Star Wars Episode VII
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- fadein110
Who is Snoke? :)
http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-13-mo…- Im going to die if he just ends up being a new character, which JJ and Serkis said he was. Fans trying to break it down like he has to be an existing character!CygnusZero4
- detritus0
Big Thanks to autoflabia for fucking one of the more fundamental parts of the movie up for me as I was buying tickets last night - excellent stuff, fella, good work.
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That aside - i thought SW:TFA was great fun.
Not going to over-analyse things too much, because let's face it, it's fucking Star Wars, but I will say this at least -
Lucas doesn't get what it is we all wanted and wholly forgot how to create the magic he was once great at. Instead of making a well -made grown-up kids film that cannily worked for adults too, he made three idiot kids movies and then gutfucked the originals to turn them into idiot kid flicks too.
Kind of ironic that Disney seems to wholy understand the difference, so I'm looking forward to the next 10 movies and 14 TV series/specials/cartoons, or whatever else they're going to churn out.
- George knew what made star wars star wars. He purposely did something pretty different with the prequels, not wanting to make the same movies again.CygnusZero4
- Cant fault him too much for wanting to do something different, for better or worse. ITs always good to experiment, and it doesnt always work out.CygnusZero4
- Spielberg hasn't veered too far from the quality his movies have had across his career - it's not the story that made the prequels shit, it was their direction.detritus
- I like the prequels for what they are, cool sci fi shit. The acting and writing sucks but I never cared about that much in star wars anyway.CygnusZero4
- When I want great acting and writing ill watch movies that basically arent cartoons made for 6 year olds. I like ths sci fi shit in them. Cool planets, ships..CygnusZero4
- We're basically saying the same thing, but with some qualitative veering apart.detritus
- Yeah, thats why Im forgiving of the acting and some of the writing in the prequels. Not expecting Citizen Kane.CygnusZero4
- CygnusZero40
LOL. Disney basically hitting Edit>Undo for everything George has done after wrapping the original trilogy up.
- FINALLY!!!!ETM
- Disney, you glorious, white slaver, sons of bitches, you!ETM
- So the SW Trilogy is the Beatles White Album of the movie world, I guess. We just keep buying it.ETM
- Copy > Paste > Regurgitateutopian
- that added scene with solo and hutt in ep IV is fucking ridiculous, spoils the whole movieBluejam
- It looks terrible. Looked like it was done by 3D animation students.CygnusZero4
- Ben99-6
and i dont get why the hell Luke is waiting on an empty top of mountain, doing nothing... What the hell he's doing there? he just wait and eats grass?
- http://gimmebar-asse…Bluejam
- He was probably on top of the mountain for dramatic effect.desmo
- and the map that lead to him, wich seems to be dated. Lead exactly there...? wtfBen99
- went in exile after apparently kylo destroyed lukes jedi school and killed most of the studentsCygnusZero4
- it was the location of the first jedi temple. probably went there to wait to die.CygnusZero4
- and by some kind of magic nathalie portman II arrive at the precise moment he's thereBen99
- It's not possible simply he heard a starship land, and or could sense another Force sensitive and was waiting?ETM
- he wanted her to take as long as possible for the delivery because after 30 minutes it's freeprophetone
- Jedis meditate a lot.MondoMorphic
- Jedis are real!jaylarson
- Ben you say this like you wouldn't love a beautiful spot like that to just chill and watch the world go by.mg33
- The ending was one of the best scenes , there's meaning to it. Don't want to spoiler.pinkfloyd
- J.J. Abrams just ran out of original ideas.utopian
- its a weak scenario i think. Like, dont ask questions, he's there at the right moment. Thats it.Ben99
- Like he knew from some obscure Jedi magic that Rey would be there at a specific time.Ben99
- I mean, he could've said 'hi honey' at least...prophetone
- Obviously he knew they were comingset
- ^ What set said. He could sense her presence and hear the ship coming.kona
- He wasnt there for like a couple days before Rey got there, he was there for years.CygnusZero4
- Apparently what happened at his school happened when Rey was 5 or 6. So he was there for roughly 15 years.CygnusZero4
- She whatsapped him on his iPhone 6set
- @set, unlikely, as if you recall they blew up Apple headquarters in ROTJprophetone
- @Ben99, how is this a problem? He is in exile and likely spends a lot of time there on the island. Had she seen him on the way up she would have stopped.ETM
- But he was at the top so that's where they met. Perhaps have scenes where she looked in every cave and outcrop on the way up? That would be good film making!ETM
- pretty there would be better way to do thisBen99
- Yeah, they should have called ahead so Luke would at least have tea and biscuits waiting. Poor host, indeed!ETM
- xactlyBen99
- I think he was up there taking in the scenery and peacefulness of it all one last time because he knew he'd have to leave to help the resistance.Melanie
- ^ A very simple and logical possibility.ETM
- Seriously. He has the force on his side. He knew they were coming. It's really not that hard to grasp you shower of demi-wits..set
- autoflavour7
- Soon: http://image.fourwhe…OBBTKN
- should have printed that on a spoiler.ApeRobot
- https://33.media.tum…Bluejam
- Lol why has nobody keyed his car yet?desmo
- http://i.imgur.com/T…ernexbcn
- probably not even realCygnusZero4
- SPOILER alert!!! Ha.BK
- funnyutopian
- and here I am just booking tickets to see it for the first time.detritus
- hahahahahahaiCanHazQBN
- Bah really didn't need to know this. Not Safe for Homepage WTFuzz!instrmntl
- I am not even going to watch the fucking movie no more.sureshot
- does it say Han Solo? I think its meant to say Kylo Rens dadautoflavour
- freedom0
- ok?CygnusZero4
- A Storm Trooper in the streets, a Wookie in the sheets?nb
- Overly hairy and prone to tearing your arms off? Kinky.ETM
- this is the droid i was looking for?autoflavour
- gap even with armour. extra points.Gnash
- freedom0
Chewy should have been more upset at Han's death.
- he's a wookie. They're tough and wise.ApeRobot
- yeah... they tried an over exaggerated no... remember? https://www.youtube.…kona
- Lets be honest... Chewie knew it was gonna happen in a few more years anyway ;)ETM
- sarahfailin0
there's no problem with luke being on the island waiting for them. in all likelihood, he sensed it was time to return to the world, and probably activated R2D2 himself remotely to give them the rest of the map.
re: why is he out there in the first place? he's a jedi master. he has mysterious reasons. it's not hard for me to suspend disbelief on that.
- Ben99-2
To resume, i found the scenario to be precipitated and lacks details. The movie was still entertaining but I found it to be easy, on a first level... Could have been more deep. It was all surfacing.
- It was just like the first star wars. No extra stuff explained. JJ wanted to put more detail in the movie, Kasdan wouldnt let him.CygnusZero4
- JJ jokes about it in some interviews. They wanted to keep it pretty thin, less exposition, the exact opposite of the prequels.CygnusZero4
- I would have been good with the movie being 10-15 mins longer with a little more time spent on certain things, like the whole hosnian prime thing.CygnusZero4
- resume = summarizesarahfailin
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- Centigrade0
SPOILER:
Did it not bug anyone else that Leia didn't hug Chewie as he came off the Falcon? I mean he was Hans best buddy. Rey only knew he a day or two and she gets all the hugs? Poor Chewie, no medal, and now no love.
- I think the Lea's scenes were very bad and Carrie Fisher was very bad too. My opinion.Ben99
- The agreed upon assumption is that she hugged him first, then Rey, but that scene was cut.kona
- There's much hubub that a lot of her (Leiah's) scenes were cut to help shorten the movie.kona
- yeah seriously.Al_dizzle
- they had a special hugging session later.. (spoiler alert: chewie leia affair spin off epsiode VIII)autoflavour
- scarabin0
- can anyone explain how he got out? Did I fall asleep at that part?zenmasterfoo
- with his dreamy eyes2002
- he ejected before the tie-fighter crashed, he tells finn that at one pointscarabin
- Or he said he was thrown from the wreckage. Can't recall. Same result.ETM
- he said he was thrown from the wreckage. probably something jj wanted to show that kasdan wouldnt let him.CygnusZero4
- yeah, thatscarabin
- he was supposed to die in that crash an earlier draft so I reckon they had a few issues plugging the hole so threw in that daft explanation later on.fadein11
- About as daft as Finn surviving in the first place. Jesus christ.jtb26
- Ianbolton0
watched the original 3 over xmas and never really had an opinion about the Lucas ego-trip of a remaster before, but fuck me he really did ruin those films. The first 20 mins of Return of the Jedi was almost unbarable
- What? You don't like that horrible dance number in Jabba's palace? Where the effects look worse than original footage.ETM
- Ben993
Saw it yesterday.
I rate it OK-Entertaining.
The scenario is simple and not developed, the story is all in surface and fast and have absolutely no deepnest to it. The characters are poorly developed
Nathalie Portman II is good.
- the girl is cute, but natalie portman she is not.sarahfailin
- inteliboy0
Good or bad or somewhere in between, it has at least given us something that the internet sorely needs - peoples opinions!
- Ben992
Dunno why, but i kinda feel a little uncomfort with the old ones, Leia, Solo and Luke... Like I was seeing the actors more than their played characters... I found their play to be kinda fake. I dunno.
- sameApeRobot
- too much time has passed for them to feel like characters they played 30 years ago. they look and sound too differentCygnusZero4
- Leia especially. Oompa Loompa body with a smoker's voice.ETM
- You know she was wearing spanx up to her eyeballs and that's they best they could do.ETM
- ok_not_ok2
- yasssscarabin
- +1set
- posted 7 months ago?Ianbolton
- very onboard with this. liked him as obi wanCygnusZero4
- He was, IMO, one of the only redeeming parts of the prequels. He tried to be as convincing as possible with some of that terrible dialogue.ETM
- highlight of the prequels for sure. gimme more obiwan!jaylarson
- Sems cool, but a whole trilogy sounds like too much...baseline_shift
- Trilogy = 3x more money for Di$ney :DBen99
- Gardener2
- Simon Bolz / SimonFFM?fadein11
- deleted scenes?caterpus
- leia's grannie pants are kind of turning me on.. that ass.. damnautoflavour
- autoflavour0
- that's just because she sucks at forcespl33nidoru
- ...or has she? DUN DUN DUNNNNN!face_melter