living in amsterdam
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- roboteralarm
hello!
i think about moving to amsterdam. i was there 20 times or something. but allways as a tourist. so..how is living in amsterdam? how junky is it? how criminal is it? how is the current job situation? how expensive is the city?(.. flat rent, veggie burgers, shaving foam?)would you give me at least ONE motivating argument to move from germany to the netherlands, please? (and i don´t mean the high grade! ..got that on the map already :))
thank you,
roboteralarm.
- laurus0
I lived in Amsterdam until 9 months ago. I've also lived in Germany (Göttingen) and in NYC and Buffalo in the US.
Amsterdam is expensive, dirty, touristy, unsafe and boring.
In general, Holland is much like Germany but without the good things.
Germany and the US are much nicer to live in, at least from my experience.
- roboteralarm0
--In general, Holland is
--much like Germany but
--without the good things.i was hoping for:
much like Germany but WITH ALL the good things...where to go? idaho?
- laurus0
NYC
- roboteralarm0
ugh...don´t got the balls for NYC. definitely..
- fingercore0
What balls does it take to live in New York?!? This city is safe.
- roboteralarm0
hm..heard stuff of planes crushing into buildings...
- fingercore0
Yeah, that stuff happens on a daily occasion.
- roboteralarm0
that´s what i thought!
no NYC is a bit far for now. gotta stay connected to my family for some reasons for the next couple of years..
so i thought about the netherlands...
- fingercore0
I've always heard really nice things about Amsterdam. I may take a vacation there this summer.
I've heard it to be clean, safe, people are friendly, food is decent, etc.
- shone2370
if you like to visit it so much,then its probably worth checking out. I think everyone is going to have very different opinions on it. Much like in the US., some people love LA some NYC.
- rabattski0
i've live in amsterdam for 15 years. moved to berlin. was the wisest decision i ever made. like said before amsterdam is too expensive, boring, too many tourists and extremely dirty, way too many junkies and dealers as well. going there as a tourist is nice because it's temporary. living there is a totally different thing. i wouldn't go there. prolly won't move back to amsterdam as well.
- roboteralarm0
-if you like to visit it so
-much,then its probably
-worth checking out.yes, maybe I will have to spend another weekend in amsterdam to decide whether or not I would like to live there.
I only have to find out the cost of living there..
- roboteralarm0
thanks rabattski! that´s not what i wanted to hear but what my question was all about. for a weekend i can accept or just ignore a lot of stuff. i just hoped if you live and work there it is possible to avoid to go to tourist or junk areas just like in berlin. i just don´t have to go to the kuhdamm on a saturday to buy my bread and cornflakes..
- rabattski0
well thing is. you do have local area's which are much more acceptable and nicer. where you can shop for daily living. area's like de pijp or a part of the jordaan and some west and eastern parts. but amsterdam is ridiculous small so you're bound to hit the center all the time. rent wise it is twice, maybe more, as expensive as berlin (if you find anything at all in amsterdam, huge shortage). and going out, pfff, well i'm spoiled in berlin right now, but it's darn cheap here. and going out, amsterdam has gotten quite boring over the last few years. anyways, i used to love amsterdam, now it turned into a love/hate relationship because i've seen how a city can be.
- nodh0
What about Paris: expensive, sometimes dangerous, cold and rainy in the winter, too hot and polluted in the summer, but you can have great fun here and girls are gorgeous ... (you can get nice guys as well)!
- WWVC0
Well Im from Holland myself. Been in Amsterdam hunderds of times. I do not like it. Actually i do avoid going there. Its filthy, junkies, fashionvictims, and not exiting at all to say the least.
For myself. I have an appt. in Scheveningen (beach next to The Hague/Den Haag) and a office in the city centre of The Hague itself. Comparing to Amsterdam living standerds in rent and shopping for suppies is 50% down. So affordable and a very inspiring and relaxing atmosphere. Nice people and nice places to go out and stuff. Beach is close. Forget about fucking A'dam, go The Hague. You will love it.
- rabattski0
with all due respect but the hague is also boring as hell. there's not much going on there at night. although it has improved a bit over the last few years. but one thing is for sure being close to the beach makes it all up for that. that is, if you're into beaches.
- solmo0
It is expensive, it is dirty sometimes, jobmarket is bad, housemarket too.
But it is the best place in the world. Man I 'm in love with this city.
But that is maybe because I lived here all my live.
- DutchBoy0
me = dutch as well..
and i say rotterdam is the shiznit for good new media happenings and developments (culturally far more progressive then Amsterdam imo), but if you like coziness and good nightlife you might reconsider.. Amsterdam is still one of the better places to be for (any) food, drinks and getting wankered.
Housing is really a tough biz there and i wish you a lot of luck finding a box to live in during the next ten years or so... but then, anywhere in NL it is hard nowadays to easily get livingspace..
and don't come for the weed, there's plans to completely ban it again in NL.
- rabattski0
well pot was never officially legal in holland, you know gedoogd, but i can't believe they are going to ban it? really? where did you hear / read it or is it one of harry potter's jokes? and you're right about rotterdam though. i think it has a lot to do with the fact that the city of amsterdam is yuppifying all the squad places. more artists move to rotterdam. love that city.