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BonSeff...keep crying, but dont cry to much, dont waste those little tears, there is plenty of time left. This doosh bag has 3 years left to make a shit load more mistakes for you to defend and cry about!!!!!
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! i voted for clown shoes!!!!!!WAAAAAA
- TheBlueOne0
@cnaps
First this is merely a propsed bill. It isn't a law yet.
Second, this has nothing to do with Obama, but the Senate. You're Obama derangement is showing.
Third, the democrats are pushing this through normal legislative channels. This is how government works. But you're child who can't grasp that so you whine, misspell "douche bag", and use schoolyard insults. Speaks volumes.
Lastly, Bush pushed shit like this weekly via unprecedented Executive Orders. At least the Dems use the process.
- TheBlueOne0
Look dude, you didn't acknowledge a single point I made but brought up Bush. Why do you guys always live in the past?
Responding to you is a waste of breath, so you're off the radar.
- TheBlueOne0
The Third World-ization of America proceeding on pace: California on the Verge of Collapse
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/r…
Jobs, capital shipped out of US, goes into the new corporate oligarchy which also bought all of your news stations.
Welcome to the Future, serfs.
Meanwhile, the Teabaggers look for a witch to burn.
- ********0
Have you guys being following the story of Alvin Green? LOL. Listen to the interview!!! What's going on here?!?
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-s…
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/keith…- he could be a republican "seed" but one can only blame the voters.fooler2
- ukit0
^Keep in mind, this happened in South Carolina.
- ukit0
Sheldon Whitehouse puts the blame for the BP spill on "corporate capture" of regulatory agencies.
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.…
He only kind of alludes to it, but this might be best illustrated by the fact that during the Bush years, the Minerals Management Service employees were literally buying coke from and having sex with oil industry people.
- TheBlueOne0
Sure, it's a Marxist interpretation, which we all know is for pansies or something, but sounds pretty spot on to me:
"the story, which ends for now in the cliffhanger of the first contraction of the world economy since 1945, goes something like this: The so-called Golden Age of postwar capitalism from 1950–70—a time of rising wages, profits, and investment—was the product of special and perishable circumstances. The wartime destruction of the Japanese and German productive base meant that, with the resumption of peace and renewed growth in demand for non-military goods, all the major industrial economies could for a time thrive without threat to one another. But the maturation of European and Japanese industry toward the end of the ’60s spelled the return of mutually destructive competition. Firms producing internationally tradable goods (cars, electronics, et cetera) could only survive by reducing prices, which in turn reduced profitability. And yet the capital sunk in manufacturing plants was enough to make capitalists reluctant to exit a given product line in spite of reduced profitability. Besides, governments don’t like to see big firms fail even when they can’t compete. (The Obama administration has lately proved almost as indulgent of GM as the state-directed Japanese banks have always been of Japanese industry.) And the more recent advent of China as a manufacturing power only exacerbated the situation, as the Chinese (to quote Brenner) “continued to expand capacity faster than it could be scrapped system-wide and to rain down torrents of redundant, increasingly high-tech goods upon the world market.”
Rest of it is here: http://nplusonemag.com/intellect…
- PonyBoy0
Obama and is Chicago Style politics are once again revealed at the very end of this video...
... pretty disgusting... ... yet - pretty normal (which is even more disgusting) - It's literally a Blagojevich maneuver -- not gonna give up a damned thing w/out something in return:
p.s. - feel free to trip out and call Jon Kyle a liar / rightwinger teabagger etc etc... ... whatever helps your conscience.
- TheBlueOne0
I like the way the guys that supported the corrupt ass-backwards Texas style of politics, which has dominated the White House for 20 of the last 29 years, have their panties in a bunch over bare knuckle Chicago style politics that was last truly effective on the national scene in 1968.
- In other words, we dealt with your corrupt assholes, now deal with ours. You don't like it? Tough. Get out of the game.TheBlueOne
- you just justified criminal activityPonyBoy
- Welcome to politics. Same as it ever was.TheBlueOne
- you accept that... ... that's why I don't think we'll ever find a medium ground to discuss thingsPonyBoy
- Difference between acceptance and realization of the terrainTheBlueOne
- ukit0
Yeah being from Chicago, I'm offended at this "Chicago style politics" like Chicago style pizza. I mean sure, there were some corrupt guys who lived in Chicago. Al Capone. That was 70 fucking years ago.
OK, there's also a huge amount of corruption today in IL (not just Chicago) politics. But like no other politician from any other state ever did some bad shit?? His description of how Obama supposedly reacted is exactly how I'd expect any politician to act. Love the "gasp" of horror from the assembled aging teabaggers:D
I mean cmon though seriously, if it was that simple in terms of securing the border, why didn't Bush and the Republicans (including John Kyl and McCain) do it back when they were passing immigration reform? Bush was much closer to Obama to passing a bill, and yet, never heard Kyl talk about it in such wild-eyed terms back then. Why did Bush not secure the mother fucking border and why did Kyl not raise a stink about it back then? Must be some o' that "Arizona style politics."
- PonyBoy0
I'm not surprised that you guys are hung up on 'chicago style'... ... and could care less that your President is holding the security of your fellow American's hostage until he gets something in return... *applause
- What next? You going to dig back to the Harrison Administration?TheBlueOne
- PonyBoy0
^^he's done the same thing though w/the Oil spill in the gulf...
... he could have very well sent militarized support in MANY FORMS but hasn't done shit... ... he's holding out to prove a political point and make political gains... ... nothing more.
Yes - BP should take the brunt of the criticism here - fuck BP...
... all the president has to do is say the fucking word and there could have been LOADS of additional support to protect that shoreline.
Very sad.
- Is this what is on the Rush Limbaugh show today?DrBombay
- 60 days into this...
... what has he done but scrape 20 mill off BP and give a speech about green energy?PonyBoy - 20 Billion. Do you think the US Navy is sitting on a magical machine that can stop the leak?DrBombay
- But he is holding off on using it?DrBombay
- PonyBoy0
ALL... ... for political gain.
What's different from this guy and Bush?... dumb decisions - politically motivated for personal or party gain... ... I see no difference anymore.
Politicians on both sides are disgusting... ... and I don't think I'm going to be able to pay attention anymore - I don't want to be lumped in w/being a 'member' of either side... ... ... sick of it.
- ukit0
Why would he "hold off" on fixing the spill, you really think any political points in terms of embarrassing BP/ oil companies is worth the larger damage from the spill? Even just on a political level?
You are drinking the Fox News Kool Aid, Ponyboy, sorry to say brah
- I haven't had cable for over a year, dude... ... I don't even know what's going on on that networkPonyBoy
- my comments come from ...
... THE LEFT!!! :) I believe I was even quoting Chris Matthews from a transcript I read last nightPonyBoy - Wtf can the military do about an oil leak?DrBombay
- Submarines can't go that low. Do you think they have the magical oil leak capping machine and are holding out on using it?DrBombay
- on using it?DrBombay
- Chris Mathews is "the left"? Jesus if you think that, that explains alot.TheBlueOne
- PonyBoy0
what can the military do??
and... lol@submarines, DrBombidiot... ... if that kind of thought-process was in place... we'd all be screwed...
Just to start - have a look at the Navy website... ... do a bit of research to see where the US Military has aided or lead the clean up w/other spills around the world...
- So the Navy should be doing more than that article said? Like what?DrBombay
- I think they should break out their submarines actuallyPonyBoy
- Seems to me that article is saying the Navy is down in the Gulf region right now.DrBombay
- But you said they should be doing more? I am unsure what your position is one this.DrBombay
- lol... you DIDN'T EVEN KNOW that the military was capable of this - from your note above: 'Wtf can the military do about an oil leak?'PonyBoy
- leak?'
— DrBombay
Then you change the subject to say the military IS helping...PonyBoy - ... WEIRDO!PonyBoy
- Did the navy stop the leak yet?DrBombay
- at least you're not riding the fence here, dobs - in a matter of a few notes you've taken both sides... must be confusing?PonyBoy
- What side? Can the navy stop an oil leak? No.DrBombay
- TheBlueOne0
You think the Navy has submarines to fix oil spills?
Seriously.
You're going with that one.
Wow.