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- lowimpakt0
criticise everyone that kills children, violates human rights, supports military aggression
hamas, IDF, that bitch Livni, US, UK, me, you.
My taxes fund wars. I carry blame.
- BattleAxe0
plain and simply I am appalled that not one single American Politician is standing up to condemn this escalation , at this point the value of human life should have raised above political motives. The finger pointing will always be there but dam over 400 Women and Children and no American Politician is saying a muthaphuking thing? Or did I miss it?
- See signatures at bottom:
http://www.cmep.org/…TheBlueOne - Not exactly up to this week current, but it's something...TheBlueOne
- ah good ol KucinichBattleAxe
- See signatures at bottom:
- bliznutty0
ISREALI LOGIC APPLIED
situation:
A 911 call comes in - another school shooter is on a campus going nuts. Call in an F-14 and bomb the school. Done.- agreedbigtrick
- though you misspelled "Israeli"bigtrick
- finally an accurate analogyKwesiJ
- accurately stupidadded_valium
- TheBlueOne0
"Israel said Friday it was close to winding up its offensive against Hamas..."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_is…
Huh. So I see. Interesting timing. You know if I was a blind, naive person I wouldn't suspect Israel of trying to squeeze this whole thing in between the Presidential transistion period here in the US.
Once, again, I feel like Israel uses the USA. I feel like a dirty whore. I don't want to be Israel's whore anymore.
- Israel had been thinking about withdrawing because Gold went down, but today it's up $40 bucks, so it will continure...robotron3k
- keiTai0
let's bomb all UN buildings and say "oops, we'll investigate it. we didn't mean too".
- TheBlueOne0
this is madness, some days i hate being human...
- lowimpakt0
Tom Waits - Road to peace
Young Abdel Mahdi (Shahmay) was only 18 years old,
He was the youngest of nine children, never spent a night away from home.
And his mother held his photograph, opening the New York Times
To see the killing has intensified along the road to peaceThere was a tall, thin boy with a whispy moustache disguised as an orthodox Jew
On a crowded bus in Jerusalem, some had survived World War Two
And the thunderous explosion blew out windows 200 yards away
With more retribution and seventeen dead along the road to peaceNow at King George Ave and Jaffa Road passengers boarded bus 14a
In the aisle next to the driver Abdel Mahdi (Shahmay)
And the last thing that he said on earth is "God is great and God is good"
And he blew them all to kingdom come upon the road to peaceNow in response to this another kiss of death was visited upon
Yasser Taha, Israel says is an Hamas senior militant
And Israel sent four choppers in, flames engulfed, tears wide open
And it killed his wife and his three year old child leaving only blackened skeletonsIt's found his toddlers bottle and a pair of small shoes and they waved them in front of the cameras
But Israel says they did not know that his wife and child were in the car
There are roadblocks everywhere and only suffering on TV
Neither side will ever give up their smallest right along the road to peaceIsrael launched it's latest campaign against Hamas on Tuesday
Two days later Hamas shot back and killed five Israeli soldiers
So thousands dead and wounded on both sides most of them middle eastern civilians
They fill the children full of hate to fight an old man's war and die upon the road to peace"And this is our land we will fight with all our force" say the Palastinians and the Jews
Each side will cut off the hand of anyone who tries to stop the resistance
If the right eye offends thee then you must pluck it out
And Mahmoud Abbas said Sharon had been lost out along the road to peaceOnce Kissinger said "we have no friends, America only has interests"
Now our president wants to be seen as a hero and he's hungry for re-election
But Bush is reluctant to risk his future in the fear of his political failures
So he plays chess at his desk and poses for the press 10,000 miles from the road to peaceIn the video that they found at the home of Abdel Mahdi (Shahmay)
He held a Kalashnikov rifle and he spoke with a voice like a boy
He was an excellent student, he studied so hard, it was as if he had a future
He told his mother that he had a test that day out along the road to peaceThe fundamentalist killing on both sides is standing in the path of peace
But tell me why are we arming the Israeli army with guns and tanks and bullets?
And if God is great and God is good why can't he change the hearts of men?
Well maybe God himself is lost and needs help
Maybe God himself he needs all of our help
Maybe God himself is lost and needs help
He's out upon the road to peaceWell maybe God himself is lost and needs help
Maybe God himself he needs all of our help
And he's lost upon the road to peace
And he's lost upon the road to peace
Out upon the road to peace.
- lowimpakt0
Tom Waits - Road to peace
Young Abdel Mahdi (Shahmay) was only 18 years old,
He was the youngest of nine children, never spent a night away from home.
And his mother held his photograph, opening the New York Times
To see the killing has intensified along the road to peaceThere was a tall, thin boy with a whispy moustache disguised as an orthodox Jew
On a crowded bus in Jerusalem, some had survived World War Two
And the thunderous explosion blew out windows 200 yards away
With more retribution and seventeen dead along the road to peaceNow at King George Ave and Jaffa Road passengers boarded bus 14a
In the aisle next to the driver Abdel Mahdi (Shahmay)
And the last thing that he said on earth is "God is great and God is good"
And he blew them all to kingdom come upon the road to peaceNow in response to this another kiss of death was visited upon
Yasser Taha, Israel says is an Hamas senior militant
And Israel sent four choppers in, flames engulfed, tears wide open
And it killed his wife and his three year old child leaving only blackened skeletonsIt's found his toddlers bottle and a pair of small shoes and they waved them in front of the cameras
But Israel says they did not know that his wife and child were in the car
There are roadblocks everywhere and only suffering on TV
Neither side will ever give up their smallest right along the road to peaceIsrael launched it's latest campaign against Hamas on Tuesday
Two days later Hamas shot back and killed five Israeli soldiers
So thousands dead and wounded on both sides most of them middle eastern civilians
They fill the children full of hate to fight an old man's war and die upon the road to peace"And this is our land we will fight with all our force" say the Palastinians and the Jews
Each side will cut off the hand of anyone who tries to stop the resistance
If the right eye offends thee then you must pluck it out
And Mahmoud Abbas said Sharon had been lost out along the road to peaceOnce Kissinger said "we have no friends, America only has interests"
Now our president wants to be seen as a hero and he's hungry for re-election
But Bush is reluctant to risk his future in the fear of his political failures
So he plays chess at his desk and poses for the press 10,000 miles from the road to peaceIn the video that they found at the home of Abdel Mahdi (Shahmay)
He held a Kalashnikov rifle and he spoke with a voice like a boy
He was an excellent student, he studied so hard, it was as if he had a future
He told his mother that he had a test that day out along the road to peaceThe fundamentalist killing on both sides is standing in the path of peace
But tell me why are we arming the Israeli army with guns and tanks and bullets?
And if God is great and God is good why can't he change the hearts of men?
Well maybe God himself is lost and needs help
Maybe God himself he needs all of our help
Maybe God himself is lost and needs help
He's out upon the road to peaceWell maybe God himself is lost and needs help
Maybe God himself he needs all of our help
And he's lost upon the road to peace
And he's lost upon the road to peace
Out upon the road to peace.
- GeorgesII0
this is great, i'm downloading it right now. . .
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- laurus0
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- laurus0
- good post, this is why mainstream media needs to go.********
- good post, this is why mainstream media needs to go.
- lowimpakt0
we were having a (drunken) chat last night about political/state existentialism and how the response of states to resistance movements can be a dependant variable for analysing socio-cultural-historical mechanics of the state.
the starting point was that most resistance movements originate as a response to collective state action. i.e. the IRA only existed because of British occupation of Ireland and organisations like Hamas/Hezbollah only exist because of Israeli occupations. (in fact Israel supported Hamas initially because they weren't keen on Arafat) - and the violent response to collective state action can lead to crisis of confidence/existence.....
Mapping how different states respond to the resistance movements by analysing those responses through a state-existentialist framework would be interesting.
there is a PhD in there for someone....
- What rubbish. And your incomprehensible language doesn't help much. Are you still drunk?Cactus
- do you need me to translate?lowimpakt
- Yeah please, sans deconstructionist jargon.Cactus
- can you compare state responses to resistance movements that come about because of their own actions.lowimpakt
- and what are the characteristics on which you make the comparison.lowimpakt
- It most certainly depends on how you define resistance and it's eventual goal:. A nation-state or a pan nationalist struggle.Cactus
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- Khurram0
i don't think you can divorce state action from the particularities of this conflict. imposing a Jewish state in a land that has been dominated by Muslims for 1400 years.
it's the uncompromising nature of the religious element of this conflict that gives it the particular nature. A belief in the God given right for an ethnically superior Jewish state, couched in biblical terms. A Judaeo-Jihad if you will.
The threat is not a threat to any perceived "nationalism", though that plays a part. But it's a threat to a messianic project, that traces Jewish history from Moses, to expulsion by the Romans, to the Holocaust. it's a culmination of a narrative arch that needs to be fulfilled.
For you see, nationalisms are able to absorb other ethnicties, but here they are not fighting so much for the state. But for the "Jewish character" of that state.
- lowimpakt0
i agree but I think the idea was to build a frame on all those factors (dependant variables) including religion as a way to compare state responses to resistance not necessarily as a way to explain origins/solutions to conflict....
