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- ukit0
Don't you think that at the end of the day your employer is gonna pay you the same no matter what? If income tax was eliminated, salaries would just go down to reflect that.
- You live in a really strange reality.mathinc
- It's like some movie version of how corporations work.mathinc
- Oh yeah, I live in a strange reality, says the guy who seriously proposes eliminating all taxesukit
- Just because you lean to the right and your name is "mathinc" doesn't mean you know about economics;)ukit
- Oh I proposed eliminating all taxes? Now you're a ventriloquist too?mathinc
- Really, please show me where I ever said that, you and Rick just love making shit up to prove your point.mathinc
- Look at the top of the page...there's no serious economist out there who thinks you can replace everything w/ a consumption taxukit
- consumption tax.ukit
- 1. Johndiggity didn't say eliminate ALL taxes. 2. I never even said I was for a flat tax or that I agreed with JD. 3. I've nevermathinc
- suggested we should abolish ALL taxes. 4. Why am I listing things out for you, honestly, how the fuck did you come up withmathinc
- some lie that I said I seriously backed eliminating ALL taxes? FFS!mathinc
- All I was saying was that YOU don't know what you're talking about when it comes to how corps decide to structure pay..mathinc
- LOL, you just said yourself that you did. Point #3.ukit
- I'm assuming you meant the opposite, but whatever.ukit
- I noticed that, but I guessed you were smart enough to figure out that this stupid comment box cut off the word 'never'.mathinc
- Did you want apologize? Or do you not apologize for making shit up to suit your case? Same as Rick..mathinc
- He was kidding you fucking loudmouth.DrBombay
- He was kidding about what Rick? That I said we should abolish all taxes? He was serious about that.. fuck you're dumb.mathinc
- Honestly I don't know how you make it through the day without accidentally killing yourself. You're a scared little parrot.mathinc
- go make a misspelled sign about it.DrBombay
- DrBombay0
You Libertarians live in a fantasy world. If it were Simcity there would be blinking electric power icons and fires/floods everywhere.
- ukit0
^ hahaha, totally man. I also love how they talk about completely eliminating income taxes like it's some common sense move, when in fact it's NEVER BEEN TRIED BEFORE. It's a completely radical, unproven economic idea.
- everyone will just give money out of the goodness of their heart, for things like roads, bridges, schools, etc.Josev
- You think your taxes are going to roads bridges and schools? How cute.mathinc
- No really Josev, you're adorable.mathinc
- those are being paid for by magical fairies!DrBombay
- I guess you support wars then Rick? Do you think more money goes to wars or bridges?mathinc
- ukit0
And yes, I realize in the days of the horse and buggy there was no income tax...but it was a slightly different world back then to put it mildly. Ditto with social security, minimum wage, and all these other things conservatives casually talk about repealing.
- Yeah you're right, we should just keep driving that SS train into the wall just so we can all feel good about ourselves.mathinc
- DrBombay0
I bet the Libertarians are the first people to bitch about potholes in the street too.
- mathinc0
'when in fact it's NEVER BEEN TRIED BEFORE.'
LOL HAHA, you mean before it was instituted 1861, HAH totally man! HAHA and you know, when they used class warfare to pass the bill to begin with.. so funny! LMFAO! It's the same way they're getting us to pass this shit today!! LOL!
Jesus you guys are dipshits, you really think giving the government the money you make helps anyone? You probably have no idea how they even instituted taxes.. but sure, go look it up. I've never been for abolishing all taxes and no one on this page has even said that so I have no idea why you two crows are cawing on about. I'm fine with some taxes, but the way you guys talk about it it's the only thing keeping the world afloat. How about you two go make enough money to actually feel the pain of taxes.. 'Oh shucks I don't get anything back this year' doesn't count. ;)
- I owe probably more than you make in a year. Shut your face.762mm
- We all pay taxes you mental patient.DrBombay
- right right .. you have no idea.mathinc
- Rick, do you know how to read? The sentence you're referring to has a qualifying statement, 'enough money to actually..'mathinc
- I KNOW we all pay taxes.. dipshit. READ READ READ then you can react. :Dmathinc
- 762 can barely put together complete sentences but he thinks he owes more than what I make... delusional.mathinc
- mmm. So notes require proper diction? Fuck off sandwich maker.762mm
- and yes, I do. I am sure I owe more than your piddly little chain of fat inducing rat traps.762mm
- ukit0
Yea haha, let's go back to all the policies pre 1861, I'm sure it will be a blast. I bet those policies totally translate to the modern world. How laughable of me to think otherwise.
Cut all this pro/anti government back and forth, and you're left with the major fiscal problem facing the U.S., the deficit. Funny thing is we can actually put a serious dent in it by raising taxes on the top income brackets just slightly. But instead of unifying around that simple, common sense way to solve the problem, we get all this vague or downright delusional ranting about how we need a flat tax system, now of all times.
Nevermind that there isn't a major industrialized power in the world that runs everything off a consumption tax as John Diggity (and Mike Huckabee) would have us believe is the way to go. Fuck it, let's go for broke - let's try some completely unfounded, bullshit idea just for the hell of it right when we're on the brink of going bankrupt. Yar!!!
- Is 'going back to 1861' what I said? You said it's 'never been tried before.' It had.. get it? :)mathinc
- ukit says 'it's NEVER BEEN TRIED BEFORE'mathinc
- I point out that it was until 1861.mathinc
- ukit thinks that I want to go back to 1861 policies.mathinc
- That's quite the leap in logic ukit, quite the fucking leap. If I like the color red does that mean I fuck fire engines?mathinc
- Great jebus you guys are amazing. You're like this ex girlfriend of mine.. I would say 'oh come on stop being stupid'mathinc
- and she would say 'Oh so now I'm stupid?!?!?!'.. in hind sight I should have just said 'Yes' and walked out.. but I didn't know thatmathinc
- at the time. It amazes me though that I put up with it for so long. Like look at this thread, I've been putting up with Rick and ukitmathinc
- and now 791cm doing the same little word play twist up and I keep coming back. Maybe deep down I like it, the pain, frustration in constantlymathinc
- in constantly having to remind people that you never said what they're now saying that you did say and then they never apologize.mathinc
- apologize about lying in the first place.. right Rick? When you said I called someone a racist in the Katrina thread.. when I never even postedmathinc
- even posted in that thread? Or when you ran around saying I supported the war.. which I didn't. You guys love these little fantasticmathinc
- fantastical logic leaps, and lies. You Democrats sure are swell, I mean sure, Republicans suck bigger dick now than anyone butmathinc
- you liberals are a real fucked up shrill bunch too, you just don't see it, or recognize the parallels of how you do business with the waymathinc
- way born again Christians do business, kind of detestable. The worst part is that you lie and then never apologize. Liars.mathinc
- It's like you feel this need to convert everyone to your way of life.. or else the planet will die, the poor will curl up into little dust ballsmathinc
- balls and go flying under the refrigerator when the AC kicks on. But it's this NEED to make everyone conform to you and yourmathinc
- your choices. I know I'm way off topic btw. Sorry. See I'm not too big to say 'sorry,' why can't you fuckers do it?mathinc
- You guys do make me laugh though. I'll bet you guys are okay in person, and I don't mind that you suck online.mathinc
- No, don't stop...keep going.ukit
- wow. Cant understand why you and the girlfriend broke up...DrBombay
- We're still friends though. :)mathinc
- trooperbill0
listened to radio 4 last night in an interview with Gordon Brown they stated that out of all new jobs created in the last 2 years, 97% were given to immigrant workers... and this was on RADIO 4... WTF 97%!!! even if you factor in the other statistics for other types of work it still comes out at 78% !!!
- he wants the votes that go to the bnp,
simplegeorgesIII - no, he wouldnt admit the figures were right, despite them coming from his office!!!trooperbill
- he wants the votes that go to the bnp,
- 762mm0
Your empire is falling. Say goodbye to your white picket fences, your white neighborhoods and your white money. In 30 years your nation will not be what it once was. How does that make you feel?
- 762mm0
Because all of those preconceived notions you grew up with, the ones your parents put in your heads.. Guess what, the boogie man is coming to see you sometime soon. The meek shall inherit the earth motherfuckers.
- mathinc0
^^ The rallying cry of the disillusioned loser.
- ukit0
Hey mathinc, am I wrong to assume that you want to cut taxes? Dramatically cut taxes as a "solution" to the current fiscal situation? If I'm wrong in that assumption, then guess what...we're in agreement. No need to argue.
- Just getting sick of hearing this tax cut bullshit from conservatives who think they know about economicsukit
- not here either. wait...762mm
- If Reagan hadn't embarked on his "voodoo economics" policy - you know, the one Bush's dad thought was BS - we wouldn't be in this fucking situationukit
- be in this fucking situationukit
- oh don't bring up the puppet now.762mm
- And yet people on the right have the nerve to pretend they know more about economic policy than the rest of us...ukit
- Guess what, we tried your ideas, they fucking suck.ukit
- *not at all aimed at you, math, unless you agree with that nonsenseukit
- I think you're referring more to the redneck hillbilly misspelled sign writing core of the Republican party.mathinc
- I think that misguided group somehow thinks mass tax cuts is something positive.mathinc
- mathinc0
ukit.. I don't think there is a sane person alive who thinks cutting taxes in this current situation is a 'solution,' as you put it. I don't really know where you got the idea that I want government to cut taxes wholesale, and that I somehow think that doing that would fix anything. I think the crux of the argument (at least between sane people) is paying more taxes vs. reducing spending. I'm for the latter.. you seem to be for the former.
I don't know why you point to a Bush tax cuts diagram as an argument against cutting taxes when even my shih tzu (yeah I have a gay mans dog) knows that for cutting taxes to work you have to reduce spending, which neither party wants to do.
So I'm afraid we're out of one argument and into another.. carry on.
- ukit0
Hey, all I'm saying is wait til Obama tries to let the Bush tax cuts lapse. It's gonna happen soon. Here is how the changes will shake out BTW:
Pretty fucking minor, huh? Now are you telling me there WON'T be screaming bloody murder from the right just like on health care? LOL
So yeah math I'm glad you are more centrist in your thinking and I'M SORRY (there, I said it) if I attributed John's thinking to you...but I hope people like you keep that mindset when this starts getting debated.
- ********0
Destroyer-In-Chief
Obama is like a destructive child who takes apart a watch and then cannot put it back together again.1. Takes apart the car industry, put's it under Federal control.
2. Dismantling the best healthcare system in the world, replaces it with socialized medicine.
3. Destroying our military by signing a nuclear treaty with Russia, which they'll gladly sign because it only benefits them. The treaty, the work of the mentally disordered left, will mean a 30% reduction in our nuclear arsenal and a steep cut on our submarines and strategic bombers. He's already slashed the defense budget. And just when the HItler of Iran and North Korea want to build up theirs. That meaningless piece of toilet paper means nothing. Goodbye Israel.Russia, who just happens to have a long history of renegging on nuke agreements. How is one to quantify how many the'yre are going to destroy? Both Russia and China are in the process of modernizing their nuclear program. How much of the U.S. nuclear is outdated? Does BO know or has he said anything about it?
Obama states that the spread of nuclear weapons to more states is an "unacceptable risk" to global security. Well, no sh*t, this treaty increases that risk.
- lemming...BusterBoy
- You should probably read about the proposed treaty.Mimio
- I prefer House Negro in Chief myself.MyMommies
- reducing our nuclear arms only by a 1/3rd still gives both side to destroy each other many times overfooler2
- Currently we have NO treaty with Russia. This one is common sense to further deproliferataion.Mimio
- ********0
A record number of voters want Congress out.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/12724…
Voters Issue Strong Rebuke of Incumbents in Congress
Fewer than half (49%) would re-elect own member, 28% for most members- What does the chart just below that tell you? http://www.gallup.co…Mimio
- People will probably be re-electing their own representatives.Mimio
- doubt it********
- MyMommies0
Any of you who think that cutting taxes would be worse than raising taxes, or adding new taxes like the VAT is a fucking cock-sucking faggot with no brain whatsoever.
Ukit, you are the most ignorant motherfucker on the face of this planet and your mother really needs to be bitch-slapped for squeezing you out.
- MyMommies0
Ukit, Mimio, mg33... could this be you?
- Still got nothing to say huh?ukit
- I've been a lot worse than this.mikotondria3
- Not the sweater though, thats worse than anything I had, even as a kid in the 70smikotondria3
