Climate Change

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  • utopian0

    Climate change is bad for everyone. But this is where it's expected to be worst in the US.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/n…

    The Impact of Climate Change on U.S. Subnational Economies

    https://www.moodysanalytics.com/…

    • When do the sea levels start rising? It's gotta be soon!MondoMorphic
    • Sea levels are rising every day, island communities disappearing as I type.PhanLo
    • Then stop typing, phan, you maniac!Gnash
    • Lol. Like that RED campaign, if Bono stopped clicking his fingers loads of people wouldn't have died.PhanLo
  • neverscared2

    Just how good were Exxon’s climate projections?

    In the 1980s, a group of scientists predicted climate change with uncanny accuracy. Those scientists happened to work for Exxon.

    Many fossil fuel companies knew about climate change well before the general public did.

    But a recent review of dozens of internal Exxon documents from the 1970s and '80s, found company scientists knew a lot more than the basics of what greenhouse gasses were doing to the planet.

    To understand what Exxon knew and how they knew it, let's go back to 1977. This was an important moment in history: Scientists and government agencies were just starting to seriously study climate change. Researchers knew the basics — carbon dioxide levels were rising, and the Earth would most likely get warmer — but there were still a lot of unanswered questions. And Exxon, a major fossil fuel company with a skilled research department, decided to spend millions of dollars to answer those questions for themselves.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/t…

    • It's called capitalism!utopian
    • It's not real, just like space.PhanLo
    • socialist countries don't burn fossil fuels? the only hail mary we have is capital-intensive entrepreneurship.hotroddy
    • Lol. Hotrods loves the lying oil companies. What s as guyPhanLo
    • the same oil companies that screwed his country over?_niko
    • the gov't screwed the oil companies. they produce only a fraction of what they used to.hotroddy
    • the irony of utopian's dimwitted comment is socialism actually can work if the country is rich in oil. look no further to Norway or Arabian countrieshotroddy
    • HotKnobby - you are such a brainwashed, boot licking, neanderthal apologist.
      Stockholm Syndrome much?
      utopian
    • apologist? you've known the same shit Exxon for nearly the same amount of time. What have you done to remedy the issue? Lying about canceling your amazon?hotroddy
  • pablo28-2

    How Global Warming hoax began

  • grafician-2

    "The European Parliament on Tuesday gave its final approval to a ban on new sales of carbon-emitting petrol and diesel cars by 2035, with a view to getting them off the continent's roads by mid-century"

    • But waiting another 30 years to be fully electric makes the entire effort uselessgrafician
  • sted0

    Based on the recordings, it is clear that the "highlighting" of the activist preceded the scene seen in the Twitter video, the standoff with the police. So, it is not true that Thunberg happily chatted with the police and then "played" for the cameras that she had to be forcibly removed from the demonstration.

    The Ministry of the Interior of the state of North Rhine-Westphalia informed the BBC that the police officers stopped and waited with Thunberg in front of the vans not for the sake of the photographers, but for logistical reasons. “They had to wait a few minutes before they could escort him to the appropriate vehicle,” the department wrote.

    The police of the Aix-la-Chapelle region wrote to France 24 that they consider it important that the media can work freely even in acute situations, but they would never agree to make organized recordings of them. "We are not extras for the staging of Greta Thunberg," they added.

    people are just dumb to understand these things.

  • grafician3

  • sted2

    • yep. It was placing guilt on the consumers vs where it belongs with the corporations. Pretty standard. Like the Crying Indian commercial..hydro74
  • grafician-1

    • 14-15 here today...grafician
    • AHAHA what is this stupid fucking mapsted
    • No need to even buy winter clothes anymore, unless you plan trips to the USgrafician
    • at 3am in Romania its fucking cold when you're hungry and needy to get to the next gas-station. i would put money on that.sted
    • 4 feeling like 4

      "fucking cold" starts at -10 sted that's why you probably moved to australia
      grafician
    • it shouldn't be the same in Bucharest as in Barcelona this time of year but heygrafician
    • time to pull the conclusion that "fucking cold" depends on what you're used to...sted
    • Smarter people than i'm an said that in 2020-2024 Europe enters into the new era of what we called Dark Ages.
      Lot of temperature fluctuations and fog...
      sted
    • This map is still annoying dumb.sted
    • Just say you can't read maps and graphs and leave it at thatgrafician
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  • utopian4

    A trash heap 62 meters (203 feet) high shows the scale of India’s climate challenge.

    Fires caused by heat and methane gas sporadically break out – the Delhi Fire Service Department has responded to 14 fires so far this year – and some deep beneath the pile can smolder for weeks or months, while men, women and children work nearby, sifting through the rubbish to find items to sell.

    Some of the 200,000 residents who live in Bhalswa say the area is uninhabitable, but they can’t afford to move and have no choice but to breathe the toxic air and bathe in its contaminated water.

    Bhalswa is not Delhi’s largest landfill. It’s about three meters lower than the biggest, Ghazipur, and both contribute to the country’s total output of methane gas.

    Methane is the second most abundant greenhouse gas after carbon dioxide, but a more potent contributor to the climate crisis because methane traps more heat. India creates more methane from landfill sites than any other country, according to GHGSat, which monitors methane via satellites.

    And India comes second only to China for total methane emissions, according to the International Energy Agency’s (IEA) Global Methane Tracker.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/10/i…

    • So me using a miserable paper straw and driving a Tesla isn't going to solve climate change, then?ETM
    • agree, fucking paper straws are going to be the death of me. lol_niko
    • and BTW driving a Tesla is the new driving a hummer._niko
    • just for supporting shit for brains and the sheer douchery of it_niko
    • idiocracyimbecile
  • PhanLo2

    • Anybody listen to Jon Stewart's interview with Hillary Clinton? "Morally reprehensible" is a phrase that should be used much more often.MondoMorphic
  • georgesIII-1

    it went from global warming to climate change and you still don't see the word play,
    but if we were to point a finger, I know one country that isn't doing anything to curb his consumption

  • inteliboy1

    A TVC job I did this year for a "green energy" company.... Client super concerned about backlash from ex-employees of their decommissioned coal mine and coal power plant. Really worried. And it was headline news, huge fucking deal that workers lost their coal jobs, the Murdoch climate-denying vitriolic machine in full effect.

    So I looked it up, what this client was so worried about... it was 18 workers who still had yet to be retrained and given new jobs. 18 people.

    Meanwhile post-covid Elon, Bezos and all manner of asshole CEO's in other industries fire 1000's of employees left right and centre and no one gives a shit.

    • Yeah, but those are 'real man' jobs. Where they'll die of a lung disease in their 50's broken and unable to breathe like legends.
      Not some sissy at a desk.
      PhanLo
  • Ianbolton2

    Is this still relevant?

    • Is showering still relevant?Chimp
    • If we completely clean up the planet, we'll never get dirty, right?Ianbolton
    • i could probably get behind capitalist individual usage arguments if industrial energy/ water usage was reflected in the price of a productkingsteven
    • I feel as though the supply/demand argument is always relevant. The more we switch to renewables, the more it becomes economically viableIanbolton
    • So we are making substantial progress. But the Just Stop Oil movement seems daft. We can't Just Stop it, at the click of our fingers.Ianbolton
    • if corporations were taxed by the gallon, the idea of individual access to water as a human right would be a no brainerkingsteven
    • oil is a finite resource, and the two go hand in hand ie. cotton production = shit ton of water, polyester = shit ton of oilkingsteven
    • i'm 100% behind the idea of Just Stop Oil, but 100% agree they're a bunch of twats.kingsteven
    • oh, btw. the just stop oil campaign is to persuade govt's to stop licensing new oil projects, not 'just stopping oil production' that would be daftkingsteven
    • ah, right. That messaging wasn't obvious - but yeah I am totally behind the campaign as a whole - but the way they're going about it is ridiculous.Ianbolton
    • I think change has to come both from the top and bottom but things would happen a lot quicker if it were from the top.Chimp
    • We saw how quickly unprecedented things could happen from the top down when Covid hit.Chimp
    • i think that vague messaging is deliberate, if they were 'just stop fracking' their actions could be harmful to the real indication that we need to reel it inkingsteven
    • It's also a good way of shifting blame from corporations on to the people.Chimp
    • it's extremist activism, like far-right politics it just hopefully shifts the perception of what is regarded as centrist / majority opinion.kingsteven
    • soz chimp got in a muddle. was still on about just stop oil there...kingsteven
    • There is a lot of good stuff in that video but I'm not sure what their solution is. Go live in a mud huts again? Perhaps I need to watch it again.Chimp
    • However, personal change instills a conscious mindset in the population that might convert into change on a larger scale.jagara
  • PhanLo1

    F L O L
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    • My NYTimes delivery guy is in his 40s at leastnb
  • grafician-1

    "The global economy must green faster to stave off climate catastrophe, a report warns ahead of UN climate talks in Egypt

    Earth's surface has already warmed 1.2C, enough to unleash a deadly and costly crescendo of storms, floods, droughts and heatwaves"

    - AFP

    • "Most up-to-date national emissions cutting plans put Earth on course to reach up to 2.6C of global warming this century: UN assessment"grafician
  • grafician-2

    #BREAKING Climate pledges still 'nowhere near' enough to limit warming to 1.5C: UN

    • Do you think reducing our carbon emissions to zero is possible, and even if we could it'd stop the planet warming?Ianbolton
    • Not at this point. Just waiting for the inevitable collapse in a few more decades...grafician
  • Nairn8

    The solution really is incredibly simple - just get rid of the 6+ Billion people whose lives are basically entirely the product of the last century or so's hydrocarbon depletion. From expanded settlement catchment areas to nitrogen fixation and farming efficiencies, fossil fuels directly correlate to massive population increases.

    It's very simple. A cull is in order.

    Everyone other than me and my own though.

    • old mother gaia is working on this alreadyhans_glib
    • Cruise ships
      - Bill Burr
      palimpsest
    • I'm happy to go back to 1700's lifestyle of riding a horse, work from home - as a black smith or cooper, etc. Occasional sail-ship trip to some exotic land.shapesalad
    • Fucking sheep.palimpsest
    • BaaaaaaaahContinuity
    • Riding a horse, you say? PonyBoy, you in for a career change as shape's conveyance?Continuity
    • You should check out this guy hitler he also felt a cull was in ordernb
    • If climate activism convinces the majority that the solution is to reduce humanity, we are in for a doozy of a holocaustnb
    • Isn't a holocaust what we're fearing? We would just be beating mother nature to the punch.palimpsest
    • @Nairn You'd like the plot of the UK version of UtopiaChimp
    • @Chimp, yes, it's a 'favourite'. This shit's been banging around my head as a mental management for the scale of the problem, since my mid-twenties.Nairn
    • #ThanosWasRightdee-dubs
    • I've seen so fucking many people and articles about why overpopultion isn't the problem. Musk is a HUGE advocate of this.Projectile
    • It's so obviously pushed by people that benefit from having more people under them to power their car batteryProjectile
    • Just stop accepting things you buy being wrapped in so much plastic.microkorg
    • wait, there is a gentler but more effective overpopulation killer called EDUCATION. Countries with a high level of education have far fewer children. Effective!api
    • Musk’s problem can be easily solved by relaxing immigration requirements but he can’t advocate for that.nb
    • You have to be careful with mass immigration as it’s not working out too well in Sweden.Chimp
    • I think Pol Pot had a similar idea. We should check in with him and see how that worked out.monNom
    • You get the first ride, Continuity. <3
      *whinnies
      The rest of you can 'hoof' it. GEt it??! GET IT?!!
      PonyBoy
    • No one said “mass migration”. Yes you have to be careful. America’s immigration system is ridiculous today. We’re letting in more “illegals” than “legals” andnb
    • doubling down on walls and enforcement ?! Lol how’s that working out? Oh, it’s not. Surprise surprise.nb
    • The US needs to slowly, gradually increase intake of educated immigrants from a wide set of cultural backgrounds. Not hard to do, but politicians refusenb
    • The problem with America is that the GOP's gameplan since Reagan was de-education. They have monetarily raped our schools for decades.garbage
    • A dumber populace is easier to rule because they're all a little dim.garbage
    • @garbage https://youtu.be/cPA…Chimp
  • grafician-2

    "After a century of geopolitical tension over access to oil, experts now worry that the global transition to clean energy is creating new dependencies on so-called critical minerals necessary for solar panel and battery production.'

    https://www.rfi.fr/en/business-a…

  • grafician-2

    "#UPDATE China will "actively participate in global governance on climate change," Xi says, promising to "strengthen the clean and efficient use of coal""

    https://www.rfi.fr/en/internatio…

    • The West starting to use nuclear and in the future, while Chyna going back to coal and steam engines...while inhabiting the same planet.grafician
    • We pledge to burn that coal as clean as we cannb
    • China is also developing a commercial version of a molten-salt thorium nuclear reactor. They want to start using and selling it by 2030.uan
    • They are also into solar, wind and water ...which doesn't seem to work to good atm because of low water levels at their rivers.uan
    • Wouldn't trust any nuclear tech coming from Chyna. Ever.

      As for renewables, they don't scale fast enough to cover Chyna needs

      So it's coal all the way
      grafician
    • yes it's what he told. this doesn't mean they are not investing in a better future solution. also China's engineering capabilities are impressive if not nr1 nowuan
    • China, for example, generates around 30% of all global emissions, while the United States is responsible for almost 14%.utopian
    • while China is 18.47% and US 4.25% of world population. so it's a factor of 1.6 vs 3.3. but those numbers mean nothing. should look at where the goods go to.uan
    • ...while inhabiting the same planet.grafician