Is Flash dead?
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- ukit0
Mobile and apps will be important, but let's not overhype it - I don't think in any way shape or form we will see the traditional web "die" and be replaced by mobile. Many people spend the majority of their time at work in front of a screen, are they going to drop the 20" screen for an iPhone? I'm a pretty heavy web user and I spend 95% of my time on the "traditional web" and 5% (if that) on mobile.
- ernexbcn0
There are many Twitter clients for OS X and I'm still using the website and don't see myself turning over to a dedicated app for that any time soon.
So yeah, there might be new apps that access web content, but the browser has still a future.
- ukit0
More fundamentally, to imagine a world where mobile takes over you'd have to imagine one where people are mobile the whole time.
I tried bringing my iPad to work one day - nope, didn't work:)
- raf0
Browsers are apps themselves, and as performances grow, more tasks will be offloaded onto them, if only for ease of production.
One of the main reasons agencies are happy with current non-animated blog-style website trend is that they're faster (a.k.a. cheaper) to build than Flash ones.
Also, not every type of website will make sense as a cloud source.
- ukit0
yep fyoucher1 you are right. Flash will continue to hold on in those niche roles of banner ads and video for the short-term future. Whether that is really a victory for Flash is up for debate.
What Boz described would be a more exciting future for Flash, gaining a dominance in terms of mobile devices and TV. However that is a battle that is yet to be won.
- SrSamaurai0
http://www.osnews.com/story/2396…
microsoft looking towards html5
- fyoucher10
Re: ukit
Actually YouTube has a bunch of reasons why it's sticking with Flash, not bc of HTML not being supported. That's not even a reason listed.
http://apiblog.youtube.com/2010/…Personally, I think their MAIN reason for keeping it is because of advertising. When it comes down to it, Google is in the business of making money.
- jetSkii0
I think Youtube will eventually go HTML5 with their video if they want to give their users more power and interaction. But I don't see it happening til IE9 comes out and begin updating their users. However, it would be a great time for YouTube to offer non HTML5 compliant browsers a direct link to Google Chrome since they're owned by the same group. In fact, Google should just change over all of Google to HTML5 and also give them direct links to Chrome.
- pango0
apparently not.
http://superior-web-solutions.co…
can we please set it on fire already?
- jetSkii0
^ Apple is just cheering from the sidelines.
- deathboy0
i think you still have to look at the reasons why flash trumped javascript back in the day. then take those reasons and apply them to today. i think mobile market with lack of flash support is the only thing that can drive the use of more javascript stuff. And i think that will only be short lived with technological improvements on the mobile markets, and the willingness of powerful companies strong arming people into licensing there closed codecs and support. And still take into consideration the evolution of AS and see it will need to offer plugin free stuff. I still see noreason to declare flash dead especially since its a far broader scripting language and does more than JS. Yes js will have its place as much as it always has... no, more place with the mobile drive. but i cant see it surpassing the usage or ability AS has. Especially with the AS to JS stuff being worked on. I can only seeing js being combined in a single gui (probably called flash++) with as3 and different export options. Much like dreamweaver does more then html. Can people in advertising not fall for advertising.
- dbloc0
We ARE the aliens.
- PIZZA0
"HTML5 is being driven, sold, advertised and pushed by Apple, for the sole purpose of controlling and owning the content, the media and software, period!"
Good thing HTML5 is an open standard then with several implementations on the market already (unlike Flash), leave the tin foil hat at the door next time utopian.
- zarkonite0
https://arstechnica.com/informat…
"The rise and fall of Adobe Flash. Before Flash Player sunsets this December, we talk its legacy with those who built it."
- fues0
It's over and out now, 80% of the specheets I receive are HTML now.
- deathboy-1
I cant do a simple banner animation in javascript. However i can do it in flash. Flash is far more simple and versatile. Allowing more people to do it. Which should make it more economically feasible. I think this is why flash grew so much. More options and a gui with more people offering it. If plugins and browsers play nicely i see no big deal in having a plugin. FOr mobile devices i have seen reports that flash is superior to javascript/html 5 (PCs not in safari browsers) on battery intensive stuff. but that also comes down to how well something is built. So i could go either way. Just drives me nuts how many people who can do simple flash stuff and 0 javascript are helping to push the idea flash is dead. There is no such argument and there is no reason for someone to even need to ask such a thing. Its just advertising done by a guy who thought his media player would be the number one player, and is pissed it wasnt.