Go Screw Yourself Apple!
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- cramdesign0
I hate to say it but it is pretty clear that the iPad is going to make it despite not having Flash. The iPad doesn't have to do everything. It just has to do some things really well... and it does.
If I were Adobe, I would publicly call Apple out on the "lazy" bit and flat out ask what it is they want from Flash. Then make it happen. Every iteration of CS is more bloated than the last; that does look a bit lazy in my opinion. Anyone can make software do more with more resources... make it faster and do more with less resources. Adobe is so in need of someone to call them out.
- exador10
adobe bet wrong.
now Steve is looking to put the boot in..
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If I were Steve, I'd most likely be doing the same thing...
;)
- ukit0
^ Interesting.
The story about Apple buying Final Cut makes you wonder...the real "missing link" in this whole strategy is the lack of an IDE for HTML5 and other Flash alternatives upon which Apple's strategy supposedly hinges.
- instrmntl0
adobe should make its own phone. problem solved.
- Seanbot0
It'll be interesting to see if Apple's next iteration of Aperture is a Photoshop clone... their UX is by far superior and would fit in perfectly with the 'studio' family of FCP/DVD Studio/Logic....
- pascii0
fuck you adobe for trashing freehand and no bug fixes in ages.
- comicsans0
Flash is a bloated resource hog. In a mobile environment it has no useful function whatsoever, being merely eye-candy, by and large executed by people who are incapable of seeing the need for lean efficient applications. On constrained environments like phones or the iPad, Flash could compromise performance severely, Flash converted by an Adobe translator would most likely be doubly awful.
This is not against Flash, it is against bad programming which degrades system performance. A wise and sensible move, the perceived payback against Adobe is merely icing on the cake.
- PIZZA0
Are Gaussian Blurs applicable like adjustment layers in photoshop yet?
Has Fireworks been fixed yet?Until that day Adobe are lazy cunts.
- cramdesign0
Flash is a bag of hurt.
- SteveJobs0
i'm starting to change my mind about all of this a little. i don't necessarily believe the decision is a good thing. it's true, this has absolutely nothing to do with performance. but since the decision is not targeted toward adobe's flash technology exclusively, i don't feel as strongly about their closed standards.
for the record, i DO think it's lame that they aren't supporting flash in their mobile browsers - the world shouldn't have to port all their ads/apps/games/etc to html5 - just to support these popular platforms. that's just stupid - but, yes that's apple's decision to make.
having said all that, people spouting nonsense like "Innovate or die, bitches." is just moronic.
- The decision makes a huge amount of sense from a business point of view for Apple, maybe what caught people off guard was the abruptness of itukit
- people off guard was the abruptness of it, a clear slap at Adobeukit
- not making that decion could have been just as lucrative, but it would have required them to play nice with others.SteveJobs
- I think they assume they have very little to gain from opening up their platform to your average C++ illiterate Flash devukit
- that's what they want to you to believe. they'd sell tons more apps if others didn't have to learn a new technology. tons.SteveJobs
- You mean because of new ideas? There are so many apps already, it's kind of a flooded market but I guess you could argue the more people you empower the better.ukit
- argue the more people you empower the better.ukit
- ukit0
http://www.streamingmedia.com/Ar…
Adobe (http://www.adobe.com) announced Thursday it filed a copyright infringement suit against Macromedia (http://www.macromedia.com) over the upcoming release of Flash 5 software.
According to Adobe, Macromedia is copying Adobe's tabbed palette patent for displaying content on the screen. Adobe says that the interface is important in differentiating its products from its competitors.
"We are taking this action now, after notifying Macromedia on several occasions that its products are infringing our patent. The remedy sought is straightforward - we ask them to stop infringing our patents," said Bruce Chizen, Adobe's president. "Adobe will not be the R&D department for its competitors."
http://www.betanews.com/article/…
Amid threats of a lawsuit from Adobe, Microsoft acknowledged Friday that it would remove support for saving files in PDF from Office 2007, as well as dropping its own rival format XPS from the productivity suite and Windows Vista.
The changes follow a breakdown of talks between the two technology giants after Microsoft announced last year it would include native PDF publishing with the release of Office 2007. The feature has long been a top request from customers, the company said at the time, and other office suites have the capability.
- Shaney0
don't get or feel da love for either company. You wanna make an app? code it or have it coded..
- fyoucher10
I'm a Flash guy and I kinda agree with Apple to some extent. There's a lot of Flash dev's pushing the limits of the technology a bit too far (myself included). Which is a good and bad thing at the same time.
I think Apple should lay down some sort of minimum specification requirement for all apps instead of just banning other programming languages.. So, an app that's submitted for approval should meet or exceed a set of minimum performance specs and any other specs, even aesthetic, that would maintain the "Apple standard", whatever that may be.
Agree with SteveJobs (above) about having to create a bunch of different versions of the same thing for different platforms...seems like (the real) Steve Jobs is forgetting that a lot his users aren't just consumers, but creators and developers at the same time...
- dbloc0
This all belongs in the politics thread.
- ETM0
Apple has desired to be in the mind share of the average consumer and not just the creative or elitist types as they had for many years... basically until the iPod came out.
They'll stick to their guns since its better for Joe Sixpack to have the closed, controlled and more reliable system they offer.
Power users and developers may dislike it, but the flock of average sheep consumers is a far larger demographic and ultimately the developers have to follow the market, regardless.
- ukit0
As demonstrated above, all companies pull this shit. The only thing remarkable about this flare up is the abrupt timing of it, it was an unusually "flashy" (*rimshot) way for Apple to announce the policy.
If Adobe had quietly announced a year ago that weren't going to allow third party development tools, no one would have given a shit about it.