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- canton0
I wonder if garettwest was IP banned would kOna be able to respond on NT.
I think not.
- mrdobolina0
Again I ask the question, name ONE time when your vote made a significantly positive change in your life. Answer that and I'll rethink my position.
Gilt001
(Mar 23 06, 08:56)Don't bitch about politricks if you don't vote.
- Gilt0010
I'm not bitching about politics. I'm making observations. I never bitch about politics. It has no meaning in my life.
- mrdobolina0
your civil rights have no meaning in your life? not yet anyway, I guess.
- ********0
When fear and paranoia drive your politics...
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"your civil rights have no meaning in your life? not yet anyway, I guess."mrdobolina
(Mar 23 06, 09:05)
- Gilt0010
When fear and paranoia drive your politics...
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"your civil rights have no meaning in your life? not yet anyway, I guess."mrdobolina
(Mar 23 06, 09:05)
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(Mar 23 06, 09:09)
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The powers that be have no influence on my life. They can ruin it if they like, but it's short term. I do not fear them. They play no role in my life, other than comedy.
- ********0
TEST
- ********0
I wonder if garettwest was IP banned would kOna be able to respond on NT.
I think not.
canton
(Mar 23 06, 08:56)Ok. Sorry about the 'TEST' above but I had to figure out the time difference.
So once again, for the people in the cheap seats. Garett's first post today was at a time of 5:51 which if it is roughly 9:18 (NT TIME) now the 5:51 post would have been a 7:51am post my time if a 9:18 NT Time is 11:46 my time.
I don't get to work until 9am every morning.
Hope that will help shut your yapper.
- ********0
If that was too difficult to understand basically garettwest and question were posting over an hour before I got to work... which was a bit late at 9:25 this morning.
Shhh.... don't tell the boss.
- ********0
The powers that be have no influence on my life. They can ruin it if they like, but it's short term. I do not fear them. They play no role in my life, other than comedy.
Gilt001
(Mar 23 06, 09:11)I was talking of mrdobolina who is voting and basing his politics on paranoia and fear.
Gilt001 you live in one of the best countries in the world. More people move to the U.S. then any other country on earth for a reason. Your vote counts and there are way too many checks and balances to ever fear that America will move without the majority.
The majority wants us in Iraq. We cannot allow the euro to be traded for oil and Europe knows this. They are trying to make it sound like we're cowboys and they're after peace when the reality is that Europe wants back their power and we wont let them have it.
Never forget that America is made up of every country. It is the only land where this is the case. Americans are from Europe, Asia and the Middle East. We are all ex-patriots who have left for a better life.
Those countries that we left are bitter, jealous and angry.
- mrdobolina0
Question, I have a number of questions for you.
You have no beef with wiretaps because you do nothing wrong, correct?
Do you have any beef with the FBI entering your home without a warrant to search for something that isn't there? What if it happened daily? What if they trashed your home in the process? What if they scared your kids, wife and elderly parents? What if they kicked in the door to do so?
You do know that the Quakers, PETA and other peaceful non-terrorist groups have been wiretapped under this program, don't you? Do you think that was done to improve national security?
Do you think that the precedent set by this republican president should be extended to all presidents in the future (including democrats) because we are in a war on terror?
Do you doubt that wiretaps were done for political purposes in the PETA and Quaker cases?
Can the war on terror ever be won?
Was the war on drugs ever won?
What other civil rights can be whittled away in order to improve security?
- mrdobolina0
It seems to me that anyone who votes to increase the security in their country by giving the president a blank check to break whatever laws he feels necessary to "keep the american people secure" is voting for paranoid reasons, no?
- Gilt0010
Question, I'm not taking a pot shot at you, but saying there are enough checks and balances to get keep this country from ever moving without the majority is a bit naive.
Politicians are out for one thing. Money. All of them can be bought and sold. A president with a 30% approval rating shows for a fact that they are moving without the backing of these lovely people of the USA.
Sure the representatives from the states would take their peoples feelings into consideration, but then they fly out the window once the payoff check comes in.
- ********0
"You have no beef with wiretaps because you do nothing wrong, correct?"
That is right, I do not fear wire taps.
-------------------------"Do you have any beef with the FBI entering your home without a warrant to search for something that isn't there? What if it happened daily? What if they trashed your home in the process? What if they scared your kids, wife and elderly parents? What if they kicked in the door to do so?"
This scenario is based on fear again but I have no issues with being inconvenienced. I am willing to forfeit some of my "spoiled American" comforts for the comfort of those who surround me unlike yourself. Life has changed for America and now we can no longer be spoiled. You need to give up some of your comforts and luxuries at times and I am all for it.
-------------------------"You do know that the Quakers, PETA and other peaceful non-terrorist groups have been wiretapped under this program, don't you? Do you think that was done to improve national security?"
I do think this has been done to improve national security yes. I believe that the majority of these programs today fuel (subconsciously and without the intent) the opposition.
-------------------------"Do you think that the precedent set by this republican president should be extended to all presidents in the future (including democrats) because we are in a war on terror?"
Of course. It was already set with Clinton (who I voted for btw).
-------------------------"Do you doubt that wiretaps were done for political purposes in the PETA and Quaker cases?"
I couldn't care less. The difference between you and I is that you are in a war against Bush and I am in a war against terrorism and to defend the US currency.
-------------------------"Can the war on terror ever be won?"
Not likely but that doesn't mean you let it happen and continue.
-------------------------"Was the war on drugs ever won?"
Pass
-------------------------"What other civil rights can be whittled away in order to improve security?"
Learn to adapt with today and trust that there are too many checks and balances to let fear drive your politics.
- mrdobolina0
So if you are willing to cash in some of your liberties for security, who is the paranoid one?
- mrdobolina0
Answer that honestly now...
- ********0
There is a big difference between the two.
You are in fear of something that hasn't happened and I am in responding to events that have already occured.
You fear your privacy will be taken. You fear you American luxuries are at risk. You fear of what the rest of the world thinks. You fear things have gotten worse in Iraq. You fear that Bush is getting rich. You fear this country is falling.
I fear none of the above and am completely opposite. I want to avoid another 9-11 and there has not been another since.
- mrdobolina0
I am not your straw man, Question.
Please don't set me up with opinions that I don't have and then combat them to win a false argument.
People can generally see through that tactic.
- ********0
I wonder if garettwest was IP banned would kOna be able to respond on NT.
I think not.
canton
(Mar 23 06, 08:56)It would really convenient to think that I am kOna, but I am not fucking kOna DAMNIT! Stop with the kOna shit. Im garettwest and proud of it.
