospaced
- outside of religious ritual - which is its genesis, it's prevalence in the west began as a way to inhibit masturbation during the victorian era.Gnash
- as well as misguided ideas about cutting curing some mental disorders, among other nonsenseGnash
- Yea, mono, but have you ever asked yourself WHY it is normal to you?detritus
- I have been lately, that's for sure. I am doing it for the real health reasons, plus it looks better :)monospaced
- Not from over here they don't!detritus
- well, you're not a gorgeous woman :)monospaced
- you like cock mono ? because you are so concerned about the 'beauty' of it. btw I bet you can not tell the difference when its erectd_gitale
- stupid questionmonospaced
- hotroddy3
Who here is counter-arguing the cards dealt to them?
- Gnash6
Here is the conclusion reached by 38 authorities in child health and epidemiology from the UK, mainland Europe, and Canada in their public rebuke to the AAP in the journal Pediatrics:
“Only one of the arguments put forward by the American Academy of Pediatrics has some theoretical relevance in relation to infant male circumcision; namely, the possible protection against urinary tract infections in infant boys, which can easily be treated with antibiotics without tissue loss. The other claimed health benefits, including protection against HIV/AIDS, genital herpes, genital warts, and penile cancer, are questionable, weak, and likely to have little public health relevance in a Western context, and they do not represent compelling reasons for surgery before boys are old enough to decide for themselves.”
- UTI does not occur in 99.85% of circumcised infant males.
UTI does not occur in 98.5% of uncircumcised infant malesGnash - Girls have 10x the number of UTIs and no preemptive surgery is recommendedGnash
- is this a boner of contention for you?
sorry had to be done :)fadein11 - it's up there with FGMGnash
- if people really feel the need to mutilate their boys then currently it's their right to do so. just don't use 'science' as the reasoning.Gnash
- let's make penises whole againfadein11
- I must be missing something but how does removing the foreskin protect from STDs?yuekit
- Because isn't the normal means of protection to put something on your dick? Seems kind of backwards (although I'm sure there's some justification).yuekit
- joking aside I have always found it a little odd. And remember being shocked to discover it was a widespread procedure in the US (regardless of religion).fadein11
- @yuekit - some research says that uncircumcised penises can harbour a virus that causes cervical cancer in females. I do not know how reliable this is.fadein11
- evidence that cutting protects against STIs, is contradictory and inconclusiveGnash
- (there's a vaccine for the virus that causes cervical cancer available to both girls and boys)Gnash
- also, condom = no virusGnash
- "but vaccines"fadein11
- ^ exactly. same goes for the anti-vaxxersGnash
- I agree with you (for once) gnash. I think it is pretty horrific.fadein11
- haha. and it has to be over a dick!Gnash
- I know :)fadein11
- Lol both of yousfuturefood
- UTI does not occur in 99.85% of circumcised infant males.
- Gnash2
the Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists concluded—in another published critique—the AAP technical report is “epidemiologically incompetent and an embarrassment to the AAP.”
- Gnash5
President of Germany’s Paediatric Society:
“There is no reason from a medical point of view to remove an intact foreskin from underage boys or boys unable to give consent. ... The statement from the AAP ... has been graded by almost all other paediatric societies and associations worldwide as being scientifically untenable.”
- d_gitale0
It seems to me that circumcised guys try to defend it in order to compensate for the loss. They really don't know for what reason they have been mutilated. So in order to deal with it, it must be accepted as a good thing. Ah yes and of course health reasons lol
- OP311
This thread is the first shot fired of the war between the cuts and the uncuts. Conform! There can only be one!
- yuekit2
Made the mistake of reading this comment from 6 years ago...FFS
- sarahfailin4
there is just no need for it! your junk doesn't need any improvement.
the foreskin is supposed to be the most sensitive part of the penis. guess i'll never know!
i definitely would not circumcise my kids or anyone else's
- but, cunts with beards and silly hats know betterfuturefood
- Bearded sky wizard worshippers with really weird sexual hang-ups always know best.PhanLo
- It has nothing to do with religion, most of the time, and if one does it, that doesn't make them a "cunt with a beard"monospaced
- eh, whatevermonospaced
- Can't imaging God actually approving of this ... Rabbi passes over and he's there like "you did what to a small infant..."mugwart
- 100% god is up there masturbating to all this madness.PhanLo
- mono, but that's where it began. Now people do it to conform and be "normal", even though they are the minority in the world. It's a sad and 'tradition'.formed
- they do it for health reasons, too, and it is the majority in the USA stillmonospaced
- "health" reasons? Huh? That's nonsense too. Post-rationalizing something people do to conform to a perceived 'normal'.formed
- 58% in the US and, thankfully, on the decline. 25-30% world wide. 2% in Spain and Sweden, 1% in Japan.formed
- It's still the majority just like we have bible thumpers, etc., etc.formed
- So god who is the personification of perfection and created everything, fucked up on our penises requiring us to correct his mistake? How do religitards explain_niko
- This paradox?_niko
- a majority. that's the best metricGnash
- the majority may fool themselves into thinking they're doing it for health.Gnash
- but "many mothers prefer circumcised penises and also want their sons to resemble their fathers"
it's cultural and/or religiousGnash - The US appears to be Disneyland for adults.rabattski
- It's not cultural or religious for us. It's for health reasons. Just like millions of other people. Stop telling me my reasons aren't real.monospaced
- not saying they'r not real, they're just incorrect and misinformed.Gnash
- cut off healthy tissue that might one day fall prey to disease. what other susceptible part of the body gets removed at birth?Gnash
- The diseases in question are mostly rare in the developed world and are typically avoided by make simple behaviour choices.Gnash
- and they are otherwise treatable without surgery.Gnash
- thanks for your opinions, but my reasons certainly are not incorrect or misinformedmonospaced
- do you have a son?monospaced
- yup. that's why I know what I'm talking about. I researched the ass off this.Gnash
- Even one of the docs who wrote 'the' paper for the AAP say he did his son for religious reasons, not medical.Gnash
- "i had 3000 years of ancestors looking over my shoulder"Gnash
- your conclusions are incorrect because you're basing them 'reasons' that are incorrectGnash
- Thanks for your opinion.monospaced
- an opinion based on the science, not the feelsGnash
- also my opinion that we went to the moon, vaccines are beneficial, and water is made of hydrogen and oxygenGnash
- I understand that it's a difficult barrier to overcome. a highly charged topic that's very emotional, so it's difficult to think rationally about.Gnash
- it's charged because it's full of opinions, like yours, and like mine, and of those who are experts, and those who aren'tmonospaced
- Climate-change deniers say the same thing. it's just an opinion. (but it's not)Gnash
- the medical community is overwhelmingly against non-therapeutic circumcision, and that's based on science not opinions.Gnash
- The AAP's position has been obliterated by nearly every relevant medical communityGnash
- that's just a fact, not an opinionGnash
- thanks for the opinion :)monospaced
- mekk0