9/11 salute
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- lowimpakt0
that was supposed to be
"People should learn what totalitarianism means"
- ********0
Recent European history does not suggest it has a very good record of standing up to totalitarian ideologies.
Cactus
(Sep 12 05, 03:54
=====================Not saying European governments have not supported tin-pot dictatorships in their times (and contniue to do so); but the EU was instrumental in the transition to democracy of Eastern Europe. Not only that but several European governments have been vocal about speaking out against autochratic regimes sucah as Zimbabwe, Sudan, Uzbekistan etc. Conversely, US hypocrisy in supporting dictatorship in one region and promoting “democracy” in another, hardly gives them a “good record of standing up to totalitarian ideologies.”
- mcposeidon0
a bad day for america
- inspiration0
I feel these lyrics possess a powerful message:
America...
America...
America, FUCK YEAH!
Coming again, to save the mother fucking day yeah,
America, FUCK YEAH!
Freedom is the only way yeah,
Terrorist your game is through cause now you have to answer too,
America, FUCK YEAH!
So lick my butt, and suck on my balls,
America, FUCK YEAH!
What you going to do when we come for you now,
it’s the dream that we all share; it’s the hope for tomorrowFUCK YEAH!
McDonalds, FUCK YEAH!
Wal-Mart, FUCK YEAH!
The Gap, FUCK YEAH!
Baseball, FUCK YEAH!
NFL, FUCK, YEAH!
Rock and roll, FUCK YEAH!
The Internet, FUCK YEAH!
Slavery, FUCK YEAH!etc. etc. etc.
- ********0
Recent European history does not suggest it has a very good record of standing up to totalitarian ideologies.
Cactus
(Sep 12 05, 03:54)careful there again.
do not forget lives lost and the bravery of resistance in WWII and WWI.
it's not that we did not do anything________
please.
- ********0
Recent European history does not suggest it has a very good record of standing up to totalitarian ideologies.
Cactus
(Sep 12 05, 03:54
====================not to mention FAIR (= Geneve Convention Compliant) trial of war criminals by an international court in the Hague approved by most nations except for..
you guessed it,
the biggest totalitarian oppressor,
the US of A.
- Cactus0
"Isn't starting a war without ONU aproval a totalitarian ideologie???"
I wonder if you felt that way when NATO "started a war" in Bosnia to save the muslim population there from Serbian aggression.
Kuz,
This is exactly what I mean when say the European reaction to the onset of Bush's "War On Terror" has been very equivocal, even ambivalent. How to react to an event like 9/11? Is no action required because it will cause more radicalisation? A perfect excuse for inaction. If that is, at bottom, what you want.Totalitarianism is a system which seeks to impose it's beliefs on others, by force if necessary, to the exclusion of all else. Intellectual and consequently, physical slavery in short.
- inspiration0
Recent European history does not suggest it has a very good record of standing up to totalitarian ideologies.
Cactus
(Sep 12 05, 03:54)WTF?!
History lessons might be a bit more rewarding if you learned about the rest of the world and not just the civil war.
- Cactus0
"...EU was instrumental in the transition to democracy of Eastern Europe"
????
That was a very recent and selective history.
- inspiration0
Recent European history does not suggest it has a very good record of standing up to totalitarian ideologies.
Cactus
(Sep 12 05, 03:54)Maybe you been watching too much Saving Private Ryan.
- ********0
"I wonder if you felt that way when NATO "started a war" in Bosnia to save the muslim population there from Serbian aggression."
started?
ok, right now i better pull out of this thread.
it is dangerous talking to the blind and ignorant.
goodbye.
- ********0
Recent European history does not suggest it has a very good record of standing up to totalitarian ideologies.
Cactus
(Sep 12 05, 03:54)Maybe you been watching too much Saving Private Ryan.
inspiration
(Sep 12 05, 04:24)one last thing,
about inspirations comment:
LOL!
- ********0
This is exactly what I mean when say the European reaction to the onset of Bush's "War On Terror" has been very equivocal, even ambivalent. How to react to an event like 9/11? Is no action required because it will cause more radicalisation? A perfect excuse for inaction. If that is, at bottom, what you want.
===================thats a ridiculous thing to say when Europe was united behind the US in disposing the Taleban in Afghanistan. You don't seem to understand European anxiety towards unfettered american militarism.
- ********0
This is exactly what I mean when say the European reaction to the onset of Bush's "War On Terror" has been very equivocal, even ambivalent. How to react to an event like 9/11? Is no action required because it will cause more radicalisation? A perfect excuse for inaction. If that is, at bottom, what you want.
===================thats a ridiculous thing to say when Europe was united behind the US in disposing the Taleban in Afghanistan. You don't seem to understand European anxiety towards unfettered american militarism.
- Cactus0
" History lessons might be a bit more rewarding if you learned about the rest of the world and not just the civil war."
Classic elitist sobbery.
Or perhaps you were referring to the European civil wars of 1914 and 1939?
- inspiration0
word, crouwel - you're holding this thread down.
- lowimpakt0
"...EU was instrumental in the transition to democracy of Eastern Europe"
????
That was a very recent and selective history.
Cactus
(Sep 12 05, 04:24)
----------------------------one of the founding points of the EU was to prevent another war on european soil. It was also to allow for integrated economic regeneration to prevent the same mistake of creating the conditions for the rise of someone like Hitler i.e. post WW1.
- ********0
"...EU was instrumental in the transition to democracy of Eastern Europe"
????
That was a very recent and selective history.
Cactus
(Sep 12 05, 04:24)yes it was recent history (selective???) I'm trying to explain to you, that European has record of promoting democracy. And i'm not sure quite whtt you're alluding to here, as thought anything might make the US look in a good light when faced with tyranny. (how about chemical weapons to Saddam)?
- unfittoprint0
Rambo III
is instrumental to understand American geopolitics in teh 80's.
- e-pill0
100!
NYC I LOVE YOU!!!
:)