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- Blofeldt0
I hate to be the one to piss on your chips here
I agree that the layout is nice and makes a nice juxtaposition between the child solders and their aspirations.However, if they're freedom is worth fighting for are you fighting for it? If not they your piece suffers from hypocrisy.
Also, if the quotes from the kids are real...OK, but if they aren't then I think it lets the piece down. It becomes exactly what you are trying to highlight. You are using the children for your own ends, to champion a design piece, for which the cause, you do not fight for.
- ********0
I think it looks good and it's most definitely a strong enough subject, they're morons if they think it isn't. I live in Africa for nearly 4 years in total and saw this shit going on in Angola and part of Mocambique and Zambia. Give or take young bucks with AK-47's and other former Sino-Soviet lethal accessories. I'll never forget I met this kid they had de-denotating land-mines on the border of southern Angola and northern Namibia. He was in this rebel gang outfit of the late Jonas Savimbi's UNITA, the foe of the MPLA (Movimento Popular da Libertação de Angola). Fucking crazy sh*t!
- moxiedog0
there's hypocricy in most things us designers do. Advertisng a brand we've never used for example.
The important thing in what these guys were doing is the message was important.
Just designing the piece is fighting for the feedom in a way, as it informs & educates others.
But even if they do not actively support the cause, does it really matter? Surely getting the message out there is most important and is what graphic communication is used for?
- winter0
maybe we're going off track here.
of course it is important but it has nothing to do with design.
of course design can be used to make statements, but honestly it always looks easy (to me) when it does. and what JazX doesn't tell is that this children grow inside communities where manhood is acquired by war. Probably, if you're to ask that boy if he wants to be a doctor he replies: "WTF! i want to be a warrior!". It's a real problem because there are 2 worlds colliding and the appeal of the western ways clashes the tribal universe. It is a technical problem and there are organisations on the field trying to mend things: schools, etc. but they are still Western Schools. That's what rebels fight too, because they understand they their old world is about to crumble away to a dangerous world of money and technics where they all start handicaped. like in Iraq.
but this has nothing to do with Xrtions piece being rejected. Not a nice job.
- ********0
it's part of the job dude..if you can't take rejection then find a new line of work
- k0na_an0k0
it's part of the job dude..if you can't take rejection then find a new line of work
imp
(jul 9 04, 10:12)==
nice post captain obvious.
- ********0
thanks captain jackoff
- brandelec0
nice post captain obvious.
k0na_an0k
(jul 9 04, 10:13)ahahaha
- ********0
and it's really bad form to cry about this shit in public
- ********0
Lol!
- BonSeff0
because children all over the world wanna be ballers, shot callers, 20" blades on the impala
maybe the rejected it because you took african and eastern kids and dropped westernized professions on them and went buck-crazy with the highlighter markers.
- k0na_an0k0
thanks captain jackoff
imp
(jul 9 04, 10:14)==
no problem captain takes everything too seriously. well, i'm going back to work with cries over everything man and take it easy boy. cheers.
- jevad0
classic k0na
- Xrtions0
"However, if they're freedom is worth fighting for are you fighting for it? If not they your piece suffers from hypocrisy."
yes, i believe i am help fighting for it. by creating a piece of artwork that would be seen by 30 000 people [their distribution #], then i can say i am making a difference. even if ONE single person, gets inspired from the piece and calls one of the organizations i mentioned in the last column, that i would say i have done my job. exposing the problem and trying to make people aware of whats happenin in their world, i think is a good thing.
someone else posted if the quotes were from actual kids, and yes they were. they were taken from the United Nations website.
regarding the comment about how the child would possibly want to be a warrior... I would have to STRONGLY disagree. the circumstances in which these children are forced to become warriors is sickening. Rebel warriors come into the small villages and kill the families of many of these kids and recruit them at a young age. in the armies, they are the victims of physical and sexual assult. It's also very common for the kids to be given cocaine. the reason for this, is the make them "fierce warriors."
maybe these kids are ignorant to the ways in which we dream about wanting to play in the NBA or being an astronaut, but given the same opportunities, i think they would be just like you and me.
- -leah-0
ha ha kona strikes again!
*waits for next funny kona post
- nosaj0
1st off I wanna say I really dig your site and most of the work on it. I can't say this piece does much for me. The message is a little too obvious... it's sad and all, but... I also don't find the execution of the concept particularily strong either. It looks how I would 1st envision it if you had described the concept to me, but not refined... It doesn't messure up to the other work on your site.
- k0na_an0k0
ha ha kona strikes again!
*waits for next funny kona post
-leah-
(jul 9 04, 10:46)==
uh... i got nuthin. sorry.
- brandelec0
shock me, don't just educated me
- ********0
maybe these kids are ignorant to the ways in which we dream about wanting to play in the NBA or being an astronaut, but given the same opportunities, i think they would be just like you and me.
Xrtions
(jul 9 04, 10:44)absolutely, human nature. those kids are born and breed to fight for their lives in everyway. some know nothing better therefore, fighting and cutting off arms just comes natural. stonings and shit go on a lot in the big A.
- zedvox0
i like the concept of the piece.
even the design is nice.
the copy however isn't
instead of imposing the western ideals of a child ( nba, doctor, astronaut) why not simply state.
i want to be a child.
all i want is my childhood.
I want my childhood back.pigeonholing these kids ambitions to nba, medicine, nasa and all makes it about how these kids can truly achieve happiness thru the western ideals. which is what the rebels/terrorists use to advance their agenda.
you also mentioned you got those quotes from the UN site...i looked and couldnt find them can you plz link it. thanks.
i hope what i said made sense.