Shooting of the Day
Shooting of the Day
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- iCanHazQBN6
Gilgamush, how is it not true that because of YOUR views, and the pro-gun people that YOU elect, that guns are everywhere and easily accessible... thus leading to the deaths of innocent people, through crime or accidents.... ? How is it not true?
You didn't pull the trigger. But your ideas play a role in every shooting. Your views. The people you elect. The lax rules regarding guns. The fact that guns are so incredibly prevalent in people's households. The accidental and tragic deaths that happen in those households.
How do you not see the indirect blood on your hands?
Go ahead. Put your fingers in your ears. Mumble something about freedom.
- This makes no sense like the idea of original sin. Id have indirect blood on my hands for going along with booze/driving/living... i'll say nodeathboy
- People who drink booze do so by choice. And it's against the law to do it while driving. There are laws and measures to prevent it as much as possible.iCanHazQBN
- you have some issues broh. I agree with deathboy.yurimon
- Yes, I'm the one with issues. Right. I'm the one who actually want's to do something about 51,740 people dying in 2014 from gun deaths.iCanHazQBN
- dude you contribute money to the war effort without blinking an eye. and we all know war moneys is used to buy freedom for all those brown people.yurimon
- While the other side says things like "we need more guns". Yeah dude, I'm the one with issues. Yup.iCanHazQBN
- What on Earth do you know about my views on the current US wars???? LOL. I love how you just pulled that out of nowhere...iCanHazQBN
- ...Simply assuming that because I care about gun issues then it means I must not care about the wars we wage.iCanHazQBN
- You guys do nothing but divert the topic, over and over again.iCanHazQBN
- If you had cared to ask... I'm vehemently against the current wars ("wars for contractor profits" I call them). You think I want my tax money for this??iCanHazQBN
- well you claim whats his name is contributor while you are a contributor to death and destruction. but i suspect you have some deeper fears going on.yurimon
- I pay my taxes. Unfortunately I'm not in control of precisely how they're used. However, I try to elect people that make decisions againstiCanHazQBN
- things like war.iCanHazQBN
- you are a troll, and now i know who's proxy account you are. for once in your self hating little life be a man 'icanhaz' and stop playing your little gamesgilgamush
- unfortunately somethings can be written off as virtuous or non hypocritical put under the psychological rug conveniently.yurimon
- proxy account?monospaced
- When Gilgamush has nothing to defend himself with he just starts calling people trolls. Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't mean they're trolls.iCanHazQBN
- The cyber police is on to you.isleptwithsirenstonight
- And he doesn't think I'm American. He just can't fathom how an American could be anti-gun. He just can't wrap his head around that idea.iCanHazQBN
- but you are indeed just a troll, and because i hurt your feelings once by pointing out what a dickless sissy you are, now you are on a mission to say the most rgilgamush
- repulsive shit possible to me as your passive agresive little revengegilgamush
- And now I'm threatened with proxy talk and cyber police nonsense. What is this, 4chan? Yeah, I'm the child here... sure buddy...iCanHazQBN
- well guess what 'icanhaz', it just reaffirms what a dickless sissy you aregilgamush
- I don't really register personal insults, especially online. So I don't recollect when you called me a "dickless sissy". I instinctively ignore those parts.iCanHazQBN
- ..of a post.iCanHazQBN
- lol monospaced, where have you been hiding, so funny to see you here isn't it. what a coincidencegilgamush
- iCanHazQBN isn't a troll. LOL.monospaced
- Maybe the sissy is the one who feels so afraid that he needs a gun? Something to think about.iCanHazQBN
- so tell me, how does it work, do you log out of one and then into the other or do you just have them open in different tabs, trolling simultaneouslygilgamush
- icanhaz doesnt see his moral dilemma he is in. he hates gun but supports war even though he doesnt support war.yurimon
- I financially support war, though it's not my choice to. Don't play dumb. At the moment we don't have control over how most tax $$$ is spent. Nice spin though.iCanHazQBN
- ...While you guys will actually VOTE-IN people who are pro-gun.iCanHazQBN
- You're trying to compare the two dilemmas, but the intents are completely opposite. I try to vote-in anti-war people, while you vote in pro-gun people.iCanHazQBN
- it's amusing to hear you talk about playing dumb, seeing as how that is your favorite game. so why use the fake account anyways. proxy wasn't the right wordgilgamush
- This isn't a fake account. It's my real and main account.iCanHazQBN
- I had an account in the mid 2000's linked to my previous professional workplace. But that is long gone.iCanHazQBN
- What do you want from me? My real name and address?? LOL. Why are you calling this a "fake" account?? It's as real as yours. I've been around since 2008.iCanHazQBN
- its not a spin its a moral reality we are in. its a contradiction but a real one. you are against something that kills people yet a contributor.yurimon
- But there you go again, diverting off topic. Now you're trying some weird personal "I know who you are" game, instead of sticking to the discussion.iCanHazQBN
- Uh, but yuri, I have no control over how that contribution is made. If I did, I wouldn't make that contribution. You're spinning it.iCanHazQBN
- You're spinning it by saying: "Because you pay taxes, you must be FOR war". That's just stupid. Come on bro. You know how stupid that sounds.iCanHazQBN
- I do everything in my power to PREVENT war-mongering politicians to getting elected into office, by voting for ones who aren't so pro-war.iCanHazQBN
- While you will actually vote for FOR politicians who ARE pro-gun.iCanHazQBN
- no dude thats not how morality works. would give a person $ if you know they will go buy weapons.yurimon
- troll b gonegilgamush
- I pay my taxes. Some of it is used for good, some of it is used for bad. The point is, I'm trying to put people in office that use tax money more responsibly...iCanHazQBN
- ... instead of just giving up and saying "I'm not paying my taxes at all" and then ending up in jail.iCanHazQBN
- good luck with that pipe dream. you still miss the point of moral action in the now. you know that something immoral is happening and you consciously support ityurimon
- the excuses yeah but im trying to put someone in office, sidetracks the point. you are a heavy avoider i see cant face the truth.yurimon
- It doesn't sidetrack the point. It's a solution. We can't cut off all the benefits that tax money provides this country (health, education) because of this...iCanHazQBN
- What we should do is elect people who aren't militaristic-minded and who DON'T want to spend tax money on wars.iCanHazQBN
- What you're proposing is stomping on the ENTIRE tax system (which hurts education & healthcare), instead of extracting the negatives things (war) that use it.iCanHazQBN
- So because our government is using some tax money for war, you want to hurt the country's education and health as well??iCanHazQBN
- i guess you dont care about peoples lives then. just hot political issues from the safety of your home, or office. you know morality doesnt work that way right?yurimon
- You're drawing conclusions from your head instead of what I said. Whatever makes you better.iCanHazQBN
- i guess you are the moral authority of deciding who lives or dies. whats a life worth? its not like you have to go and do the actual work..yurimon
- Just because my house is safe, doesn't mean I don't care about people's lives. It's amazing how you draw your conclusions.iCanHazQBN
- you are an actual participant in a process of violence while opposing it. i can admit im a hypocrite for it and try to remedy it from there. we are all.yurimon
- What specific work are you suggesting I do? I cast my votes for what I believe is right. I protest against things which I believe are wrong.iCanHazQBN
- Do you want me to fly to Iraq and breath life into a dying civilian? What sort of "work" are you implying??iCanHazQBN
- not only you are a participant but you have knowledge of what you are doing. its hard fact. this the reality everyone brushes under the rug.yurimon
- the point im trying to say is that is more of political issue. a hot potato of sorts. the tunnel vision. its important that we deal with the core issue of moralyurimon
- Huh?? But it's not something we brush under the rug. Lots of people are trying to get anti-war, peace-minded people as our leaders.iCanHazQBN
- Why do you assume that everyone is unconscious to this? Every time I fill up my tank in my car I literally think "Where the hell did this oil come from and howiCanHazQBN
- many people in the middle east had to die because of it?"iCanHazQBN
- The dilemma of so much tax money for war is something we know about and are trying to change.iCanHazQBN
- .. while the pro-gun people are saying things like "we need MORE guns". It's completely opposite.iCanHazQBN
- That would be like me saying "I know my tax money is going for war, and I'm perfectly OK with that, so here take some more money."iCanHazQBN
- ... But I'm not saying that! How can I explain this any clearer?iCanHazQBN
- i dont know anyone saying it and im not pro gun. im pro rights. everyone could have changed it but didnt. you dont see the delusion of moral action yet?yurimon
- "honey i cheated but she means nothing to me" accuses all lead to the issue of personal responsibility and power.yurimon
- everything you suggesting absolves you of this power and responsibility. how do you face being not completely moral in the face of massaging political topicsyurimon
- i'm not trying to single you out but this is just a classic example.yurimon
- Pro rights? Why when gays want to get married you say "the gov't can't give you rights".....iCanHazQBN
- But when it comes to guns you're all about having rights??iCanHazQBN
- People should have to right to go to school and the movies and mall without fear of getting shot... as long as we're talking about rights.iCanHazQBN
- because rights dont come from gov. thats why. you can go anywhere you want. the fear is something within your reality.yurimon
- anyway, how are you going to deal with your moral dilemma and hypocrisy is what i want to know.yurimon
- If rights don't come from the government, then why do you cling like mad to the right to bear arms?? That right was created by a government.iCanHazQBN
- rights can be taken away or legal terms trespassed on, stolen. look it up.yurimon
- lets get back to your responsibility here. how are you handling it?yurimon
- Handling what?iCanHazQBN
- You didn't answer why you get the right to bear arms, but you don't feel gays should have equal rights to get married.iCanHazQBN
- You just mumbled something about "rights can be taken away". Well, no shit.iCanHazQBN
- Only yurimon gets to have his rights! Anybody else wants rights? Fuck them!iCanHazQBN
- the problem with you icanhaz is that you are too busy emoting, thinking about what 'should' happen in stead of thinking about the hows and whys of the issuegilgamush
- we 'should' have a society where guns aren't necessary but we do, so instead of fixating on the injustice of it all and shouting over and over again how unfairgilgamush
- it is, why don't you join the discussion on how we can make the u.s. safer, so that people wont need fire arms to protect themselvesgilgamush
- Guns are necessary because other people have guns. It's a stupid cycle that's created by fear. You get rid of the gun.iCanHazQBN
- Want to make the U.S. safer? Get rid of guns. It's proven all over the world it works.iCanHazQBN
- Unless you want metal detectors in every school and movie theater and shopping mall and park and sporting venue and bus and train and... etc.iCanHazQBN
- you are such a tiresome troll. almost like a child who deos not get his way. listen real closely kiddo, the answer is nnnnoooooooo. it isn't going to happen, stgilgamush
- stop fantasizing all day and pose a real suggestion or shut your stupid ass upgilgamush
- do you really think telling people to shut up would ever work? has it ever? you don't seem like a smart one :/pango
- I think its pretty clear that ican is overly afraid, where fear has taken over the one cell of rationality he ever had in his body.yurimon
- And i think you haven't gone to the toilet for months. you're brain in buried in shit.pango
- I have yet to see you say any thing of value pango, worry about yourself for a changegilgamush
- utopian2
"The Ring of Freedom!" - NRA
Three teens killed in two weekend shootings in Indianapolis
http://fox59.com/2015/10/04/pers…- "SHOOTINGS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH GUNS!! FUCK YOU PEOPLE!!" -Gilgamushmoldero
- this was not lost on me: "the city’s 100th homicide of the year took place on Centennial Street"imbecile
- I think gilgamush means that an inanimate objects cant walk on their own. so bring this to deeper subject of what going on.yurimon
- How does it make you feel yurimon seeing gilgamush get all this attention?monospaced
- doesnt make me feel anything. i understand his frustration dealing with primates. not easy.yurimon
- a nuke is an inanimate object.
LEGALIZE IT!moldero - Yes the primates. Of course.monospaced
- primates, or people who would rather deal in absolutes than actually discuss practical solutions and underlying causes. not easy being the voice of reasongilgamush
- it's sad to see you reduced to satire and troll antics moldero, shame on yougilgamush
- LOL. What's your practical solution then? Increase mental and behavioral healthcare? But you're against raising taxes. You have no solutions.iCanHazQBN
- Just broad and vague talk about "oh we need to change this country's culture". Give me a break.iCanHazQBN
- i never said anything about health care. if you would like to just set them up and knock them down why don't you propose something other than the same dullardgilgamush
- insistence on total disarmament troll fantasygilgamush
- I thought you did feel that the solution would be to address the psychological aspect of hte killers while stopping media coverage.monospaced
- Yes among other things, but that has nothing to do with state funded mental health care though so the bit about taxes is nonsensegilgamush
- well, at some point healthcare on this topic would eventually get to a state-funded level, so it's certainly not nonsense.monospaced
- obamacare and allmonospaced
- How do you figuregilgamush
- taxes pay for health care, c'mon, it's not complicated and I know you know thismonospaced
- According to the welfare system they do, are you so lost in the socialism that you have ignored the existance of private health care providersgilgamush
- It's not the government's right or responsibility to socialize health care, and it has been a disaster since day one. The insurance doctors and hospitals need tgilgamush
- to carry in order to not get constantly railroaded is a related issue. Personal health is a personal responsibilitygilgamush
- And by the way, there are plenty of states that don't recognize obama care, mainly because it is unconstitutional to make someone buy something from you by forcgilgamush
- Force of law. You are, capitalism is written into our very constitutiongilgamush
- *You see,gilgamush
- isleptwithsirenstonight5
This thread
- BabySnakes1
No amount of gun legislation can control what free willed person should/could/would do with a dangerous weapon.
The tragic death of the little kid, due to dumb parents leaving weapons out, is a tragedy but gun control laws wouldn't prevent it.
The senseless teenage deaths might be prevented by getting rid of all guns, until some psycho builds one from a 3d printer.
Guns should only be with those responsible and respectful enough to wield one. Each side's argument is hopeless unless you have a magic way of making that happen flawlessly.
I hate to see anymore senseless shooting, but i have yet to hear a solution that hold water.
- Um guns are sold to responsible people every day. The problem is when those guns go home, nobody knows what happens to them.iCanHazQBN
- Anyone in the household, mentally stable or not, has a chance of accessing the weapon.iCanHazQBN
- And how do you know gun control laws wouldn't have prevented the little kid dying?? What are you psychic?iCanHazQBN
- Here's the data again proving how gun control laws do actually prevent deaths:
https://img.njdc.com…iCanHazQBN - The solutions are crystal clear, yet all of you refuse to acknowledge the obvious.iCanHazQBN
- If those 7 points in that chart were all applied and in effect. It wouldn't have prevented the negligence of the weapon owner.BabySnakes
- A good chart, i live in CA and seems we have pretty it pretty good. Those southern states could benefit from regulation.BabySnakes
- good point on the 3d printerIRNlun6
- better parenting and less irresponcible sensationalism in the mediagilgamush
- 'oh but that cant be written into law', yes, precisely, personal responsibility is a hell of a thinggilgamush
- iCanHazQBN0
"Guns should only be with those responsible and respectful enough to wield one." - BabySnakes
Well how the hell are we going to prove that someone is "responsible and respectful"???
Mr. Gun Owner might seem perfectly responsible and respectful at the time of purchasing his shiny new gun. A truly upstanding citizen with a clean record...
But what the hell is going to happen when he finds his wife banging the pool man?... or gets into a fit of road rage at a stranger?... or gets laid off and depressed and wants to shoot his boss?... or his child finds the safe open and shoots himself in the mouth?
Of course in an ideal world all the good guys would have the weapons. But human behavior is completely unpredictable, and all of these tragedies prove exactly that.
- That is what i was saying.BabySnakes
- You have to go deeper. the quality of person matters deeply in a free society. its might not cure all, there is no cure all. look at licenses for driving.yurimon
- a 2 ton projectile that can hurl at 70-100 miles per hour. you drive a car with an assumption of trust that the licensing scheme has solved the problem ofyurimon
- weeding out bad drivers. you dont know who is who around you, statistic are more geared toward an accident then being shot over all.yurimon
- It does represent the ultimate responsibility anyone could ever have.yurimon
- gilgamush0
applies here
- What does this have to with "Shooting of the Day" you moronic nitwit.utopian
- Go troll Reddit or Fox News.utopian
- says the guy who can barely wait for the next american tragedy to post on qbn along with some sarcastic politicized remarkgilgamush
- https://www.youtube.…gilgamush
- Get over yourself Gilgamush. It's not just AMERICAN tragedies. We'll fucking laugh at any assholes misfortune.Morning_star
- ^psychopath detectedyurimon
- ^irony missedMorning_star
- Murder victims are not unfortunate assholes and there is no irony involved unless you are sick in the headgilgamush
- I've tried, but cannot understand US pro-gunners. I think you have a similar misunderstanding of language and intent. C'est la vie.Morning_star
- All I know is that it is completely inappropriate to be making light of innocent people getting murdered. There is no humor in that no matter what sick irony yogilgamush
- You find in itgilgamush
- The point i was making was that YOU decided that a tragedy was somehow more tragic because it's American. I was merely pointing that out. As for making light...Morning_star
- ...of murder? You're the man who defends unnecessry deadly weapons.Morning_star
- Unnecessary according to who. And at what point did I imply the nonsense you just said. You are blindly grasping at a rational for the obviously sick behaviourgilgamush
- Of mocking tragediesgilgamush
- At this point - "says the guy who can barely wait for the next AMERICAN tragedy". Not just a tragedy, an AMERICAN tragedy. Your opinion of my 'sick'...Morning_star
- ...behaviour is a petit snipe and is dwarfed IMO by your 'sick' and dillusional defense of gun ownership and the responsibility you shirk quite blatantly.Morning_star
- So your defence for doing something that you know is wrong is that you think I am wrong about something vaguely related? Are you a child?gilgamush
- It's not a defence, it's an explanation, I believed you were confused. However, it appears I was wrong. You seem to be quite intelligent but refuse to debate...Morning_star
- Instead you choose to snipe and refocus the debate on anything other than your indefensible position. Man up Gunboy.Morning_star
- there is nothing to debate about. cracking jokes on the topic of innocent people getting murdered is repulsive. there is no excuse, explanation or any of thatgilgamush
- just stop doing it, it is sadistic, and it makes it seem like you are so filled with hate for america that you can justify mocking a dead 11 year old girlgilgamush
- bash america all you want, i really don't care, and i may agree with you on some points, but leave the condescending jokes out of it in the context of personalgilgamush
- tragedygilgamush
- fadein110
"It took me two hours to get my hands on an AK-47. Welcome to America"
http://www.theguardian.com/comme…
So this is okay?
- There are some great points in this article.nb
- 2 hours is way too long to wait. This is America damit... shit shouldn't take that long for us.kona
- Comparing school shootings to inner-city gang violence, and pointing out the different reactions we have. Damn.nb
- bizarre so easy to get Russian assault rifles - where's the freedom guns?fadein11
- its pretty easy to write an article like this if you have the proper connections. if you have no ghetto finesse you title might read still looking for a connectyurimon
- its same with any country with people who know people. not exclusive to the US.yurimon
- Question would be what is happening that even with all this socialization going on of our systems that more people are dumbed down and have problems?yurimon
- whatever... actually don't reply - I cannot be arsed. Good article. Laterz.fadein11
- Tell us more yurimonisleptwithsirenstonight
- I almost bought one legally back in '98-ish from an AMD employee, that dude had sandbags on the window's of his house 'n shitmoldero
- fairly easy to find a gun in any country if you have criminal connections of any kind.imbecile
- hahaha Konadetritus
- Already regret posting this. Pointless.fadein11
- Do you know what's really pointless fadein11?!? Arguing on the internet.kona
- you guys really need to up your game. the article is vague and just a personal story of someone seeing how long it would take to buy a gun.yurimon
- its more of an editorial any one could write with their political point of view.yurimon
- Welcome to America!utopian
- imagineallthepeople2
- also notorious for shooting his wife, rather stupidlyimagineallthepeople
- yeah he's an addict and kind of psycho.Al_dizzle
- an expertimagineallthepeople
- Hunter S. Thompson loved guns also, not sure why, I guess they appeal to those who enjoy the edge.fadein11
- and if you don't like guns you probably enjoy bonoimagineallthepeople
- The death of his wife haunted him and in turn he became enamoured with handguns in an attempt to control them to make up for the moment he didn't.face_melter
- I'm pretty sure they take away the guns from the people that do them as well.Cosmodrome
- @facemelter - totally factually incorrect - he had a long obsessions with guns and death way before he accidentally killed his wife.fadein11
- nb3
It would be interesting if one small (low population) state could have a referendum and enact very strict gun control laws, a buyback program, allow residents to sell their guns to other states, and start doing state-border searches. Essentially, try to rid just one state of guns, and put up protection at the border. You would need overwhelming support from the residents of that state, but maybe there is a state that wants to try it.
Of course, this idea wouldn't ever become law because the NRA and gun-lobby would undoubtedly foresee that this idea would likely reduce shootings and spread to other states, so they would respond with intense legal pressure citing the constitution and would likely win in the Supreme Court.
But maybe the federal govt could step in and say, "Look, we're going to try this in this one state. The people voted for it, so let's try it." But, let's say some state figured out how to do this, and the violent crime rate in the state dropped significantly over time, eventually one day a gun would slip through and there would be a shooting. And on that very same day, even if it were decades later, the entire gun lobby would scream, "See it didn't work!!!"
The 2nd Amendment ultimately protects your right to live with guns, but does not protect you from them. Sad.
- Try Hawaii. Lowest gun ownership %, wouldn't have to worry about borders, can just throw the guns into the ocean.kona
- But then again... that would mean we'd be arming the aquatic life with uzis and ak-47s. I don't know if our government can handle sharks packing heat.kona
- Ok, that won't be a problem. I just got off the phone with Aquaman. He said he'd put the word out to the fish NOT to pick up the guns and start firing them.kona
- Crisis averted. Jesus, I really am a great problem solver. I wonder why I can't hold a job?kona
- gilgamush will have the last word in the comments thread, no matter whatmonospaced
- Not on my watchkona
- "put up protection at the border" — this is working great between the us and mexicoimbecile
- haha konamoldero
- US/Mexico border is not a fair comparison, because a) guns are legal on both sides, b) entirely different organizations on each side.nb
- Maybe your desire for control make you fit to run for office.yurimon
- The state would need to be extremely committed, to the point of battling the NRA in a 2nd Amendment vs State's Rights legal debate that would span for years.nb
- And, you'd also need a state where the people are largely in support of it. It wouldn't work if everyone decided to hide their guns in their basements.nb
- why would a state go against the supreme law of the land and its people? that type of state autonomy is a dictatorship. lolyurimon
- its good that you are just a passive aggressive and emotionally oppressed designer.yurimon
- you should try a province in canada, much more easily convinced of stupid shit ive been hearing.yurimon
- Yuri: Are you suggesting that the States should not have rights? Or that they everyone should obey the Supreme Court? Or everyone should submit to the Fed Govt?nb
- state is a dead fiction. it has no rights above its creators. the people. you need to really study broh. you are delusional on how things work. im not reallyyurimon
- yuri, if you're not an emotionally oppressed designer, or a primate, what are you and what are you doing here?monospaced
- you're certainly overflowing with passive-aggressivene... like most people here.monospaced
- pro gun person. i just understand these things from real research. which is different from assumption. if i was like 18 when i based all my ideas from hearsayyurimon
- i would have been exactly like you. reason its supposed to be a republic. i'm sorry dude.yurimon
- im not passive aggressive mono. i call like i see it. but im basing this on how he was going to do some crab shit react to noise from a neighbor. so.yurimon
- Sigh.nb
- state run governments are different on each side as well. you're asking for succession of a state who is willfully disarming itself.imbecile
- nb, seriously. study up a bit without political bias. youd be amazed what you find.yurimon
- northern states should separate and join canada, one by one, the rest of the country will be taken over by Latinos before or later anywaydrgs
- Fuck off, troll. You're consistently posting links from the most extreme right wing blogs. Don't patronize me.nb
- so much for unbiased study. lol. Its sad that for an artist you only see the world as labels. You interpret the constitution as a right wing document? you knowyurimon
- people who created were called liberal back then. dont study bro. there is kryptonite in books.yurimon
- I was talking about garbage like washingtonsblog.com and all that other trash you post. Don't talk to us about "bias".nb
- some stuff i post is good some not so good. can you tell which is which?yurimon
- you commented on the ak article, how good it was when it was just a vague personal experience editorial. so you tell meyurimon
- Ok, so I'm wrong for commenting on that editorial, and you're right for posting links to extreme right wing blogs. Got it.nb
- i really dont label content as right wing or left wing. thats just ignorant to do. cant speak for you though.yurimon
- *rolls eyes.nb
- To be clear, I'm not suggesting this as a workable plan. I just said that it "would be interesting."nb
- That's pretty much what happened here in Aus. Apparently gun numbers are rising again but the mass shootings are rare(r than the US).MrT
- *in the US.MrT
- it is an interesting idea. i find it problematic to adopt the thinking that the government and it's laws are the answer to this problem though. any one remebergilgamush
- how prohibition turned out. people want what they want regardless of other people misguided self righteousness. and people are going to get what they want one wgilgamush
- way or the other. in stead of domestic manufacturing revenue from guns, it will all be revenue right in the pocket of cartels and criminals. kind of like the wegilgamush
- weed legalization rational. you can't suppress a large group of peoples desires by force of law and expect it to go down wellgilgamush
- instead, you try to regulate it a little better on state by state basis and collect tax revenue off it, which is exactly what is going on. again, just like weedgilgamush
- and regarding the comment about how i always get the last word, you are fuckin right kiddo, i thought i told you, i am here to win. lolgilgamush
- gilga is right. its going to be like drug war. something happens when something becomes illegal. get profitable for large organized crime to take over.yurimon
- I've also aware that statistics dont cover prevention incidents. i know you guys hate this but I read while ago that the prevention rate is 300 times higheryurimon
- then crime reported.yurimon
- What is a prevention incidentgilgamush
- if you averted a crime by brandishing a piece. this along with other types of incidents dont get reported or hard to make into stats. crime prevention.yurimon
- That's not how stats work. You can't with any amount of accuracy try to measure the absence of something. If the crime was stopped than it never happened and magilgamush
- May not have. It would be a waste of time to try to get those numbersgilgamush
- uan0
Inspired by Georges' documentaries entry about psychological warfare subversion, I think, you should make QBN great and start designing and posting better anti weapon material. And when you are at it, do it better (little tip learned from set).
There is plenty of pro guns propaganda around, way more than anti weapon propaganda. Looks like there is plenty of design work that needs to be done in this regard. And it's a meaningful task for designers.
- good speech, that we should continue to subvert truth, disregard the real reason for the decline and blindly take up a cause like every idiot has ever done inyurimon
- history ever. good show mate.yurimon
- you feel better than every idiot in history ever? really?uan
- dude you are talking about putting out propaganda, in a world already full of shit. so tell me how you are helping again.yurimon
- it's not propaganda, it's advertising for a cause they believe in.imbecile
- so tell us how YOU'RE helping, yuri? You always say we're not acting, but fail to say how you are, it's getting oldmonospaced
- i already posted broh. long ago.yurimon
- welcome back bro. welcome back.yurimon
- I'm talking about making good anti gun propaganda to change the attitude of the population towards the idea that guns are not a good thing.uan
- why would you want to falsely manipulate people on something you may not be right about.yurimon
- what is good or right about shooting people? you can settle differences peacefully.uan
- Nothing good about shooting innocent people. Its a deeper subject. what if its meds that these people are taking? ever look into that subject?yurimon
- its something that never comes up. why favor one industry over another? protect big pharma if their meds are to blame.yurimon
- i wonder how yurimon would feel if someone used their right to bear arms to silence / oppress his opinions through violence. Would he still be so pro-gun?imbecile
- is that a threat bro? its not a right for someone to inflict harm on other people. this is not the issue here. every crime is evaluated on an individual basisyurimon
- it's about protecting the people and the right to life. not any corporation or industry.uan
- If you want to look for patterns you dont just pick a political mantra. you want to evaluate the the core issue here. nothing wrong with it.yurimon
- maybe you forget or don't know that you first are a human, and then you are an element of the system.uan
- I think everyone forgets. its built into how people become part of the system.yurimon
- sometimes the system acts against people who are supposed to be superior to the system.yurimon
- I'm not a pro gun person. I'm arguing that there is more to be evaluated here. Just being pro or anti is not going to solve it. its a reactionary trap.yurimon
- that's what I'm talking about. use design to change the system, aka use propaganda. free yourself and your entourage from the trap.uan
- i dont know if you know what freedom is. you are going to be like every other duoche propagandist if you cant decipher truth from propaganda, why be that guyyurimon
- +1 yuri. there are plenty of subversive douche bags pulling strings and attempting to manipuate, we don't need moregilgamush
- think about this: you both might be victims of a pro gun driven propaganda campaign. funded by people who don't care about life.uan
- and also, think (or go read/research) about the concept of 'truth'.uan
- moldero4
When one woman witnessed a shoplifter fleeing the scene of a Home Depot in Michigan she did what any of us would do, she started shooting at them. more guns!
- Thank god she was armed,
think about all the things that could have happened!!GeorgesIV - "police say it is not clear if the woman will face any charges"
wowGnash - would jay-walking be a shootable offence?Gnash
- Yurimon? Gilgamush? Nothing to say?iCanHazQBN
- Yet another responsible CPL holder,
LOL @ all of the gun nuts!utopian - #MakeAmericaSafeAgai...utopian
- what's the point here, that she made the wrong choice? so. . and. .gilgamush
- people make inappropriate choices all the time. when those same people are armed those choices can have turn out like this.Gnash
- all I'm saying is that she should be charged. there's no way that should be considered an appropriate response to shoplifting.Gnash
- Agreed on both points gnashgilgamush
- This is the problem though. People think they can just shoot their way into a solution.iCanHazQBN
- you have no idea what people think, you are just a spunk trumpet blathering bullshitgilgamush
- Thank god she was armed,
- CALLES0
^^^
"It is believed that the victim was out with a group of friends when a physical altercation led to the victim being stabbed multiple times in his upper body," the public information officer for the Sacramento Police Department said in a statement to KXTV. "Detectives were called to the scene to assist with the investigation and the victim is currently being treated for what appears to be non-life threatening injuries."- nothing to see here. drunken bar fightCALLES
- Sacramentooooo! K Street- Biatch.sarahfailin
- Ramanisky21
Presidential hopeful Dr. Ben Carson says he would bum rush a gunman if he was in the same situation as last weeks mass shooting in Oregon ..
what an utter choad juggler
yeah OOOOOOOK.
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- "If a gunman walks up to you and asks 'What religion are you?', that is the ultimate test of your faith." WTF IS HAPPENING WITH YOU, AMERICAnb
- haha "choad juggler".
I 100% agree with whatever that is.detritus - ben carson is a dip shit. a surgeon who refutes evolution. what. but yea, what a smarmy fucker, he would shit his pants and beg for mercygilgamush
- "Conservatives" eat this shit up. They'll probably compare him to Reagan or John Wayne...IRNlun6
- not really, he is a mealy mouthed weakling who would say anything to please his constituents, juuuust like every other poloticiangilgamush
- LOL Gilga "mealy mouthed"Ramanisky2
- mealy mouthed...spit coffee on my display:)utopian
- Yes, he would say anything to please his constituents, which is why he's talking tough. He knows his audience.IRNlun6
- Yeh. He's a complete dickbag. But he did grow up in the Detroit ghetto.dirtydesign
- Meh, so did my father in law. Doesn't mean he is tough or has street smarts unfortunately. Back then the ghetto wasn't all that unsafe a place to be livinggilgamush
- True. Race riots are no biggie.dirtydesign
- They only lasted for about a week so yea Mr sarcastic, no big dealgilgamush
- when I heard BC say this I immediately thought about the time I had a gun put to my head... YOU FREEZE UP if you're not trained... I froze of course...PonyBoy
- ... the last thing you think about is bum-rushing the gunman... ... who seriously thinks like that?PonyBoy
- Good for him. The anti self defense crowd believes you should be killed. Anti gunners are pro tytanny.Hayoth
- what would you do? some of you believe guns are bad, but confronted by a shooter, you'll just let him shoot you? I'm not understanding the logic??GeorgesII
- This guy always sounds so dull and lethargic. No energy. Yawn.Krassy
- Carson is the human XanaxRamanisky2
- utopian0
GUN FOUND DURING ARREST OF 3 IN TANTRA TEACHER'S DEATH
- Hayoth-4
Not one person on this planet should be anti self defense.
- Obama's agenda, LMAOutopian
- so when are they going to kill a bunch of Australians?moldero
- socialism is strong in these guys. it is pretty ridiculous to have good old obama in there though, he is a company man, does what he is toldgilgamush
- so is every other president.pango
- each of these men had a specific group of people they wanted to kill... who is Obama's group if we're following this insane logic?monospaced
- like moldy said.
i wonder when are they going to kill a bunch of Australians.pango - who is Obama's group? - gun owners, obviously.Fax_Benson
- there is some complexity in breaking down the culture in the states. prob just a matter of time. i see the programing in here mostly hopefully it contained hereyurimon
- When are you going to get it through your heads that if they wanted to kill us now, they could. VERY easily.iCanHazQBN
- Your guns are toys compared to what the government has.iCanHazQBN
- This world is a consumerist society. They don't want to kill us. You are alive because you buy the shit that makes them rich.iCanHazQBN
- Yeah go ahead and fight the military with your little guns while a drone 2000ft. high in the sky flattens your entire neighborhood.iCanHazQBN
- I can't believe how stupid a lot of you are.iCanHazQBN
- stupid is as stupid does and you repeat the same tired drivel over and over againgilgamush
- you're all repeating yourselves nowmonospaced
- dude they dont have full consent of every one with the tech you claim to commit what you are saying. 2 its still a # game.yurimon
- only other methods are divide conquer, weaken traditional culture, confuse, dumb down, manufacture consent. future maybe collapse n war.yurimon
- they way you guys are reacting seems to be somewhat working. good to know that the human mind is so malleable.yurimon
- including your's yuri! :D unless you are not a primate!
Are you a primate?pango
- 20020
Good morning
- nb0
Here's an ongoing list of every mass shooting where more than FOUR people were shot in one incident, not necessarily murdered. (The vast majority include murders, of course).
http://shootingtracker.com/wiki/…
At 298, that's more than one mass shooting in the US per day.
- Chicago has 2.8 shooting an hour i heard. and its gun con trolled.yurimon
- How can you call Chicago "gun-controlled" when it has open borders to states that don't have gun control???iCanHazQBN
- Nobody know what kind of flow of guns is coming into Chicago. Fucking impossible to monitor something like that.iCanHazQBN
