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- ********0
Yo guys
fucks sake
being a designer and a musician ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
OTHERWISE MUSICIANS WOULD BE MINSTRELS TO SOME KING LIKE IN THE OLDEN DAYS - CEPT TDAYS KING IS apple
stop shouting
yeah, because we call them ARTISTS for a reason. ya get me? Like it or not, but fronting an ad (a bit tricky when your giving permission for a song you did 30 years ago to be used on an ad) is compromising your integrity. No way would i respect someone who did that. The people, ESPECIALLY hip-hop, are trying to reach out to you. I have this quote ffrom Dead Prez on my wall that would be quite appropriate. Can't remember it. Goes something like "black peopel dont own the music, we own it in its potentiality" and "avaricious capitalists" and "how come they dont show u that shit in the video?" and "Thats why hip-hop is seen as American.It's not African, it's roots, it's American".
Now if those punks did the next Pepsi ad. I would be like, gawd i am so disillusioned. Now who is gonna express my anti-establishment views muscially?
- mrdobolina0
mark
- ********0
young people, remember this if you don't remember anything else
you DO NOT HAVE TO DO anything you don't want to to be anything YOU want
- aliendn0
whatever we all have a difference of opinion on the terms of selling out(rolling stones "start me up" with microsoft is another that one could argue).
but i love how people just hate on a broad term like hip hop. yeah there's a lot of talentless rappers on the radio/tv but they should represent what your opinion of hip hop.
for those that dont like hip hop, thats totally cool, but dont wave your rock'n roll flag like youre on a different level from everyone else. i dont equate chingy, puffy or whatever with hip hop just like you wouldnt want maroon 5 equated with rock or good charolette equated with punk.
if you can't just accept the contradictions of music you're missing out. punk is at the same time one of the most authentic genres ever as well as one of the most pretentious. y'all are musicists, stop discriminating against different forms of music.
- arinya0
Kuz-What I was saying is you are no better than those musiscians that in your opinion sold out. When an oportunity knocks on our door we take it. Now those opportunities can be for different reasons and I think you are grown up enough to see the difference when those actions manifest themselves.
- System-Idle0
i think musicians / Designers are very similar
as is all art that is created or eventually put out as a marketable item.
Do you think musicians arnt told to change thier shit. It happens to most. large record lables are pimping the lot, including smaller lables
- Algo0
Amen arinya
- ********0
umm, designers as artists? now theere's another thread
No, i'm sorry, designers work for a clients. No musicians don't work for a client. Fuck that record company interjecting shit. IT IS NOT THE SAME.
- Algo0
uhhh, yeah it's not the same. Music is by far more extreme and cut throat. And not to mention,harder to make a living at.
- arinya0
Kuz ur a twat.
- ********0
woah arinya. A little hostile. What's the matter - sand in your vagina?
- arinya0
...ur still a twat =)
- ********0
and you stilll have sand in your Vagina? =)
- System-Idle0
sign on the dotted line.............
for 8 years yr ass is mine. YOU WILL PRODUCE ME 6 TOP TEN ALBUMS and if u fuck up !
- ********0
that's still not the same thing as being the face of Armani.
- mrdobolina0
sand in your vagina, HAHAHA
- arinya0
That statement is the closest you've been a valid point.
- Algo0
very true. that pen is a gateway to hell. Our neighbors at the studio signed a lucritive deal 2 years ago with a semi-large label but very supportive. thing is they signed a 7 album deal (kiss of death). Now that they are the biggest underground act around for their genre, they are second guessing their decision. But they look at it from the point of view that relapse gives them full artistic control, which is rare. They aren't really into the whole rok-star thing but it's happening to them whether they like it or not.
- ********0
arinya, hunny, just fuckin calm down yeah? if u did, maybe you'll realise we're more in agreement than u think.
Here, try this:
- System-Idle0
sure, i agree, but i was talking about the similarities between musicians, designers etc. with most of them, someones making a load of cash out of someone else