Vista and OSX
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- ok_not_ok0
Windows 7 like Vista will fizzle like a bad fart.
- Elezabet0
are you from Microsoft ?
- erikjonsson0
i guess its a matter of habit.
the placement of the most commonly pressed key combos for me for example.using ctrl+c/v/b/h and shift-f/t/g with left little finger - point finger.
alt tab with what on mac is command key.
combos using alt/command key is put on top left of the qwerty so you use left thumb on alt and left pointer. this is all good stretches and no fingers get bent under the hand or eachother.however. when whats usually bound to the alt/command key is moved to the option key one key to the left. i find my thumb constantly being stretched under the palm of my hand for example.
to me that would be a bad thing, and especially placing a commonly used key in between two others. rather than having them to the far left of the keyboard and next to the space bar for good spacing and ergonomics.
Like someone stated further back in this post, this is stuff you probably would not notice unless you spend time with both setups. Nor is it something you suffer from if you never had to change. Again this is no bashing im just trying to get around my issues
- clearification: second part of second paragraph is about the mac placements.erikjonsson
- Mac users use their thumbs on the command key.monospaced
- kelpie0
I work on both OS, I'm currently tearing my hair out at Vista hanging on me just because I want to open folders and other such massively complex things. I've always found OSX a smoother and more comfortable OS personally, though as raf said, until the latest version there were glaring omissions in functionality. I find the key layout better overall too for the kind of 3/4 key combinations I have to do all the time on it too.
For a personal machine I'd still buy an XP running high spec PC over a mac, but Vista is seriously testing my patience and I'm considering shelling out the extra 50% on cost, just so I can use OSX instead! different strokes for different folks I suppose, hope you get used to it.
- Elezabet0
Vista troubles me always
- SteveJobs0
my two cents.
first off, let me preface this by saying i was laughing my ass off reading about your troubles. mostly because this was my exact experience when i first started using the mac.
another thing to note. i use both. i will never prefer one over the other overall, but only for certain small tasks.
basically it took me about a week to set up my mac like the pc i'd been using for the last 15 years.
i'm not going to go into the details. just have faith, it can be done. you can change your home/end keys, make the control key act like the command key, etc.
one thing i will recommend is getting a microsoft mouse. microsoft has some 'drivers' you can install on the mac and it does away with that acceleration bullshit.
over the next few months you'll become accustomed to the mac, and you'll have several more bittersweet experiences where one minute you'll understand why everyone switches, and the next you'll feel sorry for the dumb fucks out there who swear by the mac thinking it really is the end-all-be-all.
in the end, you'll have releived yourself from having to contribute to any mac vs. pc thread again, because you'll realize - in that debate, there's never room for more than 1 side.
good luck
and to the rest of you fuckers who think your platform is better than the others: we don't fucking care.
- SteveJobs0
oh, and one more thing.
do not use vista. even bill gates admitted it's a shit OS. stick with XP.
- wristtattoo0
Right Steve. It's not about what the Mac can do for you, it's what you can do for it.
- roskobosko0
You used windows so much, that u cant adapt to something different that is just better in other way :) The whole idea of Os X is different. Thats why macs are different from pc's :)
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- erikjonsson0
if microsoft would just put out an intellimouse explorer 3.0 with bluetooth rather than a bitching usb reciever hoggin a spot
- erikjonsson0
haha jeesus. today photoshop has crashed wich truthfully hasnt happened to me in about 2 years of vista. and the whole mac crashed with a gray screen today too. havent seen that shit since winxp. also. when i charge it, not only does it take about 6 hours to fully charge. it makes a buzzing sound in speakers/headphones like it isnt grounded. the buzz goes away when i put my hand on the casing so its defenitly a grounding issue.
i love this piece of crap however. im getting used to draging stuff to the dock and it feels very exotic with stuff crashing again. its a bit like the first time i opened up redhat. beutiful and deadly untrustable =)
- acescence0
user error
- deathboy0
I've been using both OSs for about 6 years now. job/vs/home. I find MS OS better. Faster, crash less, photoshop is far superior working with larger files, all adobe seems to function faster and more reliable. Not too mention all adobe interfaces i like better. The macromedia parts of the adobe package seem to have more glitches, the interfaces are horrible, and they seem to have a lag with every click. Ive found MS OSs have better third party apps, plugins. My systems are usually always equal on hardware. Im still using XP, but have used vista. Vista sp2 was pretty nice. The 64 bit performance was great. My main problems was with GUI design. It seemed to dumb the thing down with user friendly stuff, but a few tweaks and no biggie. Stopped using it because some third party apps i liked didn't support 64 bit yet, so 32bit XP works for now.
Havent used leopard yet, but look forward to its improved file previewer. That is one thing that ive hated about OSX. Apple OS keeps getting more tolerable with every release. Hopefully cs4 and leopard will perform better and close the gap a little more.
- I always thought my mac was faster with windows. You'll love leopard, bear in mind its ugly 3D dock can be customized ;)raf
- Peter0
Can't we all just pretend to like each other?
- fiesta0
Don't use fucking Firefox, lesson learned