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- liquid0
why do all christians get grouped into the whacko group when someone does something like this...
no...I dont agree with it....
but you dont see message boards light up when people are spray painting people who wear fur....
I mean both sides have their whackos but the most apparent thing is that the media likes to make the christians look worse...
- mrdobolina0
you don't understand how the eyeball works, so it must be designed by a higher power then?
Could it be that there are things that humans just haven't figured out yet?
- ********0
I don't understand how my car engine works anymore. God must've made it. Or Allah.
Dark ages people, I'm telling you...
- discipler0
No one is saying they don't understand how the eyeball works. What we posit is that the manner in which it works demonstrates it is the product of design, not random mutations.
- discipler0
Tick, we understand how it works... which is why we conclude it was designed. :)
Your car engine didn't come into being because a car parts factory exploded and it assembled the engine perfectly in the air and landed in your car. No, it was designed.
- discipler0
and on a side note: a single strand of DNA is far more complex than a car engine. ;)
- mrdobolina0
ahh, the neverender.
- mrdobolina0
my point is because you dont understand how something was created, it must have been created by a god.
which is your option.
but when it starts creeping into science books, my option is to get pissed about it.
- unfittoprint0
you don't understand how the eyeball works, so it must be designed by a higher power then?
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mrdobolina
(May 19 05, 09:35)that's exactly how the obscurantist mind works: 'I don't understand, I shouldn't understand it. It must be the work of Zeus'.
- liquid0
there is a window where we will be able to look at each other...
I will be waving at you.....smiling....
- discipler0
No, I'm saying that molecular machines like the eyeball and the bacterial flagellum do not demonstrate random chance, but intelligent design. So my conclusion: an intelligent designer created the universe.
What should piss you off is that our children are being taught a Darwinian model of origins as though it were fact.
- liquid0
whoops wrong thread
- discipler0
ok again... we DO understand how said objects work. Simply saying that they demonstrate a designer, not random chance.
- liquid0
discipler..... just give it up....your gonna give yourself heartburn
- discipler0
hehe, i actually enjoying these discussions, man. I smile the whole time. :)
- BonSeff0
oh discipler?
then how can your view be taught as fact, when it is based on faith?
- mrdobolina0
we are in america, where church and state are separate. would you think it were a good idea that we take a muslim model and start teaching in health classes, that you should never shake a man's right hand?
why should one religion take precedence over another in state-mandated textbooks?
when there really is no absolute proof that either religion is right or wrong.
- discipler0
I'm not saying it should be taught as fact. I'm saying it should be taught as an (at the very least) equally viable theory of origins along side the darwinian belief. And let the students decide based on what science observes.
- discipler0
mrdobo, religion shouldn't.
I'm saying good science should be taught. Look at what science observes and teach it. Forget about the connection to Christianity.
Side note: there are ID people who are not Christians.
- mrdobolina0
so, using that logic.
every religion's view on creation or the beginning of times should be taught as well then? or just yours?