i'm in a pickle
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- sigg
hello all, long time lurker here in need of a bit of advice.
i'm currently working with a couple of creative recruiters and the other day one of them sent me an email about a job nearby asking if i were interested, and if so that she'd send them my resume. well i was so she did.
a few hours later the guy from said agency gives me a call. turns out he knew of me about a year and a half ago. i designed an website for one of my cousins who owns her own interior design firm (very small.) that firm worked on this guys house and he really liked their site and asked who did it. she gave him my contact info and he went to my site but realized i was working fulltime, so he never got in contact.
fast forward to the other day and he's like "technically i found you first so i'll be frank (even though his name was NOT frank), i'd like to work outside of the agency that sent you over if at all possible, seeing as how i found you first."
it feels wrong. and if it feels wrong it is wrong. right? i'm interviewing with him today and i really want to tell him that he needs to be the one to tell the agency about it, not me. right?
i guess a short story long, what the hell should i do?
thanks!
- sigg0
^ sorry for the long winded post.
- brandelec0
so he wants to bypass the pimp be cause he peeped your little fine ass long time ago? and you feel bad about it because....?
- CALLES0
I admire your honesty. Hell, I like you, you can come over to my house and fuck my sister.
- pics?TheBlueOne
- i'm honest toolocustsloth
- < that was a lielocustsloth
- bahahahahaha! what the hell!?!sigg
- I'm honest some of the time. how about a quick bj?zenmasterfoo
- full metal jacket? that sentence reeks of R. Lee Earmybulletfactory
- bulletfactory is awarded a +2 Sofa. Enabling him to spend a weekend watching the whole Kubrick catalogue.rounce
- just full metal jacket!CALLES
- BaskerviIle0
do as your instinct says, ask him to talk to the recruiter.
If the interview you went to was set up by the recuitment people then it's between them and him.
Stay out of the equation. If he likes you that much then he'll work it out with the agency.
- jgilmore0
Someone wants to offer you a job? thats not a pickle.
- johndiggity0
in the future, make sure any recruiter you work with asks for your permission before contacting anyone on your behalf. it's a good way to avoid these types of situations.
- she did ask for permission. i had no idea the guy "already knew me" from a while ago. it was coincidence.sigg
- NickInfozure0
- WHYscarabin_net
- "In a pickle" thats why.
I thought it was great!Horp
- Milan0
marry his brother instead
- locustsloth0
Which do you value more? The job he wants you to do or the amount of work the agency gets you. This guy sounds like he wants to reduce his cost any way he can.
If it were me i'd encourage him to go thru the agency. If he declines, charge more than they would, tell them about it, & give them their due (cause, frankly, he probably just REMEMBERED you once the agency brought you up. Otherwise he wouldn't have called the agency). No sense in risking numerous potential jobs for this one, unless you absolutely need it to survive- it's a fulltime job that i REALLY need at the moment. the agency i've worked with minimally.sigg
- TheBlueOne0
So this cousin of yours, with the interior design firm...is she hot?
- dude she's my cousin!!! but yeah, she is. and her partner, a girl she went to school with.... SO FINE.sigg
- a hot lesbian you say?? Hmm I have some interiors in need of decorating. If you know what I mean,TheBlueOne
- *bow chicca chicca wahTheBlueOne
- translation of TBO's post to "i need help manscaping"sputnik2
- Sounds like someones going to get decorated like a plasterer's radio.rounce
- pics?flickster
- e-pill0
perhaps this can work in your favour. or against you.
i can work because you can probably earn more for your work since an agency isnt taking a huge chunk out of your earnings so they can get paid as well. the "Frank" may just be asking for a smaller fee for his time so you can then raise your rates for the gig.
the bad part is you already probably signed a commitment to that agency when you filled out your info upon joining with that creative agency, so i would re-read all the fine prints of what you signed, remember a time sheet thru an agency is considered a contract, and that any work that is thru their organization must be handeled thru them.
this can also blow up in your face if that agency finds out your moonlighted a job thru one of their clients.
just a thought... i would make sure you are in the right to take on said job with "frank" outside of the agencies walls and rights to their client regardless of who found your first, as that guy "Frank" may be doing a double deal under the table, which for you is something that you may not want to be part of.
dont hurt your chances with any agency or client or ever burn a bridge. it will always return to haunt you in the future so be smart and be safe with your career.
good luck!
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- i love you e-pill.zenmasterfoo
- thanks for your insightful comment! i think i'm going to have him tell the agency about it. not me.sigg
- he speaks truthdoesnotexist
- Stylus0
When it actually comes to paying you he'll probably say "Technically I'm a bit of a sly fucker so I'd prefer not to pay you anything if at all possible"
- agentfour0
In this case I'd tell them to speak to the recruiter and dont bypass them. He was obviously quite willing to go through the recruiter and pay their fees originally so he's clearly just trying to cut his costs. If he wants to employ you(which he clearly does because he rang you) he will pay what he needs to. Otherwise it will be someone not ideal for less money.
If you bypass your recruiter behind their back, and they find out, say goodbye to them and their clients. In some cases that may not be a big deal but good recruiters are few and far between, so if they are good at their job and are good to you, be the same to them. If you hadn't gone through the recruiter you wouldn't be getting this offer in the first place.
- gramme0
In the future, don't work with recruiters. They're sharks.
- TheBlueOne0
I wouldn't bypass the recruiter if you plan on using them again.
- sigg0
ok. well thanks for all your help guys and gals. i'm off to get ready for the interview. thanks for helping to take the weight off my shoulders, for some odd reason i really felt awful about the whole thing, but really i guess if he did find me first he should have no problem telling the recruiter that, seeing as how it's totally true.
wish me luck!
(god i need money)
- showpony0
you should really stick with the recruiter. he wouldn't have found you in this context without her. if the creative director faults you for your honesty, then i don't think you'd want to work with them anyway.
*passes sigg 2 pennies
- gramme0
Good Providence to you, friend. Agree 100% with what others say about this being a matter between recruiter and agency. This is not your pickle jar.
- babaganush0
If he's that much of a svengali he would still have contacted you even though you were employed to lay foundations. Agencies exist for people in your circumstance (sharks or not) to bring people together. I think your gut says that is morally right no matter what, and the guy sounds a bit shifty anyway...