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- fifty500
it's the universe's way of balancing things. if we were all just mediocre then we'd all be rewarded.
- Kuz0
there's only justice for those who can afford it
- discipler0
I believe that bad things happen to good people because we live in a world that has been subject to the ravages of sin and it's corruptive power. It's a fallen world and no one is untouched.
- Kuz0
oh shit, i was being sarcastic discipler.
jees
- discipler0
oh.
- Kuz0
man that whole christian original sin theology makes me cringe summat rotten
- Kuz0
tell you what tho, i couldn't give two shits about no theistic religion. God(s) can suck my dick if (t/s)he(y) thinks i'm gonna spend my life worship and praising. This boy bows down to noone. I'd rather spend eternity burning in the pits of hell than having an afterlife spent with hymn singing holier than thou humanoids. You can forget that!
- Elfangio0
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Unitarian Universalism (100%)
- discipler0
and the amazing thing is... God still loves you with a relentless and unconditional love.
Even as shake your fist at him... Christ stretched out his hands and died with a love for you in his heart. :)
- Kuz0
I mean think about it, how can a superior enlightened being have such an ego?
"Praise me dammit! I command you! i created you wretched humans - now worship! beg for forgiveness! mwahahahahahaaa!"
I's like, forgiveness? fo' whut? fuck dat shit. I ain't asking fo forgiveness fo' nuttin'. I tasted the fruit, and I liked it! And whut? HUh bitch? wacha gonna do? Get little demons to poke my ass wit sticks? do yo' worse baby! No regrets. And no fear!
grrr
- Kuz0
loves me? loves me? when was the last time he bought me flowers?
*runs crying
- _smk0
and the amazing thing is... God still loves you with a relentless and unconditional love.
Even as shake your fist at him... Christ stretched out his hands and died with a love for you in his heart. :)
discipler
(Apr 20 05, 05:44)I don't want to start a fight mate, but one thing occured to me and I'd be interested in your reading. If you take the whole salvation through faith in God thing as literal, what happened to the thousands of generations of pre-christian / non-christian humans when they died? Hell for the lot of them? please enlighten me, how do you cover that? :)
- Kuz0
he loves me so much he's gonna burn my ass in hell. That's real unconditional that is. Like woah, jeremiah!
- version30
I believe if you do me wrong, the 10 cammandments are null and void.
The golden rule goes both ways:
If that's what they've done to me, that's what they can expect in return
plus some
- _smk0
that'll be the 11th commandment. Moses dropped it :)
- discipler0
_smk, regarding your first question about those before Christ, the Bible teaches that people looked forward in faith to the savior God would one day provide and thus were saved (see Romans Ch. 5). In effect, they were saved by looking forward to the cross. We are saved by looking back in time to the cross.
As for those who rejected the promises of God regarding the provision for sin in Christ, they have only the expectation of an eternity seperate from God. For those who have never heard the message of Christ, the Bible is clear that God, a perfect and just judge, will judge them based on the light that they have received. Romans Ch.1 says that everyone is given some knowledge of the creator and will be judged according to what they do with that knowlede. For us though, we have heard the message and are without excuse. :)
- johannes0
I sometimes wonder if George Bush's declarations of faith are a ruse to hide his allegiance to satanism
- Kuz0
so what there's no hell or purgatory or noffink discipler? no punishment after death?
sweet! what an easy ride. I'm a good guy, i'll go to heaven regardless xxx
- discipler0
Kuz, the metaphor of unquenching fire that Jesus used was in order describe the agony that one will experience in an eternity of dark seperation from the love they chose not to receive as a free gift. God doesn't send anyone to hell... we choose of our own volition. :)
See, there is only one provision for mankind's sin: Christ. If we choose to reject this free gift, then there's no provision left for our sin nature (which God cannot have in his prescence).
- _smk0
cool, I'll be going to hell then, but cheers for the info anyway :)