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- Mal0
Chrisianity is a cult, a MAN made invention
- discipler0
mrdob, you'll note that I do not start these threads. Somone else ALWAYS does... I, then see some objections and try to address them. Then you and the other couple of regulars jump in and start the bashing.
Isn't that always how it goes?
- mrdobolina0
//poor you, you guys are always under attack.
- Dr_Jay0
"...and I will show you a misunderstanding of how to read the Bible"
Damn it... that's where I went wrong. I wasn't obeying YOUR rules about the Bible.
Mr Dob... I actually think there's a verse in the bible about actionscript. It prophesied the coming of Joshua Davis. Or maybe I wasn't reading it properly?
- Mimio0
What you're calling a plurality I'm calling a contradiction. Faith, superstition, or supernatural beings should never factor into a dicussion about reason or logic.
- discipler0
mrdob - issue dodged again.
- mrdobolina0
I bet you are a real wild man at parties!
- discipler0
Mimio, how do you apply the finite and flawed realm of human logic/reason to an infinite being? That's what Charles Taze Russell tried to do and ended up starting the Jehovah's Witnesses.
The limitless nature of God cannot be fully apprehended. That's why he's God and we are not.
- discipler0
you say that all the time, mrdob... and yes I am, but only when wearing the Gorilla suit and TuTu.
It's been fun and unproductive as usual guys, g'night.
*smack
- mrdobolina0
"The limitless nature of God cannot be fully apprehended"
So basically, this can be applied to anything in the "perfect book" that doesnt make sense then?
- mrdobolina0
I asked you twice if you have ever participated in any discussions besides religious ones on NT and you never answered me with a yes or no. and I am dodging the issue?
- goingpublic0
We will never fully understand the bible, if we could, we would be God. I experience Jesus/God in my everyday life as a 'personal friend' and that's what matters. It's called 'faith' anyway, we're not talking about math (and even then we can't understand everything ;) ).
I just dare you to dare God to proove to you that He exists (I don't know if this is correct english...). Once you experience Him, all of a sudden these discussions become 'small details'. Not that I'm saying you don't need brains to be a christian but it's more than that...
- mrdobolina0
I dare god to prove to me that he exists...
- abizzyman0
Dude, I don't go to bible forums and strictly talk about actionscript.
mrdobolina
(Apr 7 05, 12:08)
---------------hehe... +1 for dobby.
As far as the Bible goes - arguing over it is probably one the world's oldest past times.
- Mimio0
It's a flawed logic spiral when you start inventing faith and interpretations to explain articles of faith. Also, if something cannot be comprehended, why record it and attempt to commnicate it, and why give it some implicit value? That's just plain foolish.
- cookie0
discipler. Really great responses there. Not getting (too) caught up in the emotion and really kickass responses. Loved it. Have been reading them all day at 'work'.
- eficks0
whats the deal with christadelphians
- ********0
Hello again disciple
Ok, first of all this statement:
“Scholars as well as lay-people have practiced it for years... hence, the strength and proliferation of intelligent Christians and Scholars. Sure sounds just like some neo-humanist cop-out rhetoric on your part there. I’m amazed at how it is acceptable for you people to launch biting attacks at Christians and the Bible, but you cannot tolerate it when an intelligent Christian provides answers to such common and old objections. It’s so one sided, so hypocritical”
Not sure exactly what this is referring to. The “strength” and “proliferation” bit I strongly disagree with. Since in 18 years of formal education (not to mention the 22 years of personal engagement with the world) I have never come across the vitriolic arguments that are as obsessive as yours in trying desperately to prove Biblical truth. Never in fact, until you reared your head on NT. But this is all a secular conspiracy right? (come to that in a bit).
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- thejumpoff0
Jesus is big business in America
multi billion dollar worth
how can you not believe?
- ********0
Secondly, what exactly is a neo-humanist? A humanist and then a neo-humanist? I have merely sought reason and logic. It is interesting how, in order to justify your marginal and minority position, you need to create some sort of conspiracy theory waged against Christianity. I say marginal since, as I pointed out, I have never come across people of your ilk during my whole life in education, nor during my cursory glance yesterday at some leading Encylopedias. Your misuse of the words “secular” and “humanist” and invention of the word “neo-humanist” says more about you as a person than highlighting some actual academic argument.
Thirdly, I would wholeheartedly tolerate an intelligent position on common and old objections. My intolerance is the lack of intelligibility in your entire discourse. It seems wholly contrived, immensely selective, and reliant on ambiguity.
But to address some of the actual issues you raised....