barcelona... who else?
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- paraselene0
phoo. i want to leave the office! everyone else has... damn my sorry luck!
- paraselene0
cap?
cap?
are you still there?
*looks over shoulder, wild-eyed, wringing hands
- CaP0
yep?
still here, hon.
damn my luck.
- paraselene0
i din't actually have anything to say. just whining.
i've decided to bugger off. i'll make the time up next week.
a10
- CaP0
noooo...
so i'll be the only one whining here....
well, since i'm alone at the office i've just put NIN in. speakers loud.
there are parts of the equation missing here, though.
- shaft0
I just feel better when a barcelona thread is up.
bump*
- ********0
stop off for two months during turn of the century. stayed near the port on Las Ramblas. Lot of fun then. a bit of racism towards an Indian friend of mine, but it was still super fun
- shaft0
BTW, What are the salaries there? I hear €1K/mo is considered quite good money and I wish you luck finding a tiny studio apt. below €800.
- zaven0
salary are pretty low in spain... life is actually cheap but rent are high...
- shaft0
I met Austrian people in BCN. They let their Vienna apt. for €400/mo and thought it was quite expensive. When they arrived in BCN they realized it wasn't at all. After 2 months of searching they found a 3 bedroom (1nice, 2 small and dark) apt for around €850. It's not the nicest place, but they stick to it because it is a bargain, they say.
- CaP0
mmm...yes, housing is now one of the biggest problems in spain. prices have gone up in a ridiculous way. the goverment is taking measures, so it's ment to be cheaper (or controlled, at least) in the immediate future.
*crosses fingers*
- shaft0
"the goverment is taking measures, so it's ment to be cheaper (or controlled, at least) in the immediate future."
Now this is scary. I bet government intervention will do more harm than good, but ofc. there will be new workplaces for burreaucrats. But that's what people wanted: socialismo.
Shit, I planned to live there someday..
- CaP0
maybe i was misunderstood. basically, the main reason for this raise in prices is the apparent lack of flats. but the thing is that there are enough flats here, and more are being built, but there's an big quantity of them that are simply empty.
so the result is people having more than one flat in barcelona and not renting them. so the one of the "interventions" will be a raise in taxes for people who have 2 empty flats (and a tax cut if you rent it).
things aren't black/white, socialism/capitalism... there are loads of shades.
- shaft0
Geez.. Forcing people to rent their own property?
I'm afraid the main effect of this new tax is gonna be that people will register flats to their relatives, so each has only one ;)
Building new flats will help a little. I hope these are private, not govt's?
Just take a look at Ireland, flats just as expensive (or a bit more) as in BCN, but people make at least twice as much money. How did they do that? :)