Star Wars Episode VII
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- spl33nidoru2
Like Lucas said it himself (skip to 8:38)
- i meant 8:28spl33nidoru
- expected to want to turn him off right away but nope - interesting.fadein11
- I love his comparison between "joy" and "pleasure" well stated!utopian
- ^ yep that was good.fadein11
- Awesome. Thanks for sharingbabaganush
- fadein110
To be fair to JJ I am starting to think this film was ruined in the edit. As a 3 hour film it may have worked out better, more backstory and occasionally slower pace. Not slow like the prequels as if good dialogue and story it wouldn't feel slow.
I think Disney insisted on a 2:15 tops duration for kids.
It may be much better with a longer edit if that ever emerges.- you are obviously way down in the minority with this opinion.CygnusZero4
- ^ yep I know. But myself and 3 friends all left with the same feeling. And a lot of the faces leaving didn't look happy.fadein11
- We really wanted to like it and totally expected to... but the pace, lack of character development due to it and near total lack of original ideas let it downfadein11
- badly... Not a hater so don't want to be saying this. But perhaps its a SW film for new not old fans.fadein11
- Itll probably work for me. I like the prequels, to an extend. Theres some things I hate in them, but I like all the cool SW shit in them.CygnusZero4
- Some shit acting and dialogue in all 3, but to me theyre mostly fun, stupid sci fi movies. Im not picky lolCygnusZero4
- Thats cool and a lot of people will feel like that - there is cool stuff in there. Just something wrong - I will work out after another watch.fadein11
- I guess I just always want to see another Empire lol - I am old and nostalgic.fadein11
- Dont spoil anything, but do we get to see another guy with a red saber aside from Kylo?CygnusZero4
- Cygnus from what you're saying I think you'll have a great time with it. I'm gonna go ahead and post one spoiler that will make it or break it for most...spl33nidoru
- SPOILER : : ekamer a yllacisabspl33nidoru
- Cygnus : no other red saberspl33nidoru
- damn. guess we'll have to wait for 8 or 9 to see thatCygnusZero4
- @cyg - you will love BB8 - star of the show in my opinion - best ever SW droid.fadein11
- the droids were always kinda the stars :)monospaced
- To complain about character development... did Ep. 4 have good developement? Not really, not on it's own.ETM
- We now see the whole character as they grew in the trilogy, and apply it as a whole.ETM
- @ETM - watch and you will know what I mean. In EPIV - Luke was setup as a farm boy with bigger aspirations, Obi Wan as a reclusive mystic, Solo as a roguishfadein11
- smuggler, Vader as the epitomy of evil - it was all v.clear without spoon-feeding pieces of information - the characters were entwined into the plot of thefadein11
- film - it stood alone and as part of a bigger mythology. A lot of the new characters in this film are vague, and you crave for more info as to how they gotfadein11
- there. I know more will be revealed in later episodes, but I also feel as a start to a new trilogy with new characters character and plot are v.weak. I thinkfadein11
- you will see what I mean even if you are not bothered about that. Just comments. I am not a SW hater - it was a huge part of my childhood hence why I bother tofadein11
- comment. I am still quite shocked that I feel like I do with the great overrall reaction and the gut feeling I had that it would be great.fadein11
- K. I'm talking my oldest son. I can be pretty critical, so I'll admit I'm afraid I'll have similar views as yourself.ETM
- Well I hope you don't. Perhaps I am too serious. Hope you and your boy enjoy.fadein11
- spl33nidoru0
fade, i don't know about you but the more we discuss it the more forgiving i feel about the film's flaws and am excited to see it again for what it is.
one thing it checked for sure is the nostalgia box, and there's still a lot of very good in it.- that's what JJ is good at right now...nostalgia retro updatesdocpoz
- Yep - I am also worried because I watched it late when really tired I didn't have the right mindset... perhaps I have been harsh. I just expected to be blownfadein11
- away especially after reading all the reviews/reactions.fadein11
- I will be seeing it again with daughter as she loves them all (and I guess that is the point) - not catering to old nostalgic men. But there are problems, Ifadein11
- really didn't see the masterpiece people are saying it is. But anyway - everyone enjoy it for what it is, a fun movie. I will try to leave my cringe face at thefadein11
- desk next time ha.fadein11
- Nostalgia retro update films?
★☆☆☆☆
1/5, max score.nb - You even seen it yet?ETM
- No, I may not. It just bums me out that nearly all the top-grossing movies are sequels or franchise films these days.nb
- Which is not the fault of Star Wars or any particular franchise.nb
- Sorry, I don't mean to go off-topic here. My complaints about SW are the same ones I'd have about Transformers, TMNT, Spiderman, Fast&Furious, etc.nb
- always some asshat that hates everything popular. its popular bc its good dude. people love star wars. its far beyond transformers or tmntCygnusZero4
- I don't hate everything popular. I wish that original ideas could make lots of money, inspiring more original ideas. Instead we get an endless stream of remakesnb
- As I said, my only complaint about Star Wars is that it contributes to the same problem as those other films I mentioned. I didn't say it was as bad as them.nb
- I have to agree nb - the 5 trailers before SW were all of that trend...fadein11
- Look at the top grossing films for the past few years. 8 (or 9) out of the top 10 will be remakes or franchises. It's simply the way it is these days.nb
- It's just safe betting - studios don't risk their entire business on original work and creating new fanbases - they have a readymade audience with this stuff.fadein11
- They used to and many nearly and did go under on one film production.fadein11
- Yep. Star Wars, like the others, is a movie produced as commerce, not art.nb
- utopian0
- To be fair he was always v.vocal about his influences.fadein11
- Vocal about his film influences, yes, but never credited the ACTUAL place where he stole LOTS of what's in Star Wars:Krassy
- Valerian and Laureline, created by writer Pierre Christin and artist Jean-Claude Mézières in 1967.Krassy
- The French dudes are STILL furious that NO credit has ever been given to them, despite the blatant rip offs!Krassy
- Check it out: http://nothingbutcom…Krassy
- Yep - replied above - very interesting.fadein11
- CygnusZero40
Is anyone actually called darth in this movie?
- Krassy1
George Lucas has been vocal about his film influences, but never credited the ACTUAL place where he stole LOTS of what's in Star Wars: "Valerian and Laureline," created by writer Pierre Christin and artist Jean-Claude Mézières in 1967.
The French dudes remain furious that NO credit has ever been given to them, despite the blatant rip offs!
Check it out: http://nothingbutcomics.net/2015…
- Wow - interesting. Never heard this before.fadein11
- you do know that Luc Besson is making a film on this?
http://deadline.com/…Bluejam - &
https://www.talentho…Bluejam - @Bluejam that's not the point at all :)Krassy
- @Krassy true, btw, thanks for the link, went and bought the first 4 collected volumes of the comic :-)Bluejam
- @Bluejam welcome! and nice on the purchase.Krassy
- :-)Krassy
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rey is a jedi
- and you are a clowninv
- this isnt even a spoiler. everyone knew this was going to happen.CygnusZero4
- _niko3
Just saw it, fucking amazing. Super nostalgic, was teary eyed in about 5 different scenes, it was a swashbuckling good time.
I was also aware of the plot devices being rehashes from the previous films but it's ok, it needed to feel familiar, he needed to right the ship in this one and he did it in spades. I think this one was more of a set up of what's to come, the real meat of the new ones will be next, JJ's empire strikes back if you will.
- also watched it with my 7yo and he was giddy throughout and afterwards. we watched star wars together to get him up to speed and he thought it was cheesy_niko
- he loved empire and he loved this so I'm more than happy._niko
- also forgot to mention how funny it was, brought a very human element to the movie something lucas' versions (esp 123) sorely lacked_niko
- +1 to this review! Had the same feeling. Perfect setup to the stuff that is coming.inv
- I need to see again. I didn't see an amazing film.fadein11
- JJ isn't directing the next one or the one after.fadein11
- ^ he will have a big hand in it though, you can count on thatCygnusZero4
- Ianbolton0
Without any disrespect to the film, which I loved, does anyone think JJ Abrahams fails to do emotion on any level. Even when things should be quite poignant I had no feelings to towards characters I'd not previously had any connection with.
Still, great fun overall though. I'm probably just being picky but looking at his other films they all seem to suffer the same issue.
- Abrams!!Ianbolton
- Effectist not effectiveOBBTKN
- Is it possible to make an effective blockbuster film with so much history, hype and boxes to tick?Ianbolton
- Dunno, I thought there was some really good emotion parts in both star trek movies. And heard theres some good parts like that in this.CygnusZero4
- Name some? Loads of people died in the last star trek but I didn't care (because I'm a bastard).Ianbolton
- ernexbcn0
I'm watching it in about 8 hours, no high expectations!
- Bluejam0
I liked/enjoyed it a lot.
Is it flawless, no.
Does it reach the standard of the original trilogy, yes.
It's a solid opening to the new trilogy, and yeah, I can see the next two episodes being much more complex and fingers crossed, better.
My only two negative thoughts - it raised too many questions, then before seeing it. The thirty year gap was too big, the film seemed more ep 8 than 7, there was a lot of story that could have been told leading up to the events of this film.My sons loved it, yeah, they've seen the previous 6 but this was first time seeing a star wars film on the big screen, and that in itself was the magic.
- colin_s3
SO SO GOOD
- Ben990
Is it the most promoted movie ever? I dont remember seeing such amount of promotion.. And such amount of derived products, its getting out of control.
- Has to be up there. Its fucking everywhere right now.CygnusZero4
- Batman 1989ID_212-198-236-93
- ^ yeah I think that was the first real summer blockbuster. i know its gotten credit for starting that.CygnusZero4
- If you were there you remember.ID_212-198-236-93
- stood on line outside of a dumpy theater for 2 hours with my parents to get tickets. i remember lolCygnusZero4
- i still remember walking out of it wanting to be batmanCygnusZero4
- Dear God, your parents weren't shot after... right??ETM
- kekBen99
- CygnusZero4-2
I keep seeing people in reviews talking about how the movie sets up a lot, doesnt answer a whole lot... they are aware there is 2 more movies coming after this, right? WTF do they think this is supposed to be finished now? lmao
Thats how the first of a trilogy should be. Making you want more, get you excited for the episode 8 trailer. I hated that each of the prequels felt mostly like standalone movies, didnt really set up the next one AT ALL. Killed the anticipation for the next one.
- it could have given more background but as I said it compresses a lot into too little time.fadein11