SAY NO TO WAR!
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I just thought everyone can express their thoughts on this.
Personally, I think its the dumbest thing ever, makes no sense, but there is a lot of people out there that will follow someone else orders with no question, because the gov, spends a lot of money doing the famous "brain wash". :(
- fits0
SAY NO TO WAR THREADS!
- unknown0
SAY NO TO PEOPLE THAT SAY NO TO WAR THREADS, hehe
- fits0
well if it is going to happen it will happen regardless of how anyone feels about it. a group of 500 protestors in every city can bitch and whine all they want to, but that is not going to make bush go... o wait.. these people do not want war so I think I will just back off. There is tons of crap we do not know ... and we cannot rely on what the media tells us... because its mostly lies. i personally think war is terrible and its a shame that humans have to resort to that.
- Buckyball20
"There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well prepared to meet the enemy."
-- George Washingtonwe report. you decide.
bB
- unknown0
Say YES to VX and Sarin gas! It's a blast at your next birthday party or family get together.
And have a side of Small Pox and a smidgin of Anthrax!
Yippie Hooray for horrible weopons of atrocities!
- kloudman0
We have been at war since 9/11 and before. War is unpleasant and unwanted and we certianly did not want it, but it was brought to us. When they tried to bomb the towers a decade ago we did very little and see what they eventually did. If we would have been stronger before then the tragedy of 9/11 may not have happened.
We did not start this war, we are a convenient enemy for those building power across the world. We use to hate the USSR here in the US, because it was convenient to have an enemy. The same is true now for people who hate the US.
I don't necesarily like how Bush is handling things, but I do feel that the US needs to be stong and decisive. We appear too soft to the rest of the world. They do not respect us when we are weak.
Now you may ask what the terrorist have to do with Iraq. Perhaps they are just a convenient enemy to have right now, or perhaps there is a connection. There is evidence linking Al Queda to Iraq but it is no "smoking gun". There is a ship quietly roaming the oceans that we are tracking that may have weapons and people hidden on it (from Iraq). We just don't know and the government can not tell us everything.
All I needed to see was the photographs of the dead women and children (kurdish) that Saddam gassed to make up my mind that he needs to be stopped. Are we the right people to do it? I see no one else trying to remove him.
There is no easy answer, but none of this is easy or is suppose to be.
Just my opinion.
Michael
- Buckyball20
here, here Mike.
bB
- unknown0
Exactly Mike! Wyrd!
We will not be caught with our pants down again, and we will bring the fight to them!
- unknown0
Who started the war?
that is another subjetc, very different for different people, of course, there is always 2 sides of a story, like it or not.
But does that really matters?
I think that to be brave has nothing to do, with going to war..
We have the power to stop this, and then YES respect is what you are going to have, just look how the rest of the world look at the terrorists.. I dont't think somebody is going to say, yeah.. terrorist are brave, they have my respect.
I think that is barbarian..
I had positives results for cavemans dough..
- unknown0
uuuhhhhh, how many people in the middle east have come forward and denounced terrorism?
Just wondering if you remember seeing women and children dancing and chearing in the streets of Gaza when the towers fell?!! Do you remember that?! I sure as hell do!
- Buckyball20
It's have your cake and eat it too time.
Many countries around the world are disgusted with U.S. policy. Waiting for a joke resolution or more time for inspections from the UN is not going to change that. They won't change their views, with or without bombs.
Proceed with plan A. Drain the swamp. Occupy for indefinite amount of time. No matter what the cost. And then smile while you pay 89 cents at the pump.
bB
- o0o0
Don't sweat this too much miklo... if you search PV-AN you can find dozens of war threads. Most people seem to oppose it... just like the world.
This will just spin in circles.
I agree with you dude. You know the war is wrong. We all do at some level. Don't any war supporter tell you they support the war for moral/humanitarian reasons, or to make the world safer.
We know this will cause more hate, more terror, more death. We gave Saddam money while he was gassing his people. We have no moral ground to stand on.
- Bluejam0
"There is evidence linking Al Queda to Iraq but it is no smoking gun."
What evidence? If it's not a smoking gun then what is it?
"There is a ship quietly roaming the oceans that we are tracking that MAY have weapons and people hidden on it (from Iraq)."
'May' being the important word here...there's no proof either way.
"All I needed to see was the photographs of the dead women and children (kurdish) that Saddam gassed to make up my mind that he needs to be stopped."
How long ago was that? Couple of decades? Thousands of people have died in conflicts around the world, East Timor? Congo? Ethopia? If you are concerned then be concerned for every body, not just those that fit an arguement.
- unknown0
o0o:
I guess we agree..
Its just so sad, watching so many people wnating this to happen..
Fighting fire with fire, will only bring MORE fire..
- Bluejam0
bB
It didn't take the use of force to find the number three Al Queda operative. It took intelligence.
Something they should bring to the table when concerning Iraq. Seems to me the show of force is working whereas the use of force is one big question mark. And if the US (and Tony) really know where the WMD's ...tell the U.N (which is a peace keeping organisation, not a ticket master for war). Seems a like a cheaper, less bloody solution...no back handers to the coalition of the willing (Turkey surprised, mind you!) or bombing money away...
...oh yeah, last week they accounced the average heating bills to be around $1000 in the US. I guess that 89c fuel price can't come sooner enough!
- ********0
i say YES !!!!
make money not peace!
- k0na_an0k0
well... if indeed we are fighting fire with fire then i say we are like forest rangers then,... and we are burning out the underbrush crap and building controlled fires to hinder and eventually put out the fire that rages in the middle east. yeah.... fight fire with fire indeed.
- unknown0
petrol..
that is what all this is about.
- k0na_an0k0
do'nt say that. petrol has NOTHING to do with this. first it's only 7% of the supply, and second if it was about oil don't you think we could have had ALL of it in 91 after desert storm?
hmmmm... we COULD have had so much oil back then but ya know what... it wasn't about the oil and the U.S. wanting it.
- unknown0
yes it is about oil for the French, they don't want to blow their sweet heart deal with the Iraqis.
Thanks to France the Iraqis were close to building a nuke until Isreal came along and said no way!