second-hand MP3s
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- aliendn0
rabat that exists? so someone out there has a file out there that i can play in my music player that also alows me to see the lyrics for that song etc all encapsulated in one file? well if that exists, it needs to be more widespread
- warheros0
why would you buy it if you dont like it or dont know or have no idea if youll like it or not?
that's what free downloads are for. then you buy.
- rabattski0
well you getting sued is one thing that for sure is going to happen. but if they're gonna win? dunno. weird things have happened in the past anyways. i still find the whole napster losing quite unexpected to start with.
- ********0
ok rabattski, that's fine. the mp3 thing will not work, because you are not going to be able to prove that the mp3's are so-called 'second-hand'. so does the original artist get a cut of what you are selling as 'second-hand'? Nope. Therefore, the idea doesn't fly. I produce music, I wouldn't want anyone taking sounds of mine and selling them as 'second-hand' think about the artists who makes it. The sites that sell .mp3's obviously give a cut to the artists or labels (creators). It's the system. Digital Jukeboxes are the next craze, because the artists get a cut each time a song is played, etc.
- ********0
aliendn, that software has existed for a long time over at Cakewalk. I'm 100% positive it's patented.
- shotoshi0
Well, we buy stuff 'cos we like it at that particular time but then at some point in the future we may not like it anymore and in that case we get rid of it.
I don't know any people who throw away their unwanted/used/second-hand record collections.
If we don't sell our old records to other people who want them, we give them away to friends (or at least I do)
- ********0
this thread is offensive to me....
please delete it.
- aliendn0
cool, well they should bring it into the mainstream (make the format as common as mp3s), i think it would be an excellent way for indie bands/groups to promote themselves.
- warheros0
stick to yer day job
- ********0
shotoshi, it's a fine idea, but it's not legal, trust me, you'd get sued real fast. :)
- shotoshi0
Question: Do the artists get a cut from sales of second-hand stuff over at eBay?
Answer: No
- rabattski0
jazx:
i cannot prove that i really sold my cd's as well. unless if i use a polaroid camera to document the transaction ofcourse :)
the artists don't get a cut when i resell my cd's as well so why should they when it's mp3s?
i agree, you're ass is going to be sued. but that's what they do anyways, no matter what you come up with.
but give me one good reason why it doesn't make sense? why it's not possible?
- shutdown0
ok so you create a license system for playing an mp3. Something gets coded into the mp3 that registers with that license so only you can play that mp3. Once you "sell" your mp3 your license gets updated disabling you from playing that audio file on your computer.
Doesn't iTunes have some kind de-authorise option or something?
it doesn't stop people buying the tunes, burning them to a cd but thats only the same as someone copying a cd to tape for the car.
- ********0
alien, it's not a bad idea to try and get that into the mainstream, although I wouldn't it put it past Real, MS, etc. There might already be an option for it, but it might depend on the format of what you are playing. The .mp3 format isn't going to be re-invented anytime soon, just look at iPods' popularity. It would be a matter of putting some type of metadata, that could be read by an application, on the .mp3 file.
- shotoshi0
JazX, I'm not so sure I would get sued. But, just think of the publicity if I did!
I have thought of a way this can be legal.
- aliendn0
i will say that i find it surprising that mp3 players are so popular these days when in 2001 it seemed mp3s would not exist period because of the legalities of it all. i think the first mp3 i ever downloaded was manic street preachers "you stole the sun from my heart". prior to that i thought real player was the sheit
- rabattski0
i think shutdown is right. there seems to be a way to include copy data. where you cannot copy it anymore after downloading the mp3. or you're allowed to copy it a couple of times. ofcourse that's gonna be hacked.
- shutdown0
oh and if you offer to pay the labels their royalties they'll love it.
at the moment they get nothing from a second hand market
- shotoshi0
Shutdown, I like your style!
- ********0
