Is Flash dead?
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- nuggler0
Chrome is going to start showing peripheral Flash content paused, so that users have to click to play it —
http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/…
Safari already does this, but Chrome has something like 64% of the browser market.
This will make banner ads finally switch over to HTML5.
- err0
IMDB started doing these takeover sites for movies. They are almost full flash sites.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1392…
- ukit0
- she is kind of fit, id hit it. i would hit him also, but i would hit him with a baseball bat.. in the headautoflavour
- he sorta looks like Mac from Always Sunny in PhillyPonyBoy
- jetSkii0
Flash vs HTML5 (Pong Game)
http://labs.codecomputerlove.com…
- ukit0
lol...HTML5 isn't advertising bro. What is this site built with? HTML4.
HTML5 is just the next version of HTML. It's kind of like if we were all using CS4 and then CS5's coming out and you guys declare its just a gimmick.
- what is the difference between html4 and 5. a few tags that have more support for js.deathboy
- those tags without js knowledge are pointless. its a js vs as thing as multimedia/animation is concerned.deathboy
- Read up on what HTML5 actually is and get back to us.ukit
- html5 is really no big deal. html5 supports flash wow. its the mobile market mainly and apple trying to capitalize on it.deathboy
- jsut enlighten me. save me sometime. i didnt knwo html5 plays video and does animationdeathboy
- show me a html5 animation? no JS compared to a AS animation. html5 takes palce of the plugin.deathboy
- not fully supported yet so its kind of a plugin in its own right. but still look at flash vs js and why flash trumped in the pastdeathboy
- Here's an example:
http://mugtug.com/sk…ukit - http://www.craftymin…ukit
- Maybe more advanced example of the first one:
http://mugtug.com/da…ukit - But you are only focused on the rich media side of things...ukit
- The last example for instance uses local storage which is like a browser based databaseukit
- There is also geolocation, microdata, web workers, lots of stuff that has nothing to do with JS or animation.ukit
- Then there's the more fundamental aspect which is that HTML5 introduces semantic tagsukit
- No more <div class="header"> instead you will just use <header>ukit
- Imagine how much standardization that will enable in terms of theming, mashups, etcukit
- A lot of people also overlook the behind the scenes aspect of what they are doingukit
- thats fine i said addressing multimedia/animationdeathboy
- HTML5 is meant to standardize how browsers render HTML, which is not a small task.ukit
- and still examples rely heavily on jsdeathboy
- Well you said it was advertising...which is sillyukit
- But sure, it relies on JS for animation. So?ukit
- i get that but as far as AS is involved in mainly compares to JSdeathboy
- its the advertising that distorts the comaprison. its not html5 vs flash its js vs asdeathboy
- Point is a lot of people put forward this view that HTML5 is a direct equivalent of Flash which it isn't...it's much larger than thatukit
- yes theres the render issue without plugin. hence mobile marketsdeathboy
- Secondly, that it's somehow hyped up by Apple? BSukit
- its not hyped up by apple? really? dont forget apple tries to hinder flash to push quicktime.deathboy
- hell whne did it get a lot of press? jobs made an attack and it worked. reason went out the window. time to side updeathboy
- All Jobs did was write one blog post...that's it.ukit
- Big deal, he's entitled to his opinion.ukit
- he is. but the truth remains its more js vs as. and his reaosnign for such a thing was to improve his already 4x oil company profit marginsdeathboy
- profit margin. he saw his stronghold on us mobile market and said tiem to try to push thing his waydeathboy
- So? What are you, a communist?ukit
- not at all. i ahve no problem with profit. its a freemarket system. jsut disappointing. liek heroin profits. 34 is too long im donedeathboy
- ukit0
The comment about HTML5 video being limited because "you can't cue things, add code, make in interactive" isn't really true. Whatever you can do with JS can obviously be applied to control HTML5 video.
The reason YouTube didn't switch to it yet has more to do with the simple fact that most browsers don't yet support HTML5.
- ukit0
Actually it's the first reason they listed - "Standard Video Format"
Obviously it's an issue that will take at least a little time to resolve. But it's not a deal killer, nor are any of the others. In fact, since writing that post they already solved one of the issues:
http://apiblog.youtube.com/2010/…
In other words, sure there are some kinks to be worked out, but I'm 99% sure that YouTube will eventually switch to HTML5.
- ukit0
Browsers aren't apps, they're like the technology that runs the app on your phone. If you have to draw an analogy.
- grafician-1
Yes.
- :-(PhanLo
- I updated my machine recently so can't properly access my old Flash stuff properly as CS6 doesn't work.
Was great for generative stuffPhanLo - Touch Designer seems fun, I reckon I'll learn that properly next year.PhanLo
- Yeah, believe Apple and Adobe worked together on updates since it seemed most designers were using Apple to push them to the pay to play.hydro74
- dkoblesky0
Since this discussion is about that state of technology from 10-12 years ago, and since the name 'Steve' keeps getting dropped in comments....I thought this little brilliant film would be enjoyable.
"Steve is not happy"
- vaxorcist1
Chrome starting to default pause flash ads...
- err0
- last I checked, Adobe stil makes and supports Flash, so not deadmonospaced
- hotroddy1
Flash won't die as long as it's less cumbersome to learn, create and deploy across all browsers and screens. This is currently where Flash holds the advantage.
Jobs wants it to die quickly but as long we keep using it then Apple will have no choice but to allow it.
- ORAZAL0
Do you any of you remember the Elastic Lists by Moritz Stefaner?
http://well-formed-data.net/expe…
Here's the non flash version:
http://www.sirislab.com/lab/elas…
- jhey0
No.
"Flash coming to iPhone and iPad - really"
http://money.cnn.com/2010/11/02/…