i'm in a pickle
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- ********0
Lol, this is a lot easier than people are making it out to be. Take the job, ask for higher than your normal rate, and don't tell the talent scout anything. Make sure that the person at the agency who is hiring you is the one that tells the talent scout about it. That way, it's not your fault or problem. I'm sure being the Boy Scout isn't going to pay your rent.
- ********0
Talent scouting is a racket anyway. Without them, omg, we'd have to read a newspaper or CL to find jobs. Wow, that would be srs hard work.
- ********0
prove that you've worked with him before? hmm but it's a bit late now i guess. maybe just do it all undercover.. that does happen. unless its just a bit of freelance work and the agency get you loads.. in which case yr loyalties should lie with them
- _salisae_0
He didn't find you first, obviously or there'd be no pickle juice. She did the work and located an available candidate for the job. If he'd checked through his bookmarks and contacted the ones he liked he would have a case – but he didn't. She is apparently just very good at finding the right designers for her clients.
- geoffism0
you have two options -
1. If you have never worked with that particular talent scout before, and the agency doesn't have an exclusive with the scout, the maybe try to leverage going direct for more cash. or...
2. Work with the headhunter for the job because its a small world and you don't want it biting you back in the future. Maybe the job will suck and the guy will be a total wanker (maybe he's just using you to get to your cousin) and you will need this scout to find you another job.Just because some pud that works on the inside recognized your work from before, liked it, doesn't mean you should have some type of forged relationship with him. He should have contacted you way back when by saying something like - hey man, if you are ever interested in joining us, contact me. Recognizing your work should be in your favor and help you get the job, not saving the company money.
So, about this hot cousin...
- 7point340
generally if there is a working relationship you can by-pass recruiters.
since there is none, as you've never worked for him, and since the recruiter sent him the resume, you would need to work through the agency. plain and simple.
i would gauge his reaction to that simple truth, but overall doesn't seem like they kind of guy you want to deal with.
- livelikebruce0
You're being put in an awkward situation. Normally an agency or company would let the recruiter know that they already had you on file however you never technically interviewed or spoke with the agency prior to this so it's a tricky situation. You definitely don't want to burn any bridges so I would let the agency know this puts you in a tough spot and you'd feel more comfortable if they worked this out with the the recruiting firm. As mentioned in this thread you should also check any contract you signed with the recruiting firm.
- _salisae_0
he could be testing you!
- ********0
correct me if i'm wrong as i know nothing when it comes to recruiters.... but.... wouldn't it be more beneficial for you monetarily speaking to not go through the agency at all
- _salisae_0
i used to work with these two italian guys and they explained very frankly to me that going around someone to gain business is punishable by death. that basically, it's the worst thing you can do to your business in the long run.
- ********0
well why not just apply directly to the company's you want to work for? or this that not the way to go about it anymore?
- sputnik20
for all these people that say recruiters suck, keep this in mind: most really large companies who need designers do not post on monster or in the paper. i had a running gig w/PBS&J (national engineering firm) updating some sites for them which lasted just over 3 years. i would've never found it w/out aquent, as they went through them exclusively.
so yes it sucks in a way, but when you're in w/a good agency and you get to pay your rent and find nice gigs, you get it.
- by "get it" i mean you get why they're necessarysputnik2
- sputnik20
btw sigg, keep us posted on the outcome!
- ********0
cold calling / emailing? no?
that has always worked for me. granted it's been towards design agencies, not large companies.
- tkmeister0
I have so many bad experiences with recruiters and usually don't trust them. So I go extra miles to avoid them.
I was in a similar situation once and the client told the recruiter that he already got my contact/resume info before they sent me there. So the recruiter backed off.
I wouldn't want to be the one telling the recruiter though. They will find whatever way to get their commission and usually ends up ugly. It can lead to your recruiter sending another candidate to the job you interviewed for and recommending this new candidate because of whatever the made up reason maybe(they can say you are more interested in another agency or just got booked by...) You get the idea.
Just make sure you don't get sucked into their lies.
- sigg0
thanks again for all the advice!
so I feel much better now. the guy said straight away that he already contacted the recruiter and told him what was going down. (whew)
i used a recruiter in conjuction with my own research to help better my chances of getting a job.
so now the question is, do i contact the recruiter to make sure?!? i really prefer to believe in people, but like it was said above, being the boy scout isn't going to get me a job.
- double check that it's kosher with the recruiter. godspeed7point34
- killerbro0
recruiters are like used cars salesmen. Only worry about yourself if the job is a good fit... take it. Not your problem the guy you are interviewing with is breaking his "contract" with the recruiter.
- killerbro0
Also chances are very good the recruiter is viewing this thread now and has check yer profile :(