the Congo...WHY?
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- unknown0
yeah and lets put flowers on the moon and everything!
- unknown0
there was a verbal agreement by britain to wipe clean the debt...
itll never happen though
- lowimpakt0
"How can the powerful predominantly christian west allow such an immoral thing to happen? "
i think you mean how could they have created the situation and then washed their hands of it.
what are the underlying values of the 'christian west'? and isnt it one of the smaller sub-groups on the planet.....
i think cannibalism is just an extension of the desperation of the situation. Its a scare tactic.
oh and drop the debt and BUY FAIR TRADE.....
- unknown0
I agree that when the western poweres pulled out of africa, they created a vacum, into which mostly dictators moved into, Idi Hameen (?) Mugabbe (?) etc. but that was a long time ago. Im not sure they created it, but they certainly didnt intervien when maybe they could of / should of.
and when they do, like in Zimbabwae, its normally just to tell the cricket team not to go.
spineless cunts
- ********0
it's a longshot, i know..
but it's complicated..
any burger you buy at McD's sponsors the US govt. which again sponsors weapon lobby (internationally as well...).. oh, France is very guilty in this case as well.
yeah, fair trade..
but we need to collectively stand up and solve the horrific mess we left behind in what as a matter of fact can be a miraculous continent.
- ********0
"spineless cunts"
indeed.
- unknown0
and right on cue folks its the Allstar Armchair Activists blindly spouting their rehashed articles and misguided beliefs with not so much as an original idea, let alone one born from a genuine and rounded knowledge. Free the World!
- pugdawg0
wow, another we hate the US thread, shocker for NT!
- ********0
"Allstar Armchair Activists"
should i take that as an offense?
i'd go walk with a sign, amongst other things!
don't judge too soon, kid!
- unknown0
rasko mate, if you have nothing to contribute mate, feck off.
no offence. Think its a relatively intelligant thread for this place.
- unknown0
nothing to do with america, no ones having a go.
although now youve said it, watch this thread decend
- ********0
nothing hate the US!
read and learn.
we're all in it:
colonialism and it's horrific heritage:
UK
Belgium
France
Netherlandsand the list goes on...
- ********0
for as far I am here I will assure this thread will be moderated.
as for now I feel this debate is good and nescessary to be held amongst professionals who are into communicating the world.
- pugdawg0
no, it always evolves into the Americans fault, just wait.
- lowimpakt0
the creation of the 'situation' cant be attributed to one action or event. All the contributing factors have to been seen in relation to each other. if you study the 'causes' of poverty etc. you can be sure you will be led back to the economic policies of the west. Simply put as profiting from 'keeping them down'.
not to bash american policy (I mentioned the UK/France/German/Russian etc involvement) but they have the worst record of 'nation-building' and installing obedient dictators regardless of how they treat their people. Its not visible direct intervention but intervention all the same.
- unknown0
no offence to you 4cY, I'm just messing.
Sure its an issue as its not yet descended into anti-everything, western guilt.
- unknown0
ok...
I started this thread, because of something I read in the Observer about the situation in the Congo. Which in turn compelled me to watch the documentary last night about the situation.
Not since the pictures of the 84 Ethiopian famine, have I been rederred to tears at something I have seen on tv.
Now if you cant understand how people who have a fuckin concience want to get something off thier chest, about injustices of the world then, dont get involved.
on a nother note, if we were portioning blame, its europe, begium, uk, and france in particular, that the burden rests on.
really dont need some 16 year old flying in with off the cuff comments.
- ********0
in any case Kingkezza: i feel the same.
if you are about to start something.. or have any ideas..
count me in / mail me.
- unknown0
for what it is worth...
- lowimpakt0
also not to offend my american buddies. If i criticise the policies of your government I am not offending you or the american people. How may of you actually voted for bush or feel you have a part to play in the administrations policies?? wheres the 'democracy'. I think patriotism can block the part of you brain that allows free speech. Over here we criticise and bitch about our governments and their policies all the time, its healthy democracy.
If you are to follow that logic then the american administration and it people (and pretty much the rest of the world) are anti the Iraqi people and we all know thats not true.
learn a bit about those who you stand with and question your self on a regular basis...