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- discipler0
kes, you are both charming AND mature. *faints
mrdobo, you're not looking around enough. I've popped up in several threads not relating to God lately. :) Guess i have more time on my hands.
spongebob, good points. (Except the Bible actually says the earth is round). The passage you site was an anthropomorphic metaphor ;)
- discipler0
mrdobo, I don't make anyone hear out to be close-minded. I'm just sharing an unpopular viewpoint which many hear do not like and do not want to hear.
And because thru objective research i become convinced of a position on an issue... does not make me close minded, does it?
- ********0
By using "nads" spongebobn I was just trying to talk in a language that Discipler could understand.
I'm open to criticism of Evolution. Shoot. That's how science advances. They're are holes in the HUMAN fossil record for sure, but we have enough fossils of other types of evolutionary steps to tell us how the process works (Dinosaurs - birds, e.g.) We can ASSUME similar processes are at work in human evolution, but it's an working hypothoses.
ID is all about knowing the answer and finding the evidence ot proveit. Prima facia that is NOT a scientific process and calling it one is playing fast and loose. It's just sloppy.
I bvelieve in the process of sceince. I also have faith that their is something divine about our existence here - but the bible ain't nothing but a good story out of many about the human condition.
- mrdobolina0
the thing I don't get about creationism is that it will never be proven right or wrong until the apocolypse, and they do not even try. It is like they have resigned themselves to this belief, case fucking closed.
- discipler0
Tick, thanks for using the "nads" laymans term. It's all clear now.
The problem with assuming that any species mutates from one genome to another is that there is no scientific evidence.
Those who vehemently adhere to an evolutionary model for origins do so without bothering to either take a hard look at some of evolution's assumptions, or to wrestle with the real problems that it faces. They have accepted evolution on the basis of authority, because their professors or academic gurus told them so - a kind of faith... a kind of religion.
No scientist has ever seen a dog become something other than a dog, or vice-versa. Nor does the fossil record suggest this. Louis Pasteur's famous observation, that life only comes from life, has never been disproved. His experiments have already falsified all claims that life originated from primordial goo, but philosophical considerations - not facts, not science - prevent this from being accepted by evolutionists. So, which model of origins requires more faith?
Tick, there's a bit more to the Bible than a good story about the human condition. ;)
- moural0
Posting in these threads is a waste of time, but since I have time today...
If you guys read two books with two different opinions, the one you agree with would be wonderful, while the one you disagree with is utter crap, no matter the writing or research. I swear, for as many liberals are here, you people sure are close-minded.
While I generally disdain discipler for his evangelical attempts and mono-thread postings, he does have a point. Whenever he posts, it's "you're an idiot, stop believing that crap". Because your 7th grade teacher told you, or your wonderful new national Geographic said so, he's wrong? Both of you need to stop being so rooted in your Christian or Anti-Christian ways. You don't have to be an atheist to be an intellectual, but it sure as hell seems like you have to be atheist to be a smartass.
Get off your high horse, because with the posts in these threads, none of you make a very convincing argument for the intellect of the human being.
- mrdobolina0
do you believe that a whooly mammoth and a elephant are related?
how about a sabre-toothed tiger and a modern tiger?
- spongebob0
why can't we have discussions without flamings?
does insulting others increase the amount of 'right' in you?
i think both sides have their points, but at least discipler bothers to elaborate carefully enough, answering darn near every question while the other side is generally throwing mudpies without direct answers.
- discipler0
moural, I can appreciate where you are coming from, but I don't come around here starting threads and evangelizing. Rather, I respond in already-started discussions and I try to be very specific in reply to the objection being raised. This site is a hotbed of political and philosophical discussion so it seems inconsistant that I should be singled out. Also, this particular issue is a hot topic across the nation right now.
"you're an idiot, stop believing that crap" - i have never belittled anyone like that here. I try to be as respectful as possible.
- mattyd0
dude, teh internets has go to go. im fucking sick of it.
- discipler0
I sure do, mrdobolina. Those are examples of microevolution and adaptability. Not one species becoming another species.
- ********0
I am not anti-christian (I was raised Catholic, so I guess yeah that does make me anti-christian in the US). I do not own a high horse. I do not own a low horse. I own no horse of any kind in fact.
But why, in the most christianized nation in the entire world do christians claim they are prejudiced against? By whom? The majority of people in this country proscribe to some set of christian derived beliefs. Who is doing the persecuting exactly?
Now the Tutsi's in Rwanda getting hacked to pieces by the Hutu's were being prejudiced against as a minority, but christians in America? Jews in hitlers germany, absolutely. Come on..christianity in america in danger? ..it's a fucking joke. It's a power grab by weak minded insecure people who wouldn't know what religious belief is if it smacked them upside the head with a giant set of wookie nads.
- spongebob0
You don't get a cog from having a cat hump a dog.
something made me say that.
- SteveJobs0
the amount of ignorance abounding in this thread is staggering.
i support gladdis and her initiative. and along with it, i say ban pants as well!
pants are dumb!
- mrdobolina0
so you believe in evolution, then? but only to a point?
- discipler0
Tick, I spit my drink out at "giant set of wookie nads".
oh, you can't hear me.
- discipler0
microevolution (adaptability). Not macroevolution, which science does not observe.
- moural0
I'm not saying you act like that discipler, I'm saying the others do. For as intellectual as they claim to be, they sure don't come off that way.
I'm not saying Christians are persecuted like that. In fact, they're not persecuted at all. My point is that whenever one says something, the response is not in rebuttal, but rather instead how idiotic it is.
- mrdobolina0
have you observed creationism?
- discipler0
hehe, I've observed evidence that would suggest there is a cognizant designer behind our world for the reasons i cited above. :)