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- ZOOP0
Anonymous Roman Soldier "Hey Jesus, you look hungry up there on that cross, but all I have is this crumb of bread. Oh that's right, you can turn it into enough to feed both of us! Here touch it... why I'll be damned, it's still just a crumb. Catch you later bro, dinner time!"
- mikotondria30
Anonymous lame man in story "Hey, Jesus - you healed me with just what appeared to be just magic, because you know - you are God in human form, all powerful, all knowing, all loving - the creator and father of the universe, source of all goodness and wisdom. From which all came and to which all will return, beginning and end. Why not just cure ALL lameness, right now, this minute. For if you cannot, you are not the all-powerful one you claim to be. If you will not then you aren't the all-loving one that the God we have had revealed to us."
Jesus looked thoughtful for a moment and stood up.
"No - it is more mysterious than that - you wouldn't understand", he said. "I have given man freewill - freewill to help one another and love one another as you have been made in my Father's (and mine) image - yours is the choice to love one another and heal lameness."
And bystanders were mightily impressed with this, and did applause a little, for it sounded wise on the surface of it, and Jesus held his hand to them, like - yes, yes, thank you.
"Oh come on" sayeth the now fit and well man, "That's not always the case is it ? Not all suffering is due to other people just not caring enough - what a about kids with uncurable cancer, or all those people getting buried in Pompeii in a few years' time ? They're just getting fucked over by where they live. Rockfalls, avalanches, floods, diseases and so on ?"
But Jesus just wandered off, leaving everyone to try and shoehorn their primitive philosophies together, and getting out their old books on Epicurus and that thing he'd said only a few years earlier.
Jesus was a nice, smart guy, they all agreed, and his philosophies on getting along with each other were quite refreshing although not entirely new, they thought.- Scary accurate.monospaced
- I wish I could find a cure for lameness.nb
- breadlegz0
mikotondria3 - so from your story, are you saying God is not real, or God just isn't all that powerful?
- either.mikotondria3
- Epicurus had it covered.
http://en.wikiquote.…mikotondria3
- CygnusZero4-1
Always cracks me up to see people talking about god. I know religion is something that gives people something to lean on and its very healthy for a lot of people (and very unhealthy for others), and in their minds they know what god is, but its just funny to me how every civilization has their own idea of what god is.
1000's of years ago people thought the sun was the god. Well now we know it isnt, but for them it actually was a god and that was good enough for them. They didnt really need to know that it was just 1 of billions of stars. They didnt even know it was like the other stars out there. They would have been supremely disappointed to know that. Its not different at all in modern times. God is just an idea fabricated by human minds, which is fine. It doesnt need to be something real to have a purpose that's good for you.
I always feel like with things like this, truth and reality are actually a disappointment. Do we really want to know what our god actually is? Its like the man behind the curtain, or the wizard of oz.
- The Sun is, your god.Bow down you fool.ApeRobot
- 1000's of years ago people thought Jesus was God as well. They still do now.breadlegz
- correction, about 2000 years ago a handful of people thought jebus was god. Not even half do now, and that number continues to fallmonospaced
- that continues to reduce.monospaced
- half of the planet never heard of the carpenter/doctor jew, and their ancestors haven't eithermonospaced
- moldero-1
why do some feel the need to think there is a god in the first place, because without one we as people have no purpose? do we need some god dude to give us a reason or 'meaning of life' to live life to the fullest? and why do the people who believe in god think their owed something by this god anyway, like, when I die, im gonna be rewarded and go to heaven, or nirvana or whatever. isn't life on this earth as a human a gift enough?
imagine if you lived your one and only short life as a fish:
or a small mamal:
or a zebra:
are religious people unappreciative little shits? or do they just need to be bribed into not acting like an asshole?
- Winner! Profane of The year award. Congrats.yurimon
- It's reassurance for those who fear the unknown so much that they will accept falsehoods as fact.ZOOP
- humans need a meaning to die. most people live only in anticipation of something grander.teh
- There is different types of meaning. One created as a control system and other an expression of free will, intellect, appreciation.yurimon
- appreciation. Your free to choose what you want and the consequences that come with. no diff as arrogance of the Christians in scientific form of a world view.yurimon
- any institutionalized power in you're world view.. You're capacity to see is along the lines of you're consciousness resolution. like a mega pixel brain cannot take a 10 mega pixel snapshot of realityyurimon
- resolution. like a 1 mega pixel brain cannot take a 10 mega pixel snapshot of reality. Also more about observation then meaning.yurimon
- meaning and understanding and what you do with it.yurimon
- Out of every possibility in our free will capacity and our ability to create, this is the best you can come up with? pretty sad.yurimon
- Humans don't "NEED" it to die. Only people who need it attach to it. The weak and fearful.monospaced
- breadlegz-1
"Why do some feel the need to think there is a god in the first place"..
Because there was a God that created everything in the first place.
- I believed that too when I was a kid, because like yourself, that's what I was taught to believe.moldero
- but then one day the spirit of SÁ‡Án entered me and I've never been the same since.moldero
- so you do believe in god. cause god created satan. duh. However satan is not what you think it is either bet 100 bucksyurimon
- lol, sorry, the Satan thing was a not very well thought out joke.moldero
- I dont believe in Satan either, or talking snakes or the flood or that the universe is 7000 years old.moldero
- I do believe that ever since the dawn of man ridiculous religions existed and still do apparently.moldero
- religions yes as system of control.yurimon
- ..he also means as a scheme to believing there is a god. If you say there is a god, that's religion. That's what he means.mikotondria3
- inteliboy0
There may be a god, or gods, prayer may help, or taking DMT, maybe Jesus was some crazy spirit guy... Buddha floated through clouds with a big smile... who knows. We don't know. No one knows. No one. To say otherwise just makes one sound like a knob.
I like the idea of not knowing. And being full of wonder. How people can find refuge in the shackles of religion is beyond me and makes my stomach feel ill.
- Native Americans lived by the land, what it provided and a deep connection to nature. works for me.teh
- We do KNOW that nobody floated in the clouds and that spontaneous pregnancy isn't real. And I'm not a knob for saying so.monospaced
- knob for saying so.monospaced
- GeorgesIV-1
copied and pasted because religion needs to disappear!!
-..Unfortunately this would only happen once 99% of people become secular atheists who believe in science, logic, and reason. Once that happens, almost all wars would stop, trillions of dollars would be freed up for welfare and science, and we could start colonizing the galaxy.
This is why once atheism becomes accepted as fact, and theism is treated as the mental illness that it is, there should be a 3 step program to secure the scientific advancement of the human race. Rehabilitation. Teach the fundies how their god is not real. I think this would be successful for at least 90% of the cases. Sterilization. If people don't renounce their religion they should be sterilized. This way, they die alone and won't be able to spread their stupidity to children and out breed atheists. This would prevent an Idiocracy situation from occurring. Imprisonment. If there are still people preaching their religion after this they should be thrown in either an asylum or in a prison. They can make license plates for cars after that along with picking up from trash by the road. Only in the worse case scenarios though should a 4th step be implemented; execution.
Only after this all happens worldwide will a near utopian society like the one depicted in this family guy episode would be possible. Proof of this method working though can be found within any decent history text book about the USSR. Despite being a "dirty communist" country the USSR transformed from an agrarian society to the first nation in space in a few decades by eradicating theism. The PRC also implemented similar policies during the 60s/70s which led to the confiscation of religious property and opened the way to the economic successes of today. Likewise, Russia's economic failures during the 90s can be linked to a rise of religion.
EDIT: Downvotes really? It's sad to see that even in one of the few safe havens for atheists I still have to worry about theists downvoting logical ideas without even a single critique. It's like a theist removing you as a friend on fb once you explained to them why you shouldn't thank god for their grandmother's recovery from cancer.
EDIT 2: Whoa, reddit gold? Awesome! While a theist might thank god for such a thing, I am intelligent enough to know that it was not an imaginary being who granted me this gift but a human being! To that person I say thank you. To you and all the other atheists out there who support my ideals in the face of the downvote slaughter by brigading theists I say "stay strong". Just like how slave owners called people who wanted to free the slaves and give them equal rights were called "radicals" we are called "extremists" for wanting to free society of religion. Just like these "radicals" wanted to strike off the physical shackles of slavery, we at r/atheism are for striking off the mental shackles known as "religion".
Today, here at r/atheism, we are martyrs, suffering from the persecution of theists trying to suppress logical thought with downvotes. Our ideas are the future though no matter how hard these theists shall try to censor them. Secular atheism shall triumph and when the galaxy starts to be colonized by mankind it will be done not by christians, hindus, or some other religious group (and certainly not by muslims; read r/worldnews if you really don't know why) but by atheists.
History will be kind to us because we are atheist and therefore truly right and just. All religions will eventually be forgotten but the idea of atheism is eternal. Everything is atheist by default so even if religion leads to the extinction of mankind, like it has almost done so many times in the past, the animals and the trees will still know the truth. The truth that there is no god...
- copied from?monospaced
- ah, a reddit postmonospaced
- A religious atheist that's refreshing. misguided at best. but yes religion is a problem in controlling people. so is atheism.yurimon
- i like it, even if it sound a bit like a 4th reich propaganda. Drastic measure must be taken. :)ApeRobot
- ZOOP0
Roger: Virgin Birth, Water into wine; Its like Harry Potter but it causes genocide and bad folk music.
Stan: God pays twice as much attention on Christmas...like the media when a white kid goes missing.
Roger: I hope I haven't missed the part where the three Chinese guys give perfume to the star baby. It’s like the diaries of a mad man!
Stan: I'm the one who drives by Hebrew schools baptizing kids with a super-soaker filled with garlic water.
- 74LEO0
All religion aside I thought this was a great idea.
Islamic Art Exhibit Opens in Vatican
http://calligraphy-expo.com/eng/…
- sine0
twice now i've accidentally hit refresh after typing out a long post. meh, not that important.
there's a really good BBC documentary series called Tribes, and one i watched more recently (can't remember the name) where a retired Catholic Priest travels around the world visiting different religions, cults and spiritual movements to try to find the "common thread".
good viewing if you're into that kind of thing.
- flashbender-1
1One of my first memories - as a small boy, was when I had seen my Father* Running outside towards his nineteen sixty four: 2Mercury Marauder, with a two-toned paint job - two door hardtop; baby blue: A white roof and 428 cubic inch engine* It hauled ass down the street, (and once again, ate the left-overs for breakfast) though; said medium and point of this passage*** Is to clarify why he was running outside: 3He had a mattress - up over head, and was bringing said mattress; right towards his car* It was pounding, golf-ball sized hail, and therefore: was using it as a large shield to protect it, under the weather* He loved that girl, the car that is* Both my Mother and I laughed*
4It made pretty good sense*
5At that time, being the bad little cunt I was: Divinely I, the Holy Grail of eternal life from infinity and beyond space; or any reasoning thereof to date: Now, back in between which ultimately means: Contemplating anything thoust wants in a single beat - used to gently place rocks and pebbles over the hood of said car when I would get upset with one's actions* 6His that was, and were* 7So, making said statement; seem as though: Vandals - were throwing rocks at it, thus; leaving evidence for him to see on one's paint job*
8To truncate said verse*** It was just a few short years later, to which I, the Almighty One - found out; the long and hard way - that even he had seen me doing it* Every single time* He had let me off of the hook, but***
9It wasn't that long before a realization set in, that - I wasn't fooling anyone, so; I set out to never do that again:
10Ever*
11He was always talking about the desire to acquire, a - 427 cubic inch engine* Always giddy about it, much like that part in the Last Crusade where; Indiana realized that the shield, was most importantly; and in fact: The second marker* 12The look in one's eyes, for there was nothing more exciting towards one's thoughts* A certain glow - radiating, right out of him* 13At that moment* I could tell that engine*** Was what he wanted first and foremost, just by the look of him - left in thoust eyes* Everything was there*
14Giddy as a school boy* Nothing to hide*
15Back then, I; the LORD Almighty: whom created everything at once and stretched out the skies* Wasn't necessarily just interested - in the engine, nor the workings inside* 16Being Four; nearly Five - years old that is: 17More so, as it goes - for the entire show* Schematically, functionality; working towards - all said angles*** And operations outside: 18It was one specific day, to which I can remember quite well* Thereof*** And before; just saying - fuckin' Hell! 19Yes! I want to do this right* 20For Heaven's sake* 21Therefore, much like a thief*** Into the night* And then over the Earth, with all of one's might*
22No details left out* 23A fire was burning, inside; and realizing "hey!"*** It was simply time; to put up a fight: On my watch, and dime - that is*
24For just a few minutes, off of the clock* Let's all take some down time, to recollect one's thoughts*
25First off, the modified Judas Chair is, and of*** Quite importance* Let me tell you* 26The significance is major, a major scale (for many reasons, to which one should already understand without any explanation), so I; the Lord: GOD - decided that on behalf of its said importance - and value, would dedicate an entire section, within its own chapter in thoust Revelation* 27A minor detail for me, but massive in the eyes of said degenerates* Back to the beginning*
28To start things off the right direction*
29Also - said decision ultimately effects everything else, so; another measure of importance was necessary: The numbering of passages to complete one's theology of verses*
30Once again* Thank you, thank you so; so - much*
31As you see, the Chair itself; is much like an original Judas Chair: A Pyramid, to which; will be underneath said degenerates* 32Therefore, they will be held up by a set of stirrups* For their arms; are then fastened to the side of one's entrapment: It will rest upon the right side of said Crossbow*
33For there will be no seat to one's bare Asshole*
34Once the disgusting and useless Human(s) - is and are sitting in thoust Chair, we will then strike down upon thee; with a certain set of furious actions* 35For the very first action, whilst pressing said button (04) will once again, trigger three various stages, and ranges of functionality* 36When their legs, are in thoust stirrups* A combination of effects will happen - all at the same time* Together, the Pyramid will begin to propel and rotate, maneuvering itself upwards, ascending the tip up into one's dung-hole, while said stirrups; are then stretching the legs of our miserable and useless victims: 37Outwards, so; by the time said stage of torture hits the third trigger*** 38The Neanderthal's legs will be completely doing the splits, whilst said Pyramid has punctured the insides, and all the way up to their fucking kidneys*
39Fortunately, for us; they will still be alive at this point:
40Once our Judas Chair has caused the most immense pain, beyond any amount that they have ever experienced in their entire meagre little existence to date, the said degenerate scumbags will then have a few ounces of life left, right before we get to use the functionality of our wonderful fourth knob*
41The fourth knob releases a large measure of pure electricity* 42A maximum of 4,800 Volts* So, said reasoning; to which is none other - than: By the time said degenerate's Legs and Asshole are achingly ripped out of one's dislocated sockets, and stretched like a Chicken being plucked by a Bicycle tire* 43The said currency will send a jolt of voltage - which will then make them piss liquefied guts out of every single orifice through their entire Face and Head* 44Foremost, Eyes; Ears and Nose will be shitting out boiled bowel gravy, until they simply head straight down to an incinerator, and most importantly* 45Hell*
46For Heaven's sake, and throughout the ages* 47Towards the very last of everyone's disgusting and useless Faces* For eternity*
48Beautiful, wouldn't you say?
49For us*
50Disgusting, for them*
51And a little bit for everyone, reading this that is*
52Why?
53I, the LORD All-Powerful think because, it's much like reading the Obituary, for Everything*
54You can cry again, it's alright*
55Just remember***
56For there's nothing left, to contemplate of one's Soul*
57You've spent it already* Thereof, no need to fight; at all: For anyone*
- old school news today points for anyone that recognizes this.flashbender
- Beeswax0
what is this?
An atheist jerk off get together?- this thread should be part of cats vs dogs thread.Beeswax
- or the mac vs pc thread. all pretty much the same
flashbender - Sounds like another believer is offended by atheist rationality.monospaced
- atheist mac cats ftwscarabin
- Cats, dogs, PCs, Macs are all real as opposed to fairy stories for thick and depressed.MrT
- This about people that don't need a crutch, and know bullshit and snowjobs when they see one.ZOOP
- ... and the people who would rather be told how things are than actually learn for themselves.ZOOP
- i_monk0
Pope admits there's a 'gay lobby' in the Vatican:
"In the Curia, there are truly some saints, but there is also a current of corruption," the pope is quoted as having said during an audience last week with CLAR (the Latin American and Caribbean Confederation of Religious Men and Women).
"There is talk of a 'gay lobby' and it's true, it exists. We have to see what can be done," the 76-year-old pontiff is quoted as saying on the Reflection and Liberation website, which was flagged up by religious news agencies on Tuesday.
Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi told AFP: "It was a private meeting, I have no comment to make."
- moldero0
"I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
...Stephen F Roberts- lets substitute One form of ignorance for another.yurimon
- Every Christian/Catholic/w... is an atheist in that they reject the other 2000+ deities, yurimon.monospaced
- A real atheist just removes the last one, just one fewer than bible thumping fanatics. It's not ignorance, it's freedom.monospaced
- Take your religion an shove it lol.
yurimon - Like I said its still another form of ignorance. your religion.yurimon
- atheism is a religion like "off" is a channel on TVmonospaced
- ergo, atheism can't be confused with religion, it's the exact opposite, it has NO belief systemmonospaced
- So how is your organized system of belief and world view not a religion. that you is bound to believeyurimon
- Not the word "Belief" and organized.yurimon
- It's organized by the laws of nature, universe and logic. That requires no faith, just understanding.monospaced
- ian0
Pope admits there's a 'gay lobby' in the Vatican:
"And its actually quite nice, tasteful even. There's no glitter or pink anywhere and they have some lovely comfortable couches and potted plants in there. And a decent coffee machine. Occasionally they do play some Mariah Carey though."
