SAY NO TO WAR!
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- unknown0
"Go back to designing and stop telling our leaders how to run the world. I think they may know just a wee bit more about this than us. "
thats a scary statement Duck.
Imagine the founding fathers of America felt the same way.
You would still be a british colony.
- mitsu0
"Imagine the founding fathers of America felt the same way."
hence them being founding fathers and the rest of you being designers... i agree with him.
unless you guys work in the
media or the government, your arguments are moot.
- unknown0
"unless you guys work in the
media or the government, your arguments are moot."the government works for us. unless we live in a dictatorship then our opinions are not moot.
- safe0
We all just need a little Jesus in our lives. (even osma.)
- vespa0
"Go back to designing and stop telling our leaders how to run the world. I think they may know just a wee bit more about this than us. "
I'd like the British govt to reflect British opinion. That's what democracy is all about. A govt that cannot be questioned is a totalitarian dictatorship.
- solipsist0
JUST FYI
Candlelight March for Peace.
Wed., March 5, gather at 5:30PM
Assemble at Hillary Clinton's office, 780 Third Ave.
(47th & 48th)
BRING: Candles, signs and drums
for more info:
http://www.unitedforpeace.org/ca…
- mitsu0
"the government works for us. unless we live in a dictatorship then our opinions are not moot."
the government works for us yes, but your arguments HERE on NT are moot and solve nothing. if you are so adament about saving the lives of millions of people. quit your job and get involved. protest every day on the streets, not on a design forum.
- bank_side0
Vespa,
that is the first intelligent response I have seen offered as an alternate to the US going to war with Iraq. Of course it is still war in your solution. I think it would just take too long to wait for the Iraqi people to overthrow Saddam. I have no doubt that they could but I think after being let down by us in the past decade it would be very hard to gain the trust back. The US was indirectly responsible for the death of many of Saddam's enemies in his own organization when we failed to back their coupe attempt.
I thinks its ridiculous to assume that the world will sit by and let the US "steal" Iraq's oil. I mean yea will buy it from them and the newly instituted government might even sell us rights to it. But that goes on everyday with free countries around the world.
We can argue about this all day but it really boils down to do you support Saddam or oppose him.
Oh and if I lived under the same conditions the people of Iraq do I would be begging someone to come in and get rid of that monster. If I had to give my life for it then so be it.
By the way have any of you ever actually spoken to an Iraqi? Have you ever heard first hand the horror that goes on there everyday?
You are welcome to hate America if you want but think about Iraq first and put your hatred aside.
- vespa0
Barnburner, you are doing it again. Same link.
Go on, try and express something in your own words.
- safe0
start small go big.
Be fashionable, Protest in your Diesel.
- mitsu0
what in his own words will sway you or any other anti-war zealot on here?
most of you are as bull-headed and stubborn as the US leader you despise.
- Duck0
Democracy is kind of like having a bad client.
Your client wants bevels and drop shadows.
They aren't designers so they don't know what's good design.
So you comprimise.
Could you imagine the world if we did everything that clients wanted us to do?
- k0na_an0k0
"weapons of mass destruction?
then the US should be emassing troops on the borders of every country in the world."pro-
see thats another funny thing. we interject and protect foreign countries and it's because we have 'other interests' (ie. oil as you say). THEN when we say fine... solve the problems on your own you bite off our heads for turning out backs.
is it our job to protect the rest of the world. no. is it however our job to protect ourselves and in turn protect the rest of the world. well if i have to tell you that then i fear i've wasted my time talking common sense in the first place.
it is not about oil.
this is as plain and simple as i can put it.
say... i have a rock. but i won't throw it through the old neighbors windown for fear of someone seeing me or getting caught. so... i give $20 to a thug buddie to throw it through. now this thug buddie who hasn't a care in the world for his life of the lives of those around him walks up to the window at 1pm and throws it through right in the middle of her little tea party. then proceeds to piss on her front lawn.
you catch my drift?!? did you take the pill yet?!?
- unknown0
mitsuhiro yoshioka:
your name sounds Japanese.
If it is, how can you sit here and defend the US government when they dropped 2 nuclear bombs on your country killing 350,000 innocent people in a flash.
your ancestors would be proud of you.
- k0na_an0k0
hahaha. yeah... am i'm pissed cause of that whole irish thing that happened a couple hundred years ago.
- safe0
I suppose all those people the Japanese killed at Pearl Harbour didn't matter?
- safe0
kona, you should be.
ask for reperation.
- silver0
bankside, here are some real stories from Iraquis. http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared…
I find the bbc-site very informative, in depth and neutral. Look around, what do you think?
- safe0
"Gulzar Ahmad is one of more than 100,000 women whose husbands were rounded up by the Iraqi Government in the late 1980s in a campaign aimed at destroying Kurdish resistance to Baghdad, known as the Anfal. Thousands of civilians were killed in poison gas attacks. Others were rounded up and disappeared. "
oh, so Iraq isn't that bad afterall.