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    It would be interesting if one small (low population) state could have a referendum and enact very strict gun control laws, a buyback program, allow residents to sell their guns to other states, and start doing state-border searches. Essentially, try to rid just one state of guns, and put up protection at the border. You would need overwhelming support from the residents of that state, but maybe there is a state that wants to try it.

    Of course, this idea wouldn't ever become law because the NRA and gun-lobby would undoubtedly foresee that this idea would likely reduce shootings and spread to other states, so they would respond with intense legal pressure citing the constitution and would likely win in the Supreme Court.

    But maybe the federal govt could step in and say, "Look, we're going to try this in this one state. The people voted for it, so let's try it." But, let's say some state figured out how to do this, and the violent crime rate in the state dropped significantly over time, eventually one day a gun would slip through and there would be a shooting. And on that very same day, even if it were decades later, the entire gun lobby would scream, "See it didn't work!!!"

    The 2nd Amendment ultimately protects your right to live with guns, but does not protect you from them. Sad.

    • Try Hawaii. Lowest gun ownership %, wouldn't have to worry about borders, can just throw the guns into the ocean.kona
    • But then again... that would mean we'd be arming the aquatic life with uzis and ak-47s. I don't know if our government can handle sharks packing heat.kona
    • Ok, that won't be a problem. I just got off the phone with Aquaman. He said he'd put the word out to the fish NOT to pick up the guns and start firing them.kona
    • Crisis averted. Jesus, I really am a great problem solver. I wonder why I can't hold a job?kona
    • gilgamush will have the last word in the comments thread, no matter whatmonospaced
    • Not on my watchkona
    • "put up protection at the border" — this is working great between the us and mexicoimbecile
    • haha konamoldero
    • US/Mexico border is not a fair comparison, because a) guns are legal on both sides, b) entirely different organizations on each side.nb
    • Maybe your desire for control make you fit to run for office.yurimon
    • The state would need to be extremely committed, to the point of battling the NRA in a 2nd Amendment vs State's Rights legal debate that would span for years.nb
    • And, you'd also need a state where the people are largely in support of it. It wouldn't work if everyone decided to hide their guns in their basements.nb
    • why would a state go against the supreme law of the land and its people? that type of state autonomy is a dictatorship. lolyurimon
    • its good that you are just a passive aggressive and emotionally oppressed designer.yurimon
    • you should try a province in canada, much more easily convinced of stupid shit ive been hearing.yurimon
    • Yuri: Are you suggesting that the States should not have rights? Or that they everyone should obey the Supreme Court? Or everyone should submit to the Fed Govt?nb
    • state is a dead fiction. it has no rights above its creators. the people. you need to really study broh. you are delusional on how things work. im not reallyyurimon
    • yuri, if you're not an emotionally oppressed designer, or a primate, what are you and what are you doing here?monospaced
    • you're certainly overflowing with passive-aggressivene... like most people here.monospaced
    • pro gun person. i just understand these things from real research. which is different from assumption. if i was like 18 when i based all my ideas from hearsayyurimon
    • i would have been exactly like you. reason its supposed to be a republic. i'm sorry dude.yurimon
    • im not passive aggressive mono. i call like i see it. but im basing this on how he was going to do some crab shit react to noise from a neighbor. so.yurimon
    • Sigh.nb
    • state run governments are different on each side as well. you're asking for succession of a state who is willfully disarming itself.imbecile
    • nb, seriously. study up a bit without political bias. youd be amazed what you find.yurimon
    • northern states should separate and join canada, one by one, the rest of the country will be taken over by Latinos before or later anywaydrgs
    • Fuck off, troll. You're consistently posting links from the most extreme right wing blogs. Don't patronize me.nb
    • so much for unbiased study. lol. Its sad that for an artist you only see the world as labels. You interpret the constitution as a right wing document? you knowyurimon
    • people who created were called liberal back then. dont study bro. there is kryptonite in books.yurimon
    • I was talking about garbage like washingtonsblog.com and all that other trash you post. Don't talk to us about "bias".nb
    • some stuff i post is good some not so good. can you tell which is which?yurimon
    • you commented on the ak article, how good it was when it was just a vague personal experience editorial. so you tell meyurimon
    • Ok, so I'm wrong for commenting on that editorial, and you're right for posting links to extreme right wing blogs. Got it.nb
    • i really dont label content as right wing or left wing. thats just ignorant to do. cant speak for you though.yurimon
    • *rolls eyes.nb
    • To be clear, I'm not suggesting this as a workable plan. I just said that it "would be interesting."nb
    • That's pretty much what happened here in Aus. Apparently gun numbers are rising again but the mass shootings are rare(r than the US).MrT
    • *in the US.MrT
    • it is an interesting idea. i find it problematic to adopt the thinking that the government and it's laws are the answer to this problem though. any one remebergilgamush
    • how prohibition turned out. people want what they want regardless of other people misguided self righteousness. and people are going to get what they want one wgilgamush
    • way or the other. in stead of domestic manufacturing revenue from guns, it will all be revenue right in the pocket of cartels and criminals. kind of like the wegilgamush
    • weed legalization rational. you can't suppress a large group of peoples desires by force of law and expect it to go down wellgilgamush
    • instead, you try to regulate it a little better on state by state basis and collect tax revenue off it, which is exactly what is going on. again, just like weedgilgamush
    • and regarding the comment about how i always get the last word, you are fuckin right kiddo, i thought i told you, i am here to win. lolgilgamush
    • gilga is right. its going to be like drug war. something happens when something becomes illegal. get profitable for large organized crime to take over.yurimon
    • I've also aware that statistics dont cover prevention incidents. i know you guys hate this but I read while ago that the prevention rate is 300 times higheryurimon
    • then crime reported.yurimon
    • What is a prevention incidentgilgamush
    • if you averted a crime by brandishing a piece. this along with other types of incidents dont get reported or hard to make into stats. crime prevention.yurimon
    • That's not how stats work. You can't with any amount of accuracy try to measure the absence of something. If the crime was stopped than it never happened and magilgamush
    • May not have. It would be a waste of time to try to get those numbersgilgamush

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