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- set0
- what a twatbklyndroobeki
- he's correct.lowimpakt
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- georgesIII0
so discuss the damm subject, how hard can it be,
if everyone has such a large sum of experiences why is it so hard to discuss such a simple subject as feminist,
why do you keep coming back to me, detritus?
Also what I tried to explain that you totally glossed over was that by moving around for the past 25 years, I may have seen and experienced diverse things from someone that has lived in the same place it's entire life, not that I'm so high and mighty, but just that the sum of my experiences are a lot different than the sum of others,now if only you could discuss feminism now, that would be so swell
- what did you want to discuss about it?monospaced
- He doesn't want to discuss, he wants to tell.set
- And I'm saying that other people have travelled widely too and probably see things differently to you —detritus
- I know, shocking, isn't it?
I'm not sure how much clearer I can be.detritus - He just wants those opinions instead of an insult.monospaced
- mono has found a kindred spiritset
- georgesIII0
@ukit,
should I call you names, should I say that you are holier than thou and you are full of it, should I evade your question and just say you are a half wit? no, I will just answer your question, like a normal fuckn person should,for me it comes down to the wrong idea that if you are for equal right for woman you are a feminist, I believe rad fem starting in the late 70 completely subverted the idea of feminism and too if from a place of giving more equal right to female gender to a place where men are a poison and a danger to all woman (btw this only apply to white cis males) [read dworkian work, I posted some links some page down]
being for equal right means a lot more for me than just quotas and privileges, it means that you will be treated with respect but you will not get a fast lane because of your gender, color, creed, age, country of provenience,
equal rights for me means that everyone will be given the same chances but the person most qualified for the position should get the position,
now modern feminism has subverted that, they want quotas, but just for minorities and women, they want less jail time, but only if you are a women, they want harder rape charges but only if the rapist is a man, they want so many things that are diametrically opposed to what I egalitarianism is that I wonder why most of the people I read this rehash the point that feminism is for equality when in fact there a long road filled with breadcrumbs that proves the contrary
was it hard for me to write this? no, so how hard it is to take a look at the link I post and just discuss them
- ukit doesn't come across as full of it and holier than thou, though. You do...set
- I don't think this is a holier than thou thing, he's simply pointing out a strong hypothesis for what's going onmonospaced
- bonnet blanc, blanc bonnetgeorgesIII
- it's a solid assessment backed up with evidence, but only slightly preachymonospaced
- no mono, you are WRONG, I know fuckn everything, I'm GOD ffsgeorgesIII
- I agree with you Georges... my company often feels anti-male the way it has embraced the PC'ness of feminismmonospaced
- Georges, I never attacked you in this thread, ever.monospaced
- georgesIII0
@mono,
I posted so many links, so many articles trying to show the not so good face of modern feminism, links disproving the repeated notions that women in moder societies are treated less than men,but instead of getting serious rebuttals or contrary point of views, all I got was a creepy stalker name calling me and telling me I'm full of shit, I'm apparently so full of shit and so high on my horse that he will not dare to expand on what are his views on feminism and egalitarianism.. but yet tells me he shares my views on feminism.
So here is one question I would at least like to be answered:
Is modern feminism more detrimental or good for women in the first world?
- I've already stated my views in this thread, your just too conceited to have registered them.set
- you'reset
- Been there, got the t-shirt. See the 'Science' threadMorning_star
- Georges, are you open to anyone who has only opinions without articles to back them up?monospaced
- Personally I feel the feminist movement is more detrimental as it makes some implications that women are still weakmonospaced
- And I do agree that it's turned into somewhat a double standard toward menmonospaced
- georgesIII0
So let me get it straight,
if a forum discuss a subject that doesn't interest you, it's because they are angry and disaffected,
can't you even see the huge generalisations you are making?
Why can I get some really deep debate on a bodybuilding forum but can't in a design forum, why do I always get personally attacked but the ideas are never, ever discussed,
I believe people here are a lot more extremist in their views because they rarely are open to discuss new subjects or anything they find new and different, they will resort to name calling, every fuckn time,
btw on your third paragraph, are you saying that because people live in a places where discrimination is internalized instead of spoken frankly, there is none? Am I understanding you right?
- No, I'm suggesting that Stormfront possibly attracts more politicking than QBN, for Very Obvious Reasons.detritus
- You're attacked because of your sheer arrogance, your holier than thou mentality, based on utter teeny bopper nonsense.set
- I visit sport forums, feminism forums, music forums, fuckn cooking forums, but only here do I get constantly attacked for just simple ideas and links that noone ever follow throughgeorgesIII
- You assume everyone else is ignorant and stupid because you've read a load of teenage tumblr posts.set
- simple ideas and links that noone ever follow throughgeorgesIII
- yeah, set, I assume everyone is ignorant, bad, smelly and poor, now if you could answer two simple questions, maybe I'd take you seriouslygeorgesIII
- you seriouslygeorgesIII
- How thick can you get? How many times must I repeat myself? Why would I answer those questions?set
- So fucking unfathomably moronic. Read my posts, understand why I don't have answers to your questions.set
- Christ.set
- yeah, so I can only come to the conclusion that you are a troll that doesn't not care about the pseudo equality he preachesgeorgesIII
- set0
You've gone in my estimations from full-wit, through semi-wit to iota-wit in this feminist thread. Though I'm assuming you possess at least one pubes worth of wit as evidently you're able to use a keyboard.
- yeah, I know I'm full of shit, I'm a twat, blah blah
now answer the questiongeorgesIII - still not getting my above post, thus proving this post...set
- you realize you're being a mono right now set, right?monospaced
- I get you 100% now either you point out where I'm wrong in my or answer my questions which are basic, now you can trow bullshit equality in your terms to make you look like you are well centered, but you aren't for equality, if you were you would be discussing this subject with a little more seriousnessgeorgesIII
- bullshit equality in your terms to make you look like you are well centered, but you aren't for equality, if you were you would be discussing this subject with a little more seriousnessgeorgesIII
- be discussing this subject with a little more seriousnessgeorgesIII
- So thick. Why would I answer your questions when I've already started 10 times that I share your general view of feminism... ?set
- ..of feminism. Such a deluded, self righteous, incomprehensible half wit.set
- yeah, I know I'm full of shit, I'm a twat, blah blah
- georgesIII0
Since a delicious feminist folly occurs nearly every day, I had a hard time picking the sweetest of the cherries off the cupcakes. But here goes, more or less in descending order of absurdity:
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/o…
(I can't believe latime actually published this)
- http://rachelpike65.…set
- Clickbait. And of course they get a woman to write it.ukit2
- do you guys even hear yourself, so when someone doesn't agree with your pov, he's probably coerced, so fuckn weak...georgesIII
- lol wutset
- set, as I said before if you know anything about the movement you embrace, why don't you expand on it?georgesIII
- excuse me, what movement do I embrace? hahaset
- You're deluded as shit. If you bothered to ever read my comments in this thread I've said that...set
- I think the feminist movement is a dangerous thing that creates more separation.set
- What you don't seem to realise is that you're fuelling the bullshit fire.set
- i_monk0
He doesn't want women in his shop and he's a monster, but women vandalizing it and sticking bloody tampons through the door aren't, somehow. That's the "feminism" people have a problem with.
- ya... modern day feminism seem to whine about trivial stuffs...pango
- He's a monster for not wanting to cunt women's hair? Or he's banned them from even coming in?set
- HAHA cut*set
- The article says they're welcome to enter and buy vouchers (I guess gift cards) but they don't cut women's hair.i_monk
- What the fucks wrong with that? Most places are either men our women, no?set
- I've never in all my years seen a women having her hair cut in a barbersset
- Rubbish phone typing there sorryset
- i_monk0
I can play that game too and ask you to name one thing she said in her video that are actually based on truth – georgesIII
OK. Here are three.
1. Gamergate isn't actually about ethics in journalism:
http://www.newsweek.com/gamergat…
"But an analysis by Newsweek found that Twitter users tweeting the hashtag #GamerGate direct negative tweets at critics of the gaming world more than they do at the journalists whose coverage they supposedly want scrutinized.""In the following graphic, compare how often GamerGaters tweet at Zoe Quinn, a developer, and Nathan Grayson, a Kotaku games journalist. In August, GamerGaters accused Grayson of giving Quinn’s game Depression Quest favorable reviews because Grayson and Quinn had been in a relationship. The relationship was fact, those ‘favorable reviews’ were fiction."
"Twitter users have tweeted at Quinn using the #GamerGate hashtag 10,400 times since September 1. Grayson has received 732 tweets with the same hashtag during the same period. If GamerGate is about ethics among journalists, why is the female developer receiving 14 times as many outraged tweets as the male journalist?"
2. Gamergate is actually about attacking people, regardless of their unethical behaviour in game journalism:
http://nivenus.kinja.com/5-myths…
"That's not to say there aren't real problems in video game journalism. There are. There's Warner Bros recent attempt to legally coerce YouTubers into providing positive coverage for their game Shadow of Mordor. There's Gearbox CEO Randy Pitchford's promise to hold reviewers who slammed Duke Nukem Forever "accountable." There's publisher's tendencies to push out "bullshot," footage which has been manipulated to make a game look more graphically impressive than it really is. There's the games industry's massive focus on awards shows, which are arguably at this point more about hype than anything else. There's plenty of problems to go around."But is this what Gamergaters talk about? No, not even remotely. Instead of talking about major publishers bullying reviewers into giving their games' good reviews or the industry's obsession with award shows, Gamergaters focus their ire on small developers, feminist critics, and the journalists who support them."
3. Women are being threatened over this and she personally was threatened with death if she spoke at Utah State Uni:
http://www.usu.edu/ust/index.cfm…
"As you are aware, several USU staff members received a threatening email at 10:15 p.m. on Monday, Oct. 13 regarding Anita Sarkeesian’s talk scheduled for Wednesday, Oct. 15. As you probably have read, this email threatened both Ms. Sarkeesian and those who attended her event."The safety of our students, staff and USU community is paramount to us. USU police were contacted immediately, as were state and federal agencies, including the Utah Statewide Information and Analysis Center, the FBI Cyber Terrorism Task Force, and the FBI Behavioral Analysis Unit.
"Prior to the threat, USU police were already making preparations for security as Ms. Sarkeesian had received threats in the past..."
Bonus: Here's a female developer being chased from her home. Because developers are to blame for what journalists write, somehow, and this isn't about harassing women who dare to criticize the status quo in gaming:
- Wrote this long as post about how you are wrong, yada, yada, yada, then I realise, I've just have to wait a year or two and you'll agree with megeorgesIII
- you'll agree with me, no joke I'm bookmarking this postgeorgesIII
- Weak ass shit reply, trollboy.i_monk
- patheticset
- georgesIII0
- NIPS!set
- would suckset
- "heavily entrenched" in LGBTIRNlun6
- get back to the kitchen.iCanHazQBN
- set0
haha, jesus fucking christ. If you lack the intelligence to see that was an obvious piece of satire, sarcasm, then wow.
How on earth could anyone conceive of someone using that sentence without them knowing it is sexist? You are utterly blidned by a completely lack of reason and humour .
- a daft bint.set
- I've said many times in here that I am utterly and completely for equality, so much so I don't understand any other viewpoint.set
- If you can't laugh about it then you are in trouble.set
- how does that satire work though? Or even sarcasm? It's not ridiculous enough to be satirical.Ianbolton
- and if I didn't know you I wouldn't know it was joke. But I know you. I know where you live. I see you most daysIanbolton
- Have you even read the context?set
- I'm here merely to amuse myself. I have no time for people who ignore all the positive sentiment I add and focus on one joke..set
- ...in order to reinforce their own small minded view of the world.set
- you don't think telling a woman to get back in the kitchen is ridiculous? I do...set
- SEXIST!set
- ...and make me a sandwich.ApeRobot
- mg330
Here’s what bugs me about that video. Sure, in those 10 hours she was harassed, and the creepy dudes walking next to her were totally inappropriate. But here’s the big question: In those 10 hours, how many times wasn’t she harassed?
The thing with videos like this is that they form broad generalizations without the other side of the story being told. What if this video only represents 10% of those 10 hours, and the other 90% is of people saying absolutely nothing? Wouldn’t that be worth recognizing? Wouldn’t it be worth pointing out that more people said nothing than harassed her? I’m not condoning harassment or trying to diminish it. But this video is going around and around and people are seeing it as some across-the-board “all men are like this” and “this happens to all women all the time” example, which is totally not true.
You could take the video of her never being harassed in the same 10 hours, title it “Gentlemen of New York City” and use it to say that a woman can walk down the street and all men will never be rude to her.
- lol sure he was stabbed 20 times your honour, but what about the 5 minutes in between that I wasn't stabbing him?set
- (i get your point though)set
- Set this made me LOLzmg33
- 10 hours is 600 minutes.
That video is 2 minutes.
So it's a 300:1 ratio of good guys :douchesBaskerviIle - But really there shouldn't be any douches. Imagine going through that every day!BaskerviIle
- A ginger (male) friend of a friend came out with us the other night and he got abused all night, it was crazyset
- the poor cunt must have to put up with it all the time. I was actually shocked at the amount of ginger abuse he gotset
- Maybe I should have given him a breakset
- jkset
- omg0
- oey0
I should have written:
"Women not supporting Feminism is like Black People supporting Apartheid."
But I didn't.
Probably you think that the World is like Hollywood movies or Marvel comics.
Probably you don't even understand what I mean with my last sentence.It seems you don't have any idea how women are treated in so many countries around the World.
Which I actually don't believe.Excision, rape, stoning, body covered, having to walk behind men, executed because of male dominant society rules, having to seat in different train compartments, etc...
It's nothing like Apartheid at all...
You know, there's this play.
About how a woman says she's discriminated for being a woman.
A white woman.
From the Western World.Then another says she's more discriminated, because, besides being a woman she's also black.
Then another says she's even more discriminated because on top of that she's a lesbian.
Then there's another one that says that she's even more discriminated because on top of the above reasons she's a muslim.
And...you know what? I'm gonna leave it here.
I have work to do.- we must be as thick as shit because we don't agree 100% with you.set
- I never said that or didn't meant that at all. actually never in my life I used the impression thick as shit.oey
- It was implied.set
- telling a black man who has lived in europe, asia, north america and africa that he doesn't know what discrimination is, r u serii?GeorgesII
- I think you need to travel more and stop reading snuff, your are spewing things you have no real knowledge of, just talking pointsGeorgesII
- in which moment did I tell you that you have no clue what discrimination is? I was talking about women.oey
- sorry read this "It seems you don't have any idea how women are treated in so many countries around the World." my mind skipped the next sentenceGeorgesII
- skipped the next sentenceGeorgesII
- it's time to stop posting oeyset
- get back to the kitchen?set
- sem0
Surprised that this has not been posted here. Maybe this will help raise some awareness of what Feminism actually is.
- Feminism by it's very nature is a dividing force. We want equality not more division.set
- Feminism is a way to end up the division created by man. what the fuck dude? Feminism is not dividing, society is already divided.oey
- divided. By man. Not by women. What are you scared of?oey
- Oh please. I'm assuming you're a woman? I would like nothing more than compete equality.set
- feminism does not men more for one than the other, it means equal for all.sem
- It's instant division though by it's very nature. I think we all want the same thing...set
