Flash huge on mobile
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- Boz0
Another AIR app out on Android market for USA Network..
https://market.android.com/detaiā¦It's kind of simple looking but people are picking it up..
Just imagine the ability to build stuff for multiple purposes in Flash and you just publish everything.. it's a dream come true..and in the process you don't really sacrifice any creative, freedom and have a blast coding because it's so easy.
- hotroddy0
The whole tablet craze is still at it's infancy. Isn't it a little unrealistic to expect Flash to be bug proof on a product that was basically introduced 2 years ago when Apple has had the last 10 years to get the HTML DOM to work with their mobile browsers?
Dissing flash isn't going to change the fact that Flash is evolving faster than HTML5 and will only get better with time.
- CyBrainX0
Are you really comparing Flash to PowerPoint?
Really?
- antagonista0
hahahaha..... "flash may not be perfect just yet"
It's been over 10 years. Just yet? If it's crap now, which it largely is, then when do you magically think it's going to be perfect?
just yet,hahahahaha. And the next version of PowerPoint will finally work for proper layouts.
- Talkin bout mobile. It works great on desktop.fyoucher1
- It's crap now? It does it's job pretty well IMO.fyoucher1
- don't be so mean you never learned to work in Flash antagonista.. it's ok if you don't get it. :)Boz
- flash is largely crap now? hahaha give your head a shake.prophetone
- dskz0
HTML5 Ads are worse than flash ads.
ALL UP IN YOUR FACE
- fyoucher10
God, can't believe this is even an argument. It's funny how people argue over this saying that something else is a better option. Yeah, Flash may not be perfect just yet. But what >> multimedia << solution is right now?
Is "HTML5" supposed to be the savior? HTML5 stuff runs like shit on mobile too. Have you ever seen a smooth HTML5 animation on your iPad or iPhone? I haven't. Shit, those iAds crash my iPad all the time. Ever been to a site that used HTML5 stuff? It runs like pure shit.
So lets get over the HTML5-is-the-shit-mentality because it's not. It's just a new and different technology. Yeah, you don't need a plugin, but you need the correct browser. Is that all? It can't even do a quarter of the things Flash can do. Jut no comparison.
I'm all for HTML5 becoming successful though, just please don't act like it's the end all solution to everything because it's not. It's far from it.
Regarding Apple and Flash causing issues on a desktop (this is coming from someone who now uses all mac stuff). Again, how come my old ass shitty old PC can run Flash perfectly fine but NEW powerhouse Macs have problems with it (I've only had Flash crash a cpl times but supposedly a lot of Mac folks run into this issue). Can you answer that question?
Again,all this crap will be old news in two years when mobile will be just as powerful as desktops from a few years ago. All problems solved.
- dskz0
- antagonista0
Adobe doctors their data, I know first hand.
- jhey0
- CyBrainX0
It's not funny or tragic to discuss this. It's a livelihood for many of us. I think they made newstoday for us to talk about stuff like this. They didn't make it for all the nonsense threads.
- Obviously, I'm an oldtimer here.CyBrainX
- get off my lawn!!!prophetone
- yeah the future is nonsense...eficks
- fuck me old timer, its not like you havent had warningseficks
- ernexbcn0
It's tragically funny how we continue to argue about this shit every once in a while bumping these stupid threads.
Enjoy your weekend!
- Boz0
The only reason Flash was bad in a way because it was never intended as a programming tool.. so for YEARS we had designers creating super unoptimized, filled with every graphic, animations imaginable to a human being..
This lasted for years.. to be honest when I was working wtih Flash 3,4,5 I was doing the same thing..
So that's where the bad rep started..
Then overtime, as people started learning, Actionscript advanced beyond what you could do with JS and finally became a fully fledged beautiful OOP language with amazing visual capabilities, it got a lot better .. unfortunately you still had people who abused it and pushed the limits to the point of 5mb preloaders and similar..
But let's face it.. this is something that's inevitable with any technology.. You have SHIT apps on App store that kill your iPHone, you have shit apps on Android that kill your ANdroid phone, you have shit HTML websites that crash browser that don't run Flash..
You don't go and start a crusade on a technology that's far far more advanced then HTML5 will ever get because it doesn't perform as great as a native app..
As I said, they should have killed HTML5 and JS support as well because any visual animations or anything more complex then an html text with some css and images will run like SHIT on a mobile device..
That doesn't mean you block it.. you allow it for those who want it and let people decide... by allowing it you are also opening doors for rapid improvement..
- formed0
All this just seems stupid to me. It should be up to the user what/which website you view, regardless if it is slow or not (there have always been slow websites!).
I heard a guy on CNBC yesterday talking about how HTML5 was going to change he universe! It was hilarious.
- thing is, if a site is slow, people will deem the device defective. thus manufacturers problemeficks
- not legally of courseeficks
- I see that happening with shitty HTML websites with JQuery lightboxes that block a whole page and crash mobile Safari.. RIGHT.. the argument is completely valid.. NOT!Boz
- RIIIIGHT.. the argument is completely valid.. NOT!Boz
- ernexbcn0
Flash not performing well on tablets or smartphones is the best example of why Apple made the right decision back then, those reasons still apply today, look at the article I linked above to see the kind of crap experience you get from it on a new tablet like the Xoom, we can only hope that Adobe one day might get this shit right.
- they should ban HTML5 and JS then too.. that's such a stupid reasoning.Boz
- Boz0
and how the fuck will run 1080p full screen porn in HTML5.. you just can't!!
HTML5 = fail :)
- you douche bag, 3d porn is where it's at. get with the times.eficks
- why can't you?animatedgif
- Best argument for flash i have read. I'm sold.jtb26
- microkorg0
"Flash makes better stuff than html5."
the porn is a lot better too.
video embedded in flash is so much better than an html5 porn animation
hahaha
- CyBrainX0
Ask the average phone/tablet user what Flash is on their page and when it's missing from iOS and they will not know.
The point is they don't know or care what it is when they see it and they don't know why they're seeing a blank square or why their vimeo movie won't play. They just like good stuff.
Flash makes better stuff than html5.
- eficks0
early on, steve jobs, and apple, once challenged adobe to bring flash to the iphone. pretty sure that apple decided to leave adobe in the dust. even if flash is somewhat ready for mobile devices.