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- ukit0
Wha? They care about "the health of the environment," therefore they are biased? That's a pretty weak argument my friend.
Anyway, again, their methodology...
"The authors contacted the 10,200 scientists listed in the 2007 edition of the American Geological Institute's Directory of Geoscience Departments"
That's like calling up every member of AIGA to do a survey on graphic design.
- read the site, it almost sounds like it's coming from Gore. There can be no denying they lean towards a certain view.designbot
- I see your point on the environment, I should have emphasized other parts.designbot
- Does it even matter? They just did a survey of every available scientist in Geoscience.ukit
- Designbot, I think you may be the one with the bias...DrBombay
- You just do not want to believe that these guys may be right.DrBombay
- I am willing to look at all the evidence. And, yes sadly I know I have some biased...but so do you all...we all do.designbot
- Not every side is "a little bit right" Sometimes in the real world, one side is incorrect.DrBombay
- ukit0
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/…
Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?
- ukit0
WTF is this shit
- TheBlueOne0
Wow, imagine spilling this many pixels on discussing whether all the "military specialists" who talk on TV and give testimony in Congress about beefing up our military are "nuetral".
How people who pursue careers in climate science and geology are somehow cast as part of a huge conspiracy with huge financial gains for them is just crazy to me. On one side you have huge energy corporations worth billions of dollars, paying untold money on lobbyists, and the other you have scientists who somehow have an "agenda" and a "financial interest" because they're hoping to grab a few thousand dollars for grant money to continue their research. Amazing how this story gets spun.
- ukit0
^Thank you. I feel like I'm trying to convince someone the sky is blue or the fucking Earth is round.
OH WAIT
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- designbot0
Ukit, this is not even remotely close to debating the sky being blue or earth is round. That is actually pretty condescending of you to say.
- TheBlueOne0
And since when is having an opinion on an issue seen as a bad thing? Of COURSE we have competing agendas, I mean, fucking grow up. Between this lightweight bullshit media ongoing meme about "the answer is always somewhere in the middle so we'll present both sides" crap that we're bombarded with everyday and the amount of money entrenched interests pay captive corporate media to filter their coverage..I mean it's not amazing that we can make no progress on this stuff.
You know, scientists have an agenda, energy corporations have an agenda, religious groups have an agenda..everyone has a fucking agenda. The answer isn't always in the middle and they all can't be right all the time. That's the whole point of a democracy and a free market of ideas and free will and the empirical method - to weigh this shit and get to something as humanly possible to the thruth and act on it.
The whole problem as I see it, is the powers that be love nothing better than to "engage in healthy debate" and prolong that charade as long as necessary as long as it keeps anything from threatening their influence.
- ukit0
OK, I'm sorry, I'm sure you are sincere in your belief.
All I'm saying is, consider the fact that you might be wrong.
- designbot0
^No worries.....
I am willing to consider that. It is actually really pretty frustrating on issues like this where there is no absolutes. I think we all yearn for the silver bullet...we just want to know 100%. But the world is corrupt and we have as much misinformation as we do information....in the "information age"Ahh well, hopefully time will give us some certainty.
- designbot i like you********
- nice, I won't take the "GFY" personally then :)designbot
- designbot i like you
- PonyBoy0
designbot... GFY.
- TheBlueOne0
You guys think GetRefresh is just lurking out there?
- ukit0
It's gotta be killing him not to post
- TheBlueOne0
"Celebrity culture has leeched into every aspect of our culture, including politics, to bequeath to us what Benjamin DeMott called “junk politics.” Junk politics does not demand justice or the reparation of rights. Junk politics personalizes and moralizes issues rather than clarifying them. “It’s impatient with articulated conflict, enthusiastic about America’s optimism and moral character, and heavily dependent on feel-your-pain language and gesture,” DeMott noted. The result of junk politics is that nothing changes – “meaning zero interruption in the processes and practices that strengthen existing, interlocking systems of socioeconomic advantage.” It redefines traditional values, tilting “courage toward braggadocio, sympathy toward mawkishness, humility toward self-disrespect, identification with ordinary citizens toward distrust of brains.” Junk politics “miniaturizes large, complex problems at home while maximizing threats from abroad. It’s also given to abrupt unexplained reversals of its own public stances, often spectacularly bloating problems previously miniaturized.” And finally, it “seeks at every turn to obliterate voters’ consciousness of socioeconomic and other differences in their midst.” "
- TheBlueOne0
I thought these few paragraphs were especially insightful:
- I thought these few paragraphs were especially racistPonyBoy
- I think you meant "reverse racist". That's your buzzword, no?TheBlueOne
- Don't you think this guy is putting the cart before the horse. I've always felt like it's a percentage of the people whotommyo
- make up the Rep party who have racial tendencies. He's presenting this like it's the party who promotes racial issues.tommyo
- PonyBoy0
Heyyyy.... another fucking missle from Kim Jong Fuck!!! Whee!!
I'm going to bed.