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- Ok apparently I'm under a different impression of what salary I should be expecting, 40K seemed like a lot to me....LOLeighteen
- Eighteen, see Sagamiester & Walsh thread for how to get a head in advertising...robotron3k
- Thanks robo but im not a bitter old man yet XDeighteen
- getting there though...eighteen
It doesn't happen only in advertising. I think you're talking about salesmen, not necessarily "bullshitters" although they can fall under the same category as well.
I currently work with someone who went from being a Product Analyst making 70K to Product Manager at 120K, and having his own office (we work in an open space) in only 6 fucking months. He came from a financial background with no experience in web development. All that because he is a great salesman.
This isn't "bullshitting". It doesn't matter that you think everyone else is doing it. Making up experience is lying, and fraud, and will get you found out and fired and remembered.
Older designers like me will see through it right quick in your work and how you act and call your bitch ass out in front of everyone. Frankly I cant fucking wait for such a chance.
Do hard work and suck it up.
- Why not do both? I'm not talking about straight up lying here just stretching the truth and leveraging marketing knowledge for personal gain.eighteen
- Actually fuck it idk what I'm talking about.eighteen
- though I appreciate your candoreighteen
What?? 40K is a low salary??
Sorry but until I went to college being paid anything above minimum wage was out of the question. I haven't really prepared for marketing myself for salary positions and I never had a conversation about wages in college with any of my professors. But maybe I should, because I assumed ANY job with any salary would be a win coming straight out of college.
I'm applying for a Senior Graphic Designer job right now because it's one of the only opportunities in my small city. Indeed.com estimates the wage at 50-60K. It's a longshot but worth it for that opportunity. Every other "design" job in my town though advertises $20/hour at best.
Until some of my classmates got hired I did not even dream of landing a salary position with my amount of experience (2 years). Maybe that's partly my fault for not setting my sights high enough. I'm also not in a major city, which I'm guessing most of you are and are gauging the job market there as your basis for salary expectations.
- How much your salary is worth depends on the cost of living in your area, $40k in NYC isn't the same as in Biloxi.zarkonite
- Minimum wage is up to $15/hr an hour in some places. So if you have an education and skills, you should be worth triple that.omahadesigns
Simple: Don't do it.
I definitely titled this thread incorrectly
Junior designer is 38-50K
Senior Designer is 55-90K
Art Director may be 120K
Creative Director is 150K
If you have skills that will help a company, don't sell yourself short.
If you don't have refined skills, there's people on Craigslist who may hire you for $12-$20/hr to be a computer wizard. Or just find a shitty company that needs someone like you.