The Economy and Our Jobs
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- Khurram0
I'm putting all my money into CitiBank...
- kelpie0
I put all mine into a franchise string of cobblers earlier in the year for a laugh. Fucking delighted, like
- Khurram0
I'm putting all my money into turkeys. Stocks have been going through the roof. I expect them to plateau around December 26th. That's when i'll sell sell sell!!!
- MarketMaker0
http://www.economist.com/busines…
"Ad-spending usually plunges when economic growth slows."
- Everybody knows this. What is happening now proves it. Marketers tho continue to insist otherwiseKhurram
- Horp0
Most people who are convicted of murder are shown to eat large quantities of peanut butter for breakfast.
- Let's cut out peanut butter spending jut to be safe.MarketMaker
- ETM0
So far I have been very surprised and haven't noticed any of the down turn yet. End of Q3 2008 already had a record year and had the busiest summer in 8 years. Q1 2009 is already scheduled as a big quarter. I fear though, after that, it may slow.
I do think web will do better than print through this though.
- kelpie0
I'm wondering if traditional avenues might be squeezed permanently after this is done with.
- Khurram0
You guys are forgetting that actual companies are going bust and the economy as a whole is shrinking.
That will effect everybody no matter what avenue. But who knows. It's all speculation in't end. if i could predict this shit, i would be way richer than i'm going to be.
- And smaller companies will take their place in time and grow to fill the vacuum.ETM
- Khurram0
Like whole sectors are going to the wall... web can't absorb it all.
- kelpie0
Who's saying it will?
- Khurram0
Just don't be so assured about the web as you seem to be.
Well actually do, makes no difference either way. Destiny is not in your hands.
- ooh the existentialist angst!!Khurram
- you and I are clearly in different conversations herekelpie
- clearly.Khurram
- as we continue to reply to each other...Khurram
- what?kelpie
- nothing. we're still talking. That's awesome! Time to clock-off.Khurram
- any plans for the night?Khurram
- pardon?kelpie
- ;D plans for tonight:
walk home, eat noodles, try to find money for tabskelpie - There you see... STOP FUCKING SMOKING YOU BOURGEOISE PIG!Horp
- I've been waiting for an opportunity to retort.Horp
- Cool. I'm off to hit the gym. Lates!!!! xxxxxxxKhurram
- AND STOP EATING NOODLES, YOU.... erm... MAOIST DOG!Horp
- ok, really I'll probably eat sausages and beans, or maybe pastakelpie
- Pah, you, erm, errr, you... you pork eating trotskyist!!!!
ok, nevermind.Horp
- livelikebruce0
I've been optimistic so far about how all of this will eventually pan out and what it will mean for our industry and others. I think when you have a big shake-up you also have opportunity that comes with that. That doesn't mean there won't be some tough times ahead for many people. What makes me most nervous about this whole situation is that many of the people at the top (e.g. CEO and Board of Dir. types) who know much more about financial systems than most (including myself) are "bracing for impact." They seem to know something that a lot of others haven't yet realized. Here's something interesting if you haven't seen this - a VC firm's presentation was leaked after they called in all of the CEO's of the companies they are funding to lay it on the line...
- ETM0
Anyone who just assumes they have no control at all in these times are doomed to fail. Times like this are the best for innovation as people and companies fight to succeed. Success often breeds laziness. Also this is when customer service and loyalty will become key.
Be proactive about it. I have already opened dialogues with clients about best ways to use their resources as things become tight. It keeps my company in mind and confirms that I am also looking out for them, not just myself. I am busy now, but that can change in a flash and I am making plans to remain important and worth client dollars.
Employees working for other companies/agencies need to do similar things. Work the extra hours, deliver solid work but demonstrate other skills and display your depth be it project management, etc. Also, speak to superiors and let them know that you want to be the employee that give a little extra and stick with them through this. You might be surprised how that can play into the minds of some managers when they have to make an arbitrary choice between employee A and B when much else is equal.
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I think your first point is precisely why bailout plans are a horrible idea as well.designbot
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- nocomply0
I work for a very small design studio and also for myself.
Most of the clients I work with are small business/practice owners and I have not noticed things slowing down at all. In fact, this summer was probably the busiest I've ever been.
I'm not sure if this is being ignorant or not, but for the time being I am not worried about the economy slowing down my work.
It seems to me that this stuff has a much greater effect on large companies that it does on individuals and small businesses.
- mimeartist_com0
I'm pretty much working solely by myself, and in collab with some design studios... I reckon in the last month, I've had as many as 10 enquiries about projects... So actually finding I can pick and choose... so don't think it is all bad!
- ukit0
A lot of it is probably just the media going on constantly about how bad things are...once you hear that all day, you will probably think twice about making a business investment, hiring a new employee, buying a new iPod etc etc.
- designbot0
+1 ukit.
F*cking media and speculators can piss off. I think they are making it much worse then it has to be. Everyone should go watch some news reports from pre-Y2K for perspective.