Camera Ricoh vs Sigma
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- keiTai
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/…
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http://www.dpreview.com/news/080…
anyone have any experience with one?
- 23kon0
different cameras!
i was in this dilema months ago.
tossup between the Ricoh GRD / GRDII / GX100 / Sigma DP1 etc.
spent weeks pixelpeeping on flickr and reading every review i could.The GRD has some nice features like its grainy noise reduction which gives an effect like filmgrain rather than pixelsmearing compression and a lot of people LOVE this camera for this.
The GRDII is the same camera with some extra features, they increased the Megapixels and got rid of the 'grain' noise reduction - opting for pixelsmearing. A lot of GRD owners despise the GRDII for this reason.
In the end i ruled out the GRD's as I figured I needed a Zoom. (The GRD's are a fixed lens). Id been shooting with a Lomo LC-A for the past year or so (refinding my love for photography) and the only drawback about that camera was not having a zoom when needing to use the camera for 'touristy' pics (i.e ceilings details in castles or what have you).
The SIgma DP1 is very expensive. It does have the sensor of a DSLR so the picture quality is very high detail. HOWEVER, i read a LOT of reviews saying that this is a difficult camera to get good results from.
In the end i opted for the Ricoh GX100.
It has all the features of the Ricoh GRDII but without the pixelsmearing, its still not as 'grainy' as the GRD but almost, esp at high ISO's.
The GX100 also has a zoom, plus like the GRD you can get aftermarket lenses for it.
In fact - being able to use different addon lenses was a BIG PLUS for getting the Ricoh. Ive got a Nikon wide angle lens and I can use the wide angle lens from my Lomo LC-A on it too.Ricoh have recently released the GX200, which crams 12MP into a slightly larger sensor but from the images ive seen taken with this camera and the reviews ive read - i dont think its much better than the GX100. in fact the image quality might even be worse - as they seem to have used the same pixelsmearing as the GRDII for noise reduction.
The GX100 is a great camera and it looks the sex too - quite retro - and doesnt look like a flashy camera so youl feel less paranoid about carrying it. Its got a hotshoe too for flashes etc.
If mines fucked up, id still buy another GX100 over the 200 or the SIgma DP1
- great review mate - you just made up my mind on what i need. going for the GX100 ._me_
- 23kon0
- you just got to weigh up what YOU need and want from a camera
- come up with your shortlist
- pixelpeep on flickr and read as many reviews as possible
- go into a shop and handle these camerason that last point, id like to add that the GX100 is a robust little bastard and feels solid.
- thank you, thank you for the review and your ppinterskeiTai
- bigtrick0
I remember agonizing about getting a digital compact - I was all for the DP1 until the reviews came out. Now I use a Panasonic Lumix LX-2 i picked up used for $300 - it's got a decent-sized sensor chip for a compact. It can't match my Canon 30D of course, but I guess I'm satisfied with the results.
- loaf0
i prefer the G9 myself.. i have had good results with it.. also a lot cheaper than those two.. there is a buzz that the G10 might be out soon.. they claim that foveon chip is going to be in the next one.. also nikon is working on a high end point and shoot also.. rumor has it.. the g10 may drop next month at Photokina.. so maybe wait and see what drops next month..
- 23kon0
The Panasonic Lumix LX-2 and the G9 were other cameras i was considering.
The Lumix does have a good lens, but my conclusion from 'pixelpeeping' on flickr I decided that the GX100 was better.
I ruled out the G9 because of its size.
I wanted a digital camera to replace my Lomo LC-A and the GX100 is pretty much the same size - big enough to sit decently in your hand and small enough to fit into jeans/jacket pocket without showing a "ive got a camera in my pocket" bulge
- ephix0
I have a dp1 and I LOVE it!
- ********0
I have a Lumix LX-2 and I think its shite. I've seen other people's shots though and they look great, so I think I must have a dud one. Really ungood picture quality. I've tried all permutations of settings to get a decent pic, but they just don't ever seem to pass muster. There's nothing fundamentally 'wrong' with the shots, they just don't compare to my girlfriend's 'domestic' Canon Ixus or her dad's really crappy little 8mp digital camera that actually only cost him £40 brand new.
I'm off to the states so may think about picking up either a ricoh or a sigma over there. This thread is great and perfectly timed therefore.
- 23kon0
Spooky
Ricoh have just released the GX200 which like i said above isnt rated that highly as a decent enough upgrade to the GX100.
When its available everywhere then the price of the GX100 might drop, worth keeping your eyes peeled for ;)I got mines from jessops. you can get it same price or cheaper (but not by much) from online places like pixmania, but with jessops if you pay an extra £40 you get a full warranty. so even if you drop it in the toilet you'll get a new one!
plus theres a jessops in most cities so theres good comeback - you can take it in and demand a new one or get help. a lot moe comeback than the likes of pixmania.google "jessops discount" , i did it and managed to bag myself a load off the camera with a discount code.
- 23kon, when do you think the price will drop. Here the gx100 goes for $465keiTai
- zgraham0
a friend of mine had that ricoh
http://flickr.com/photos/wescumm…the black and white photos where all taken with it
- for those who didn;t realise photos per cam http://flickr.com/ca…keiTai
- pom0
Man, the Ricoh GR 35mm point and shoots were such good cameras ]:
- pom0
Or the 28mm or the 21mm...
- loaf0
the nikon appears to be out.. or coming soon..