Bush Address Tuesday
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- mrdobolina0
sterve, this thread is a vent.
as always, if you dont like it, dont post in it.
- SteveJobs0
mrdob, i don't care either way. i have a life outside of nt. if you want to feed that stomach ulcer that's in the shape of the virgin mary, be my guest... ebay would be so proud
- ********0
jazx is simply pointing out that you are beating a dead horse.
SteveJobs
(Jun 29 05, 07:13)welllll, not really, but I thought this might have been about something he recently said, instead it turned into a generalization party
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Back in the 90s when you came across the atlantic from the UK, it was kinda cool to see the huge billboard with Clinton on it as you went thru immigration at JFK, 'welcome to America - you can get away with almost anything if you have the money', his wry smile seemed to say. At least knowing that the dollar was the bottom line from the top-down was kinda reassuring, even if you did have a problem with the Lewinsky thing.
Now when you see Georgie smirking at you, it just sends shivers down your spine..
- mrdobolina0
There are threads on NT about meeting up for drinks in London and things that I never click on, because they don't interest me.
I suggest you click only on threads that interest you.
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One thing is sure, Bush will go fellas. Time to gear up for the next election. I want to come back to NT when a Democrat wins and see how the table turns.
interesting...
- Anarchitect0
there's absolutely no comparison between European/World views towards Bush and those regarding Clinton.
Clinton was well received here.
Bush would have to be 50km of any populated area.
Even the the most hardcore conservatives here think the guy is an absolute moron, and the US admnistration is an absolute [bad] joke.
And there's also the mentally challenged saying that disliking Bush is the same thing of disliking the US.
- ********0
I'm talking country (government) not people.
- SteveJobs0
political threads interest me when they are constructive, but when i see them spreading hatred, especially toward a nation, i generally like to step in and say something, if you don't mind.
- jDs0
Nicely put in your extended post Tick. I think that Neo-Conservative is a much better term for the current administration than conservatives. My friends, many of whom are conservative on a bevy of issues, are thru the roof with dishonesty and what they see as a wholesale removal of fiscal convervatism from the GOP agenda. Many see the Neocons as willing to spend massive amounts on military contracts for Halliburton and zero on healthcare cost relief for small business.
As to the dead-horse point, true dat. But doesn't the crap Bush was shovelling beg a response to his policies?
Hushing up........
- SteveJobs0
and for the record mrdob, i'm behind you on your bush stance. he needs to go!
- normal0
Jazx: This little nugget may bolster your little op-ed post a little more:
http://www.economist.com/World/n…
It fails to correspond your belief that this was a growing trend during the Clinton adminstration though.
However, it's also good to keep in mind that those at the top of any heirarchy be it politics, business, or even design are often those that draw the most criticism. Granted, often times it's deserved as being at the top of any heirarchy tends to breed arrogance, hubris and ignorance.
- mrdobolina0
when has there ever been a constructive political thread on nt?
- ********0
TheTick and the other guy JdP or whatever, it's true. NeoCoservatism is some serious different sh*t compared to the Conservative viewpoints of yesteryear, even Bush Sr., imo.
One reason, I feel there should be more than two parties, that upsets me the most, not having more than two legitimate choices. That's why I voted for Nader, on principle, even though I knew he was a joker ultimately.
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LBJ - 1968 - Address to the US - Subject Vietnam:
Tonight, we and the other allied nations are contributing 600,000 fighting men to assist 700,000 South Vietnamese troops in defending their little country. Our presence there has always rested on this basic belief: The main burden of preserving their freedom must be carried out by them -- by the South Vietnamese themselves.
We and our allies can only help to provide a shield behind which the people of South Vietnam can survive and can grow and develop. On their efforts -- on their determinations and resourcefulness --the outcome will ultimately depend. That small, beleaguered nation has suffered terrible punishment for more than 20 years. I pay tribute once again tonight to the great courage and the endurance of its people.
There has been substantial progress, I think, in building a durable government during these last three years.
The South Vietnam of 1965 could not have survived the enemy's Tet offensive of 1968. The elected government of South Vietnam survived that attack -- and is rapidly repairing the devastation that it wrought. The South Vietnamese know that further efforts are going to be required to expand their own armed forces; to move back into the countryside as quickly as possible; to increase their taxes; to select the very best men that they have for civil and military responsibilities; to achieve a new unity within their constitutional government, and to include in the national effort all those groups who wish to preserve South Vietnam's control over its own destiny.
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Sounds alot like Bush last night talking about VietNow, I mean Iraq. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss...
- SteveJobs0
"when has there ever been a constructive political thread on nt?
mrdobolina
(Jun 29 05, 07:28)"my point exactly. i see the issue being so many take the focal point away from bush and begin blasted the people for who they voted for. it's not constructive for many reasons, but the biggest that all those words are falling on deaf ears. i mean, what's the ratio of lib to cons on here? 10000 to 1?
- ********0
I wonder what the Fox network has to say about all this?
"Hey! things are great! Saddam is captive! U-S-A! U-S-A!"
Kuz
(Jun 29 05, 06:31)
----------------------------Kuz, you are ignorant if you believe that americans can't see through the bs that's spread across tv screens. We invented massmedia bullshit. Our country was founded on dislike and distrust of politicians.
Just stay focused on Bush and everything will be fine, just fine.
- ********0
nice one uberdesigner. that's so true...
- mrdobolina0
you do know that only about 250,000 americans watch foxnews channel on any given night, right?
- Anarchitect0
so
Americans voted Bush
because they could
"through the bs that's spread across tv screens."
right.