SAY NO TO WAR!
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- imaletin0
saying no to war doesn't work. because u.s. government doesn't listen. for that matter no government listens. information and civil action is key, when critical mass is reached. anyway i won't waste any time on this, since this thread will disappear very soon anyway, just showing how ready for action we all are in the "trendy designer's online community".
for a better tomorrow.
what irony?
- sf090
pardon the ignorance,
but if usa's going to 'save' the iraqi civils, why has it not (yet?) talked bout establishing new govt and stuff?
make it part of the war deal?i dun really understand ... maybe its not supposed to be understood.
- cajo0
come on give me a break!! There are people like Michael tht say "we dont start this war"... Who did, they? wake up! Your gov is selling guns to this guys since the second world war. your gov was the only gov in this planet who ever used guns of mass distruction (atomic bomb). Your gov arm the talibans, and Saddam. Your gov does not do nothing about the real problem in the middle east (Palestians). Your gov his a toy in the hands of the gun industry owners. Your gov use Asian coountries for children work. Stay home, live the other nation alone, let them solve their one problems. Freedom its a very complex subject that can be interpreted in so many diferent ways. You think you live a free country? Try to open a new politic party with comunist ideals and you'll see how free America is. You are the only ocidental "free" country that still have death penalty. And dont miss understand me, I am not in the saddam side or anything.
"with great power comes great responsability, and jsut because you (USA gov) can hit the world with your army it does mean ok to do it"
- sephil0
no to war
- bank_side0
WAR is horrible. It is probably the worst thing in the world.
But if not war then what? I have not heard anyone offer up another solution to stop the dictators and terrorists of this world from killing. Does any one honestly believe that war would not be taking place in Iraq if the US were not involved? Do you really think Saddam would stop with just taking Kuwait if the world had not gotten involved? Do you really think he would stop killing every single Iraqi that stands against him? The idea of war makes me ill, but sometimes there really is no choice. If anyone can offer an alternative method to rid the world of evil murderous empires please tell me. I will gladly pick up a NO WAR sign and follow you. And please don't respond with more false anti-American statements.
- barnburner0
hey sephil, read the link i provided earlier. and by the way guess who else provided iraq with a whole lot of weapons too... France and Germany... there's irony for you.
As for US's use of the bomb in WW2... that decision saved countless thousands of lives, both Americans and Japanese.
As for what we do with the iraq gov. after this war... its been layed out, discussed, and is a part of the plan. some of you might not have been listening.
- ********0
No, I guess? Hmmmm, Uhhhhhh?
- ********0
why would i say no to war.. nobody will listen and the war will come despite what everybody says.
bush is gay
- cajo0
If USA has the "rigth" to attack any country in the world without the consentiment of the UN, then dont get surprise if your country will be also, again, attaked by other terrorists.
I give you a solution, stop playing god. Distribute more the money and the food around the world, etc, ect. this go's also for Europe country's, not only USA.
- vespa0
To the people using the "what would you do if your neighbour was going to steal your car and kill you" argument in favour of pre-emptive strikes, the following is a letter to the London Observer, from Terry Jones (Monty Python):
- unknown0
cajo you're a complete idiot!
The United States already gives more financial and humanitarian assistance to the rest of the world than anyone else by FAR!!!!
Thousands of Americans donate time and money to help people around the world they don't even know.
Your anti-americanism is blatantly obvious. Come back when you can effectively argue your position.
- Bluejam0
"As for what we do with the iraq gov. after this war... its been layed out, discussed, and is a part of the plan. some of you might not have been listening. "
Enlighten me.
- vespa0
To those who say anti-war protesters can't make a difference, this is another idea spread to back the notion that we must blindly obey those in power.
Tony Blair may get flack in the UK for backing Bush but I think that without Blair we would already be at war (although yes we have never stopped bombing since the last war). The only reason why Blair has had to try and pursuade Bush to go to the UN is that all his MPs are finding that their constinuencies are writing to them (as I have) and telling them point blank that they will not vote for them again because of this. This gives MPs the resolve they need to say publically that they are against the war.
Britiain is actually in a strong position at the moment - Bush needs an ally to back him, and if Blair did not back him Bush would find it difficult to go to war. Keep pressuring Blair and Bush.
Don't lose your deep down conviction that killing innocent people is wrong. This can never be justified.
- mitsu0
what have been the effects of that last war protest? anything?
- vespa0
Well 122 Labour MPs voted against war last Wednesday, which will mean Tony is committing political suicide if he ignores public opinion.
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps…
I'd say this is a direct result of MPs feeling they have public support in speaking out against their own party.
- barnburner0
vespa. you are very wrong to say that we will be attacking innocent people. like i said go back and read the link i provided.
so far the protests of war has a negative effect on your servicemen as well as demonstrating our lack of backbone and fortitude that our past generations had plenty of... well except for the french. they never had it.
- silver0
and what was the effect of the two previous wars against iraq?
here's something about the 'layed out plan': http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl…
- Danski0
"except the french."
well, barnburner, I think I've got the very inner workings of your mind pretty much pegged now. And I'm no watchmaker either.
- ********0
vespa, a delight to read your comments, eloquent and intelligent. Thank you.
barnburner I sincerely hope that you do not hold a passport.