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- omgitsacamera0
i dont care your side; but please STOP spamming
"xxx rockets hit israel in the past 24 hours, xxxxx million are now in rocket range. donate your status:"
or
"xxx palestinians died (xxx women and children) donate you status"
on my facebook news feed. please, i already get enough bad and depressing news outside of facebook.
- dconstrukt0
first you don't know half the story.... who the fuck trains their kids in hate, how to burn flags, kill people, etc. you should see the picts.
but bottom line is killing people isn't solving anything for anyone on both sides....
and give back the land?
its not about the land you're missing the point, they want to wipe out ALL jews and the state of israel. they're (hamas) terrorists and have publicly stated these facts.
who the fuck kidnaps innocent people?
who the fuck blows themselves up in the name of god?
the land is nothing.
They had the land before the state of israel.... tell me what did they do with it?
Where were the cities? the infrastructure?
you'd think if they wanted something so badly they'd actually do something with it when they had it.
but going along with your line of thinking...
why doesn't the US give the land back to the american indians? i mean they slaughtered them and stole their land.... didn't they?
- I don't think anyone here is defending Hamas, but what Israel is doing is making themselves look far worse._niko
- of course you are..... show me where you've mentioned them negatively?dconstrukt
- look worse? its war crimes! REAL war crimes! this isn't anti-isreal its amatter of fact kook at the mess they madeKwesiJ
- this stems from radical terrorists launching thousands of mortars and missiles into another country..dconstrukt
- DrBombay0
you are a simple-minded motherfucker.
- I usually wince a bit when you get direct, dobs, but here I totally agreekelpie
- still can't answer the question.... dumbassdconstrukt
- Your questions are fucking retarded. So they didn't develop the land so it gives the Israelis the right to take it?DrBombay
- dude, reading comprehension will get you far in life.... you obviously can't understand what you read. what a schmuckdconstrukt
- explain it to me then... it is about the fucking land but you fail to see it that way.DrBombay
- if it isnt about the land why not change the borders back to '67?DrBombay
- BTW, there were terror attacks before 1967. And the Hammas declared goal is not 1967. It is inhalation of Israel.laurus
- And Christianity, and any other religion that is not Islam along with the people that practice it.laurus
- ukit0
- skser0
- Seems like the first hit ignited something else, weapons cache? Kassam factory?Danglin_Dave
- perfectly civilian gas line maybe?KwesiJ
- big fucking bomb?KwesiJ
- lowimpakt0
Israel and Hamas need to both sign up to the International Criminal court.
There are already calls for Israel to sign up so they can be tried for War Crimes. (proportionality, collective punishment, use of certain weapons). And Hamas need to be brought to book on rockets aimed at occupied areas.
The recent UN human rights resolution needs to have some form of enforcement.
as it concluded its ninth special session which discussed “the grave violations of human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territory including the recent aggression in the occupied Gaza Strip”.
The resolution called for an “immediate cessation of Israeli military attacks throughout the Palestinian Occupied Territory, in particularly in the Occupied Gaza Strip that have resulted, thus far, in the killing of more than 900 and the injury to more than 4000 Palestinians, including a large number of women and children.
It also called for an “end to the launching of the crude rockets against Israeli civilians that resulted in the loss of 4 civilian lives and some injuries.”
- the 4th paragraph down is actually a quote...lowimpakt
- Well, this happens after every war that Israel in involved in. Never mind that the US kills more civilians in one week in Iraq.laurus
- Also you don't really hear the outcry when entire villages are amputated in Africa, or that Over a million murdered in darfourlaurus
- Why? cause Africans don't have oil. Also, the western tradition is that Jews can take anything.laurus
- But they are not aloud to self defend.laurus
- tank020
I kno the story well enough. This a dispute that has driven to the extreme like events at sabra & chatilla. Israel cteated half of this mess by being arrogant, violant, ignorant & disrespectfull. Hamas is to blame for being vengefull & persistant. De un is to blame for being deaf, dumd & blind.
- Iphone typing, sorry...tank02
- pretty good for iphone loldconstrukt
- Only thing is – in Sabra and Shatila it was christian arabs killing Muslim arabs. Israel's fault was turning a blind eye.laurus
- GeorgesII0
I love it when stupid reporters get schooled,
long live george galloway- Go George. I'm a bit ambivalent on him, but love to watch him go :Dkelpie
- not a big fan of george but this is too funnylowimpakt
- George Galloway quote: Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, and your indefatigability [to Saddam Hussein]Cactus
- you're so full of shit cactus, it hurts to even read your bsGeorgesII
- What a cunt. Israel invaded Lebanon in the 80s after years of rockets from the PLO.laurus
- My parents grew up under British occupation in Israel. So I think the Fucking largest empire in history...laurus
- ...should spare their lectures. They are the ones that created this conflict (as well as India/Pakistan)...laurus
- ...with their 'divide and conquer' methods.laurus
- but give it 50 years and Muslims will be a majority in Britain. and then you will be able to experience benevolent rule first hand.laurus
- My grandfather sat in a British prison for smuggling Jews out of Nazi rule during WWII. So seems the British sentiment about the rights of jews...laurus
- rights of jews to live.. haven't changed much.laurus
- bliznutty0
More than 1,000 Palestinians have been killed and nearly 5,000 wounded in the Gaza operation, Palestinian officials said Wednesday.
Israel said Wednesday 10 of its soldiers and three civilians have been killed and more than 100 soldiers have been wounded.
those poor israelis - boo fucking hoo
- the first five soldiers at least were 'friendly fire' accidents i heard reported...not even hamas. go figureKwesiJ
- How many Americans got killed in the bombing of Iraq, Hiroshima or Dresden?laurus
- How many french died in the French aided massacre in Africa just now?laurus
- How many people got killed because of one fucking caricature in a danish newspaper?laurus
- The numbers don't tell the story. The Hammas has a declared disregard to lives, Palestinian lives.laurus
- monkeyshine0
This thread perfectly illustrates the emotional complexity of this crisis. So much anger and accusation. My partner is Jewish and we can't even talk about this without having a screaming match.
- this is true. people are dying. emotions are high.lowimpakt
- ********0
it's OBVIOUS there are no real sides. this is GENOCIDE. both sides are are supplied with weapons. the agenda is mass death.
- You are belittling what genocide is. It is definitely bad, even terrible. but it is less than 1/100 of Iraq or 1/10000 of Darfour.laurus
- brandelec0
"Young men make wars, and the virtues of war are the virtues of young men: courage, and hope for the future. Then old men make the peace, and the vices of peace are the vices of old men: mistrust and caution."
- Cactus0
- peaceful folk indeedzenmasterfoo
- that is a very tame march/protest for UK standardslowimpakt
- why dont brit police have something more than a stick??********
- protest is an active expression of democracy.lowimpakt
- ukit0
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) _ Israel shelled the United Nations headquarters in the Gaza Strip on Thursday, engulfing the compound and the main warehouse in fire and destroying thousands of pounds of food and humanitarian supplies intended for Palestinian refugees.
- "It looks like phosphorus, it smells like phosphorus and it's burning like phosphorus," Ging said. "That's why I'm calling it phosphorus."TheBlueOne
- ...phosphorus."TheBlueOne
- GeorgesII0
cactus, welcome back
i'll point to
and this http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl…
now we know the IDF is shooting at civilians and that Israel started it,
just like fuckn Georgia vs Russia, the propaganda machine is on full speed, but at least less and less people are buying into it- the sheer arrogance of this woman is scary...tank02
- Killer
Privat - very effective anti-Israel propaganda.THA
- Israel is obviously losing the media-war now.THA
- while i'm not going to pick a side...THA
- i'm guaranteeing u that one can make a video that convincingly shows the other side of the coin too.THA
- it's all propogandaTHA
- bullshit. livni takes responsibility for the governements actions, a behaviour every european leader should take example offDanglin_Dave
- the violent lashes around 4 minutes are terrible acts of individual soldiers who are being brought for trial for what they didDanglin_Dave
- GeorgesII0
and lets not forget white phosphorus, used in one of a densest populated area of the world
at least the IDF is getting caught in his own lies
- lowimpakt0
That woman above is "Tzipi Livni" the foreign minister of Israel - acting prime minister. She used to work for Mossad.
the potential future leader of Israel swanning her wings before the upcoming elections in February.
- mossad member... do your homework (at wiki for example)Danglin_Dave
- TheBlueOne0
You know, this is always a difficult topic for me. I try to understand on empathetic and real politik levels the issues and emotions of both sides. It's not hard to find ample justifications on both sides for their actions based on history, recent and older.
And while I have some serious issues with the Palestinian cause and how it's portrayed and used by the Arab world in general and with the Palestianians themselves to prop up questionable authorities, Israel is the one with the organized state and army and no compunctions to use it.
Speaking selfishly, as an American citizen, I am sick and tired of tying so much of American foreign policy to Israel. Perhaps at some point during the Cold War, Israel represented something of a vital national interest to us, however those days are past. I am not a fan of my nation using the Israeli military as a testing ground for our weapon systems, especially when it creates such furor among that part of the world were we derive our national energy sources from. US energy - vital US interest. Friendship with Israel, nice, but not a vital interest in my view. The candle of Israeli friendship is not worth the game anymore.
Of course, this type of opinion can not be expressed "publically" in the US. The media is biased against it. Especially living in NYC, this is something you dare not express in conversation. But you can say "Wow, those crazy arabs..." and no one will bat an eyelash.
No matter what side of the debate you are on, at least in the US, it's well past the time where we must stop fearing a true and open debate about this in the public square, but still that's not "allowed"....
- erikjonsson0
you any criticism against Israel is shot down as anti semitism
- i am israeli and i have critizm against israel... does that make me an anti semite too?!********
- i have more critizm against muslims in the middle east though, thier anger is death 2 all********
- "death to all" with what army? Israel has the 1st world weapons...TheBlueOne
- this war has raged longer than all of us... weapons can be plain and simple its called HATE!!********
- don't you understand that the 'death to all' type of Arab is an ignorant STEREOTYPE! really I expect better from educated people.KwesiJ
- Oh did I fail to mention I am half Iraqi so your post about ignorance means nothingepill
- i am looking at this conflict from a side you most likely are not. so who is ignorant here?********
- i lived thru hearing both sides my whole life both from muslim and jewish from my own family.********
- so its not that i say something stereotypical, i say it from the understanding of the truth.********
- 'muslims want death to all'... please spare this BS.KwesiJ
- the opinions here are all good. each to their own. but for most its just fueled by media.********
- i dont see a lot of the opinions forming from most who can actually back up their sentiments.********
- but each to their own.
end hate!! and we as a race of people can survive...******** - please attempt to back up your 'muslims want death to all' commentKwesiJ
- i hope that personal perspective is not a justification for ANY violence or destruction on either side...is it?KwesiJ
- are you muslim, did offend you?
sorry, lets end the hate.
we can be friends. forever!!******** - didnt mean any offense...
the israelis are also very much at fault... i side with neither.******** - i don't hate you stupidKwesiJ
- well thanks... that is the start of a good beginning although calling me stupid doesnt help...********
- but ill take it!!
friends for life!!
:)******** - haha peace :]KwesiJ
- Well, much of the criticism goes against Israel's right to exist. Call it whatever you like – that is something...laurus
- ...that as someone whose parents and children were born in Israel, I cannot accept.laurus
- So criticizing the actions – that's something that even many Israelis do.laurus
- But people who deny Israel's right to exist – as far as I'm concerned, they are antu-semites.laurus
- i am israeli and i have critizm against israel... does that make me an anti semite too?!