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- PonyBoy0
Dobs... the CNS deal is NOT the only place I have heard or seen the clip... it's been all over conservative programs etc...
... my guess though is that this is the first time you've heard it - in the blog thread... because the lefty shit (fluffington post etc) won't dare touch it as it's reveals the STUPIDITY of this woman.
Again... please explain what she means by 'entrepreneurial bill'. Does she mean it's a bit of 'self investment'??
I don't really need grandma P's 'inspiration' to move me to invest in myself...
... this bill is pure 'cradle to grave' / 'it takes a village' type of horseshit... all we needed was reform so we can all afford it IF WE WANTED IT... instead she's trying to sell her 'forced down your throat... pay a fine if you're not on board' bill by appealing to things that might encourage you to... ... act stupidly??
YOU CAN QUIT YOUR JOB TO PURSUE ART OR MUSIC all because of the AMAZING DEMOCRATS SHITTY HEALTHCARE BILL!! YAYYYY!!
Open your eyes, Rick... ... this woman is throwing a 'magical veil' over the eyes so many foolish young people. This bill CAN NOT work as-is... ... all we needed was reform - not someone to hold my dick for me when I piss.
- 762mm0
I have seen the work you people on this board produce. Maybe you should take advantage of this bill. Because your skills are shit. Toodles.
- PonyBoy0
Do you really think some who quits their job to pursue music / art has enough money to pay taxes to pay for their share of their health care costs??
They'll quit that job... ...no cash coming in... hmmm... *thinking... *carries the 2... ummm...
... gosh - it's probably cuz I'm one of those 'arty' people and I guess I should just leave the math and smart stuff to Bella Pelosi.
- DrBombay0
Pelosi says dumb shit, often. Doesn't mean I agree with anything that story is reporting though. Or that it is anything other than completely biased tripe used to stir up blockhead conservatives.
- PonyBoy0
Pelosi is the SPEAKER OF THE FUCKING HOUSE...
... how about you stop making excuses and just admit she's a fucking loony sack of balls?
How the hell does a dumb bitch like this ever get to this position?
- mathinc0
Who was talking about what the reporter said? When I posted it I wrote 'haha wow.. with this dumb bitch'... I mean, fuck CNS or whatever. We just bit the big one because of people being reckless financially.. and here is the Speaker of the House telling people that this bill will allow them the freedom to do whatever they want, we've got your back. Honestly right now I want politicians telling us we need to focus on the future.. saving our money.. making smart decisions, not 'Hey this bill is all about allowing you to be 18 again!! Go get that tattoo on your ass, chase your dream!'
- DrBombay0
Again. Pelosi says dumb shit. If she was talking to small business owners it would make it different. Anyway you cut it this is a non story to me.
- mathinc0
haha wow.. yeah... um.. speachless.
'Attorney General Eric Holder warned that Arizona's new anti-illegal immigration law could lead to racial profiling and might prompt Latinos to stop cooperating with police. However, it emerged at a House hearing Thursday that Holder hasn't actually read the statute.
"I have not had a chance to. I've glanced at it. I have not read it," Holder acknowledged in response to questions from Rep. Ted Poe (R-Texas).
"It's ten pages. It's a lot shorter than the health care bill, which was 2,000 pages long. I'll give you my copy of it, if you would like to -- to have a copy," Poe quipped during the House Judiciary Committee oversight hearing.'
- Forgot to post the link.. sorry Rick this wasn't from CSN this time.. http://www.politico.…mathinc
- Now the AG can't even read a 10 page bill before politically stating legal constitutional opinions on that bill...mathinc
- This is horse shit. Bush and his fuckwits screwed us, now this new batch of cocksuckers are screwing us again.mathinc
- I'm sure his staff never read it either...DrBombay
- that's a weak cop-out... if you're the dick being Q'd... YOU BETTER KNOW THE CONTENT FFS.PonyBoy
- It's 10 pages dobs.. so his staff should read it and then explain it to the fucking attorney general..mathinc
- I am quite sure he understands it. You are too. Get your emotions out though. Let us know how u feel.DrBombay
- ukit0
Calm down guys...before you hurt yourselves or something.
- BattleAxe0
I just don't have a problem with people quitting and going off on there own , will there be financial casualties , there always is , but i simply had enough of this wage slavery crap 9-5 ! I don't care if I live in a cardboard box, because I have
- PonyBoy0
There's no way this twit (Nancy Legosi) will be voted out next time around though... and Boxer isn't going anywhere either
- ukit0
Why are conservatives so obsessed either
1) You didn't read the bill
2) The bill is too long - it's like 200 million pages
And then screaming about it like you uncovered Watergate or something.
I might be going out on a limb here but I don't really think this is the main issue in Washington, people reading or not reading bills.
- PonyBoy0
it's funny... I get into arguments w/lefties sometimes - and they often will say something snide like...
..."You know why I know what I know and how i know what I know is right?... because I READ."
It's the leftist argument (as old as time)... ... yet when you get BUSTED for NOT reading... ... I guess it doesn't matter.
- And you're a self-described "independent". Grow some nuts and claim GOP.DrBombay
- huh? did you just switch topics again?... too much truth overwhelming you today?PonyBoy
- Did you read the bill? Why are "you" throwing around all these "yous" when talking about Holder?DrBombay
- i read the AZ bill for surePonyBoy
- good for "you", the fake outrage is palpable in here!DrBombay
- ukit0
OK, so Holder didn't personally pore over the fine print of the bill...who cares? What part of the issue do you think he doesn't understand?
You might disagree with him, but he's not going to change his mind because of Line 12 in Clause C.152 of the fucking bill. What do you think the Republican party is anyway, Oprah's book club? You think they sit around all day reading bills?
- Funny they think he doesn't understand it... Why else would they be upset that he didn't read it?DrBombay
- mathinc0
'I might be going out on a limb here but I don't really think this is the main issue in Washington, people reading or not reading bills.'
Oh for fucks sake are you serious? What's the main issue in Washington then? Let me go out on a limb here and say that the problem in Washington is that ALL (right and left) these idiots aren't serving their public. Not reading a bill is HUGE ukit.. and this one in question is 10 pages. If it was you're going to comment on the constitutionality of a bill, and you're the Attorney General, it's 10 pages. I can kind of understand not fully knowing what's in a 2,000 page bill.. and even that is hard for me to swallow.. but this is 10 pages. How well do you think we're being served? This whole thing has devolved into a finger pointing, no matter what the other guy is wrong mentality.. and it's bullshit. What happens in this thread is the exact same thing that's happening in Washington.. and in the end we're fucked.
If you guys can't even concede that even if you agree with what Eric Holder is saying, that at the very least, the very very least... he should have grabbed the bill and taken it with him when he had to take a shit.
'Why are conservatives so obsessed either
1) You didn't read the bill'
Why are you NOT concerned with people voting on things they don't know anything about? Ukit, for lunch today, do you want to eat what's in this bag here? Yes? Okay here is the dog shit I scooped this morning, it's all yours. Get it? You shouldn't be able to vote on things you don't even slightly understand.
- Holder isn't in the legislature. He doesn't vote on bills.DrBombay
- Your ignorance shines through daily around here, Love ya Tommy!DrBombay
- What's your point? He's the AG, commenting on a bill, he hasn't even read and it's 10 pages. Are you really sure you want tomathinc
- side with that?mathinc
- I am sure he didn't have a 10-hour meeting about it beforehand.DrBombay
- Did I say HE was voting on the bill? Honestly man if you can't even concede that he should have read it, I have nothing else.mathinc
- So you're saying that he probably had a 10 hour meeting but didn't have the time to read it?mathinc
- it's a dance, tommy... you make a point... and dobs changes the subject -- and dob's is a lovely dancer.PonyBoy
- It's 10 pages Rick. That might be a struggle for some of our senators, but this guy is a lawyer. He basically reads for a living...mathinc
- Man you have a hard on for the fact that he hasn't read it word for word.DrBombay
- Do you think he doesn't understand it? Honestly?DrBombay
- He is isn't he? I just can't believe none of these guys want's to concede to this.. amazing.mathinc
- He didn't understand it .. did you read the article?mathinc
- RICK - HOlders comments on the bill PROVE he doesn't understand it.PonyBoy
- So you think he doesn't understand it. Probably one of the best lawyers in the World.DrBombay
- Why would you say he's one of the best? Do you have his resume in front of you?... have you studied him?PonyBoy
- or is it because you've 'heard' he's one of the best via shittington post or the like?PonyBoy
- Obama appointed him, he must be the bestest lawyer ever!!!mathinc
- .. who can't read 10 pages.mathinc
- This conversation stops here. You guys are fucking morons if you think you have a better grasp on that bill than he does.DrBombay
- No, you're just stuck. We're idiots because the AG can't read 10 pages? Do you see how misguided you are?mathinc
- Yeah but I have one thing up on Holder, Rick.. I actually read all 10 pages. It was a battle.. me vs 10 pages but I did it!! Weee.mathinc
- Stuck? You people are fighting against the fact he hadnt read 10 pages but probably had a 10 hour meeting about it.DrBombay
- haha is that the fairy baby jesus? 'He probably had a 10 hour meeting on it'.. but didn't read it.. honestly that makes nomathinc
- fucking sense. Why would he not have time to read it before, during, after your fairytale 10 hour meeting..mathinc
- BattleAxe0
@PB ,
not having a Job for 6 years, probably means you did at one point , now I don't lump people into categories so this is all perspective i lived ,wage slavery simply means being a slave to your own need for income
people will get job locked because they , create a loop by means of consumption driven by all types of factors
IE , the whole credit driven market : very few have the means to purchase 3 of most sought for purchases to advance you socially (house, transportation , education)
so we are told that you need to go to school to get a good job, right off that bat a college grad might be 50k+ in debt , creditors will go after his/her life once they snatch that diploma
so right away the loop beings, get a job to pay off debt , most often people will take anything just to get creditors off their back , that anything sometimes ends up taking up 3-4 years of a persons life because they get caught in the wage slavery cycle and fall victim to the loop of consumption , they get a little bit of money pay down debt but now they might need a car to get to that job , more Debt , so now you need more money , and so on
so what does it all come down too , a Consumer / Debt first market , means people rarely get a chance to be what they really want to be , there will always be exceptions to the rules ,
in the end Pelosis statement , while I could give a rats ass about her, is nothing to get your panties in a bunch , why well you quit your job more than likely you may qualify for the revamped Medicaid , giving you one less thing to worry about (healthcare) in the consumer/debt driven market
if you stay at poverty level for the rest of your life at that point then I am all for cutting benefits after certain timeframes , no one is asking for any hand outs, but you can't knock a person who takes advantage of state driven benefits , people that abuse them well, blame the system not the person
- that loop you speak of can be avoided w/self control... you can eliminate your debt w/a little bit of personal management...PonyBoy
- ... pretty much everything you just said is a cop-out for riding someone elses coattails, dude.PonyBoy
- as for me working on my own - I'm FAR from alone... all you have to do is drive down 'main street' america and you'll see...PonyBoy
- ... all the mom / pop businesses... self / starters etc.
You don't need Pelosi's 'entrepreneurial bill'...PonyBoy - ... to achieve whatever goals you set for yourself.PonyBoy
- so quitting to start your own company and using the help that is already there is a cop out?BattleAxe
- plus you fail to see it should not even come down to starting off with debt,BattleAxe
- mathinc0
Rick - 'Do you think he doesn't understand it? Honestly?'
Here is what Holder said: "I have not had a chance to. I've glanced at it. I have not read it,"
So let me get this straight, you think he understood the bill completely.. but never actually read the bill? It's a 10 page bill.. if it was longer than that I might not be as pissed off. So you think the AG got briefed? So our AG needed to get briefed on a 10 page bill.. he needed cliff notes to a 10 page bill.. are you fucking serious????
- The fake outrage is in the house!DrBombay
- Perhaps he was taken out of context? I see his quote about not reading the bill but a statement on how he felt about the bill and profiling.IRNlun6
- Man you're a real treat Rick. Fake outrage? I'm really pissed actually. This is real outrage. What makes it worse is that justmathinc
- because you have a 'side' in this, you don't have the moral integrity to say 'this is wrong'.mathinc
- ... profiling. Either way if he did comment on a legal issue he din't read up on, then that's pretty tough to excuse.IRNlun6
- You have a side in this, against the democrats at any cost. No nuts to declare GOP.DrBombay
- Yet all you ever ever ever do is blame democrats for everything.DrBombay
- Nope. Not true. It would be nice for you if it was that easy.mathinc
- Your rants only go against democrats.DrBombay
- Maybe you can mix some republican hate in, to keep up appearances.DrBombay
- ukit0
Give me a fucking break man, this implication that people have no idea what they are voting for is nonsense.
It's a simplistic hook that Fox, Limbaugh and the others have created because they know it gets people fired up faster than actually explaining the issues, but it's complete bullshit.
- Don't make me out to be some FOX dipshit. I believe our politicians should know what they're voting for. Call me old-fashionedmathinc
- old-fashioned. But knowing what you're voting on or talking about is pretty important.mathinc
- Holder doesn't vote you ignorant sack of shit!DrBombay
- See where I said 'or talk about'.. that would apply to Holder. Or were you talking to ukit who did only say 'voting for'?mathinc
- Ukit.. Rick just called you an 'ignorant sack of shit!'mathinc
- KICK ASS, UKIT! :DPonyBoy
- Yup.. Rick turned on ukit, this is a weird day.mathinc