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- ChumleyUK0
I didn't know geeks read newstoday?!
- joyride0
"the bill gates OS is still better than macosx
pc with linux is unbeatable, too bad no after effects and pshop, now that would kill any future conversations about what's better "
What do you think OSX is based on Sporty???
- mograph0
Not linux. It's a customized version of BSD blended with nextstep crap and tons of Apple GUI shite on top that. To bring back the car analogy, it's a ferrari engine trapped in a greyhound bus.
- mr_pants0
cheers rasko. nuff said.
- illroot0
there is one thing that I noticed in the design. while it does have good airflow I didn't see any filters for the front of the case to try and keep dust from settling in the machine. I thought the old G4 machines did a better job of that because i noticed that in the doors of the G4 they put a tube sealing around it to make sure the door sealed well with the case when closed. I thought that was attentino to detail, but with the new G5 it seemed like they just punched a bunch of holes in it.
Am i wrong? this was just from obseservation and not from actually opening up the G5
- pascii0
panther rules.
- XC010
anyone who appreciates aesthetics appreciates macs.
thats why designers love them.
i saw a G5 at the store today it is a fucking awesome piece of work.
I work on a pc at work
and a mac at home.who seriously gives a fuck about speed computers are pretty well kitted up these days.
i just want everything to work efficiently, i have things i like about both, and things I hate about both.i just have a more pleasant experience working on my mac though. because somone has spent the time on all the little details. (which i appreciate) somthing I hope people appreciate the "details" in the work i do.
I think it is very important.
- pascii0
end, it is just a computer. but i talked to a friend of mine who studies informatics (on windows and linux machines), and he said once:.
'i have a iBook at home because i don't want to frickle around'
- pocho0
ask yourself...do you deserve it?
- ribit0
illroot..
principle is the same as the last model.. air goes in the front and out the back...thats why they sealed the door on the G4...to keep the air from leaking out the sides before it had gone thru and picked up some heat.
it will still get dusty...just lie the G4 would have sucked in dust.
- mograph0
"who seriously gives a fuck about speed "
Lol, are you being serious?
- honda0
ok, just talked to my girlfriend. she loves the G5. thinks we should get it. so, it looks like my $2500 is going to be gone after all. so we're possibly looking at about 30days from now to pick one up.
i do agree that the simple fact that it is just a beautful looking machine is what is edging me to get it. can't really deny the fact that apple has made purchasing a computer more of a strategy of visual prowess and usability rather than one of performance gains. most mac users (including myself) get used to slow page loads and ai and ps taking forever to load. hell i can't believe there are flash developers that actually use macs (the best out there http://waxpraxis.org .. maybe i should switch!).
anyway, if only pc cases had the same appeal without the individual having to put so much effort into making their pc dope.
with about 5g's (what i would spend to get G5 and 23" display) I could build a modded pc like the ones on this page: http://www.ak47-modding.de.vu/ (click project links) geez, he even modded the keyboard.
more modded cases can be found here http://www.overclockersclub.com
still, the G5 is very nice looking straight from the factory. not sure about speed or reliability yet. decisions decisions
- dessalles0
sorry about bumping this thread up, but....
"who seriously gives a fuck about speed "
i don't really know what i'm talking about, and i realize that its fun to talk 'dual' this and 'ghz' that. however, does the fact that a computer will load photoshop up in a few seconds less time really worth it.
in short, does a faster computer make you a better designer?
i know motion and 3d graphics are an exception to this, but it doesn't seem many people here are in that game.
i could just as easily spend 10 minutes staring at the wall each day zoning out as i could waste my life away waiting for ps to load.
- XC010
yeah thats right.
i said it.
"who seriously gives a fuck about speed "
when we are talking 2 or 3 seconds difference.
- honda0
that's 2-3 sec per thought per application ... per everything on your machine which equals lots of time wasted just waiting for your computer to think. it means the difference when rendering 3D files or publishing flash movies. the difference between just regular maintenance or whatever. it all adds up.
so yes, speed does matter...or at least it should to many "designers" and developers alike. it doesn't make you better ... it enables you to be efficient. cute is fine but if it can't keep up cute gets ugly. mac or pc.
dollar for dollar, the low end model G5 is somewhat equal to my box here (+- 300bucks). and mine is still faster. granted, the base G5 is far more expandable, but thats big money. i can build on my box for a few hundred more and presto, more power, speed and space.
that being said, the G5 looks really nice. OSX is very nice and user friendly. again, the one demo'd took hella long to open anything. hell even posting to NT took a minute - loading loading loading. shit, couldn't get iTunes to load for a sec. that took forever. btw-NT on a mac doesn't look all that great.
:(question: anyone have an apple display and using it with their pc? curious. i am thinkin of just getting the display and an adapter, then hookin it up to my box. ?? will it work?
- XC010
each to his own.
depends on what you value.I have never discouraged anyone from buying a pc, or told them it was a poor decision after the fact.
I have simply said what I prefer.
NT looks fine on my mac here.
same as on my pc at work.
- arlo0
I love how defensive these people are getting. Like the G5's existence is a threat somehow to their nerdlihood!
People posting stats in 'retailiation' to someone complimenting a computer. Cmon now, we're all in the same game, you should give Apple some nods for ditching those rave-style plastic cases and OS 9. Nobody's forcing you to consider buying one or calling your computer shitty.
- honda0
?arlo have you read the entire post? i'm the one who started the thread. G5 should be in our home in about 30days. its the whole anxious thing thats getting me. all that will change once it is here *crossing fingers*. im elated, but you know, just not so sure about what i am about to do.
really wish there were some tech geeks on here that were apple users. then i can exchange intelligent "nerdihood" conversation from one brotha to the next. they could ease my mind a bit. cmon, its something completely different for me. i know all there is or that can be done to my pc. clueless when it comes to the mac realm. and simple shit like "it looks cool" just ain't gonna cut it. thats obvious. they look great. point understood. thats why i am throwing down the dough to get it.
now help me with the not so obvious: performance. hell, is it true its a tad slow or what? do i need to order one with crazy ram in it? or is 512 ok? 1.6ghz or dual 2.0? geez, at least being a pc user has helped me become more tech savvy. cmon you mac-ster's help a fellow brother of the clothe join the fold. performance?
- arlo0
Honda- I'm all for the G5. I have two windows machines but am an ex-mac guy. I think it's great you're getting one and am sure the photoshop issue in-store is some stupid setting they have for public use in that situation. A friend of mine has an older dual G4 and it is a lot faster than my P4 1.5 ghz. The hardware quality is excellent too. No latency on soundcard, good RAM, good motherboard. I'm paying the price with PC shit by not getting good hardware right away. I have to replace my motherboard, RAM, and processor just to allow the new vid card to work right.
The only concern of mine is Apple's reputation with first round releases. The rule of thumb with them is usually wait until the revised version comes out, but in this case a few of us (ie. you, Honda) have to be the guinea pigs. And you'll probably be a very happy guinea pig. There are no DLLs in osx. :)
- honda0
1. nice site arlo.
2. http://reviews.cnet.com/Maingear… and i thought mac's were expensive. $4000 bucks for that bad boy...and thats a CHEAP gaming system
3. http://reviews.cnet.com/4505-311…
ouch! $5000+ price tag4. this G5 is looking more and more like a good move: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-…