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- set-21
Hey, mekk, I asked you to please provide us with evidence that 5G is safe. You haven't. You can't, because there is none.
Yet you're happy for them to go ahead and install 20,000 satellites in orbit beaming this technology to every inch of earth. Is that right? Or am I somehow misunderstanding your lunacy?
- What logical human being would downvote this? lolset
- Scary what kinds of people exist out there.set
- Mekk hasn't replied so that says it all really. Lunatics, everywhere. And they think I'm the lunatic. Life is funny.set
- TWENTY THREE downotes for suggesting something should be tested for safety before being rolled out. WOW. YOU LOT ARE FUCKED. FUCKED!!!! lol I'm done.set
- the votes are someone having fun. ... its not you is it?deathboy
- BabySnakes5
Seems tough to have a discussion with so many belittling remarks. Has the 5G bee switched on already? Is that cause of the hostility?
- You're right. I find it difficult not to express my frustration and sadness sometimes. I know what I'm saying sounds utterly bonkers. Sadly it is the truth.set
- Fax_Benson14
A basic overview
- seems a fairly balanced, objective summaryFax_Benson
- yepfadein11
- That's too boring. Needs more alarmism, generalization and conclusion jumpingyuekit
- hans_glib7
i'll admit i'm totally ignorant about this, but there does seem to be more than a whiff of the antivaxxor hysteria about 5g.
then again there may well be something to their argument, i dunno. the hysteria makes me a little suspicious tho, as well as the fact that it's quite hard to find first hand information - teh interwebz is flooded with copycat doom mongers, and trying to dig out source info is quite hard
i did find some material on the ericsson website ( https://www.ericsson.com/en/whit… ) - from the little i've gathered (and understood) about the 5g transmitters is that they only focus their rayguns on receivers and transmitters. so presumably if you don't want to be irradiated then you just need to make sure you don't have a receiver/transmitter, ie a 5g enabled phone.
- it's the dawn of pervasive computing - 'the internet of things if you will' though, the idea is there will be a transmitter in your everything...kingsteven
- i want to know more about how devices will 'focus' these signals. i think that part of 5G (the undeveloped technology that will work in the 2 - 100GHz bands)kingsteven
- is the scariest, as it will probably rely on bouncing signals between devices over short distances...kingsteven
- so you've got 5 things on your desk, beaming information between themselves. the coffee machine behind you is low, they're all equidistant to your skull...kingsteven
- Or just don’t have iot devices...hans_glib
- i was at a thing years ago where a guy demonstrated focusing audio on a spot using beat frequencies generated between two HF transmitters...kingsteven
- i see the mad conspiracies, but there is an element of 'what i cant see wont harm me' about the sceptics... it seems like a new era of spectral pollution to me.kingsteven
- aye, but the old school futurist in me knows this technology can make our lives better, the problem is it's incompatibility with capitalism.kingsteven
- like animals thriving in chernobyl because cancers wont effect them in their natural lifetime someone somewhere is weighing up the risks of this technology inkingsteven
- terms of profit vs insurance payouts...kingsteven
- i'm setting up a workshop atm and looking at fine dust extraction (the dust you can't see) looking at the regulation for companies isn't at all close to thekingsteven
- recommendations, meanwhile folks in mills are developing cancers in their retirement. every mill would go bankrupt if recommendations were enforced...kingsteven
- same with vehicle emissions, smoking... you cant say the risks aren't real, you can only say that's how society chooses to fuck itself for profit.kingsteven
- and easier to dismiss the definitively negative side-effects have when they have a latency of decadesFax_Benson
- Finally some intelligent people ^set
- deadsperm3
It all started with fluoride though
- not really, conspiracies are part of human nature. the more you fear death, lack control, or have expectations of a bad outcome the more likely you are tokingsteven
- embrace the truth.deadsperm
- believe them. the weaponisation of folks against conspiracy theorists is a method of control... and not very flattering tbh.kingsteven
- listen to what they say and make your own mind up.kingsteven
- username checks outmekk
- Fluoride calcifies your pineal gland, your third eye. People rub it into their gums day and night when they brush their teeth.set
- No wonder many of you have not even an ounce of intuition.set
- oofmekk
- ernexbcn9
Are these concerns for real or is this another vaccines are bad bullshit? there's a surprising amount of stupidity being passed as facts lately.
- Read the article Fax posted below, it explains whats going on well. I'm mostly concerned that folks are so willing not to be concerned.kingsteven
- ^ yes, it is incredibly scary. Utter fucking fuckwit zombies, everywhere.set
- Nairn19
Not sure where satellites come into the 5G question - they won't emit that sort of radiation as that's not the realm or scope it's intended for (short distance and wavelength). I'd be more concerned about other military radiation like radars and such. But heck, even if 20,000 satellites in low orbit are somehow emitting unhealthy radiation - you have to take into account the low power generation and density of these type of small-fry satellties. There's simply no physical way such devices could cause humans physical or health problems at ground level, even if we didn't have an atmosphere that soaks up 5G... .
If there were a multitude of satellites up there with multi-megawatt fusion generators I'd start getting concerned, but there's just no way solar on small satellite can generate enough energy to cause anything like worrisome problems.
I don't really think that 5G will be a health catastrophe for humans - I may well be wrong (especially kids in small rooms with high concentrations of always-on wireless) - but there's enough people smarter than I to be asking the right questions and doing the right research to highlight if this will be a problem. It's just a form of radiation, and if there's one thing we've done since we evolved from oxygen-consuming surface-dwelling eukaryotes is create defences against radiation. Heck, as a ginger I'm quite aware of biological difference in this regard.
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I do, however, worry about what effect this sort of thing - and I'd include 4G and contemporary wavelengths in this - has on creatures smaller than us. I've entertained the suspicion for a while now that high particulate emissions and cell tower radiation might have a part to play in our problems with apparent insect die-offs.
I don't think they're getting fried and I don't think they've time to develop cancers and the sort of conditions that we humans fret about, but I do wonder if we're fundamentally missing some aspect of their physiology and perception of the world that is we're simply blind to, because of our difference in scale.
Anyway, there's this, which you can wade through...
Exposure of Insects to Radio-Frequency Electromagnetic Fields from 2 to 120 GHz
- Whoooops, that was a bit longer than I intended. Sorry!Nairn
- Pesticides have been highly implicated in colony collapse disorder.sarahfailin
- solar radiation > 5g radiation. no need to worry.dorf
- https://5g.co.uk/new…set
- Do you know what backhaul is, set?Nairn
- Yes, the opposite of fronthaulset
- and 90 degrees from sidehaulset
- Just because they're not beaming the 5G themselves, doesn't make it any less dangerous, the planet being covered in 5Gset
- I should say any less significant, rather than dangerous.set
- Why am I still here? :)set
- yeah we would have died long ago if all this crap was truemekk
- Nairn6
I'd add - Another way to look at this, or any other question of radiative emission, is to ask what the sensitivity and detection capacity of the receiving widget is.
Radio receivers in phones and tech are incredibly sensitive - they need to reeive very, very little energy to make their connection.
Given that you consider the engineering of a system as a whole, with economies to consider, why would you put more energy into the system than is required?
The levels of energy required to make a digital connection are way lower than the sort of thing you need to worry about boiling water molecules in your body. If that's happening, someone's losing money.
- the only thing i know of that works in 20GHz bands are those huge parabolic transmitters... the whole this seems very oddkingsteven
- *thing. i mean, they're big ass dishes fixed in locations for line of sight transmission. i just don't get how that can be made practical for devices.kingsteven
- given that 5G will also run in 4G allocation how much of the higher frequency stuff is hype fuelled by consumer demand for faster wireless connectivity?kingsteven
- No ones bodily fluid is going to boil. They're changing our frequency. They're changing our energy body to vibrate on a different frequency.set
- Everything in this world is designed to keep us away from our true power. To be creator beings. To dream. To create our own world with our intent.set
- We are gods being manipulated in to thinking we are nothing but material beings with no power. This is a prison planet.set
- But yea, I'm the nutcase.set
- 5G will stop the few of us that are able to visit the second attention, the astral, whatever you want to call it, because they are attacking our energy bodyset
- the body most of you don't even know exists. . This world is a dream and this planet is a prison.set
- Most people only have the tiniest energy body. All that can be experienced with that is self reflection. Only to see the world from your own tiny view point...set
- ... in reference to yourself. While you go about all day incessantly talking to yourself in your head. Telling yourself the world is the way it is.set
- Learn to stop the talking in your head, which by the way is not you but a parasite, and you will see the truth that I speak of.set
- Until then I'm wasting my time and getting myself upset, to no end. I think maybe humanity deserves it's fate. Can ignorance be punished? I'm not sure.set
- You are not your thoughts, you are the silence inbetween. You are the one listening to your thoughts, thinking that it is you. It is not.set
- Fortunately most people are able to not listen to that bizarre voice that quickly says 'stick it in her' when you're chopping your onionsset
- or the voice that says push her off when you're sitting on a cliff edge with your loved one. Luckily we still maintain a small degree of controlset
- but every single thought you here in your head is that same parasite, telling you the world is the way it is, convincing you of it's agenda. Stop listening.set
- Remove the parasite and you can see the truth I speak of for yourself.set
- Yours
A fucking nutcase.set
- shoes12
The health hazard that I find more concerning than chemtrails or 5G is the unnamed global memetic pandemic brought on by David Icke exposure. Depending on the amount of exposure it manifests as mild but escalating dissociative disorders, sometimes leading to more severe pathologies like schizophasia and paranoid delusions, and quite possibly brain cancer. That's the real scary stuff. They can't provide us with evidence that Icke exposure is safe because there is none.
I kind of wish there actually was a genocidal jewish pedophile kabbala, courtesy of the lizard people NWO, so that the Alex Joneses and David Ickes and their shitspreading disciples would be snuffed out. Cleansing the global consciousness, with 5G disruptors from orbit.
Alas it is delusion all.
- The delusional think the sane are delusional.set
- Bless you. Maybe one day you'll realise your mistake. Maybe you'll die ignorant.set
- Set, I’m not sure if you’re having a go there or not, but when we have access to a ridiculous amount of information via the internet, it’s easy...Ianbolton
- ... to see how fake news and flat earth conspiracies become more contagious. When you’re suggesting how do we know the earth is round? I know it is...Ianbolton
- Because I understand how technology works and I’ve seen the complex mapping systems, for example, using nautical information to guide us ROUND the worldIanbolton
- JoeRogan14
- I;m not saying the earth is flat but none of you ignorant fucks know for sure the earth is round. Just saying. Open your minds a bit you shits :)set
- I know for certain that the earth is round. Don't be foolish.nb
- If you really think it's not possible to tell for yourself that Earth is round, you might want to refrain from telling other people about science.nb
- Go outside and look around.nb
- Amazing how we're supposed to "look into" how the Earth is flat, but you ignorant lot can't be bothered to "look into" science. Oh, wait, you have looked intoPublicVoice
- science, and have, in your infinite wisdom, determined that you are smarter than the collective science of centuries.
You could be right, but we doubt it.PublicVoice - There goes his credibilityLotLizard
- How does gravity work on a flat surface? Think about gravity and you can only conclude a sphere.shapesalad
- he argues that you don't know the earth isn't flat, not because he believes it... but the earth isn't a sphere and gravity is a construct of theoretical physicskingsteven
- the idea that the earth is spherical and that gravity is a force that pulls objects directly to the ground are both pseudo scientific fallacies :)kingsteven
- so he has a point.kingsteven
- LOL
okmoldero - is that john taffer?CALLES
- I live for this shit.XanderCage
- set-11
This right here reminds me that I literally may as well be talking to a mentally retarded golden retriever. I'm done.
- You take the piss out of flat earthers but a lot of you here are the people that scoffed at the earth being round all those years ago. Haha, couldn't make it upset
- I don't think the earth is round, but hey who am I to say for sure what we're on. I haven't seen it.set
- but you're so sure of yourselves aren't you. Just like the people in the dark ages that were sure the earth was flat, haha. I'm seriously done.set
- Ta for the gigglesset
- that's probably one person. the thread itself seems to have been fairly useful for a few of us.Fax_Benson
- I apologise for my expletives. It's hard not to show the sadness and disappointment I have in humanity. I am sorry for not being able to better communicate.set
- I don't think the earth is flat* LOLset
- What are we arguing about here? Is it that 5g has some possible health risks, or that it's a plot by sentient asteroids to kill us all?yuekit
- You're just casually mentioning these theories about alternate dimensions and energy vibrations like it's the most obvious thing in the world. What reactionyuekit
- did you expect exactly set? :)yuekit
- set-10
These are my closing statements, now you're all very much aware of what a nutcase I am, from your very small reference point.
https://www.qbn.com/reply/392885…
I allow qbn to lower my vibration, because it upsets me to see first hand how ignorant and sure of themselves people are. it's sad. What I'm doing here isn't benefiting me and it doesn't look like it'll benefit anyone else, so I'll shut up now. QBN has been a great distraction from this world sometimes but ultimately it does me more harm than good.
I still have hope for you all, but it's dwindling day by day. I still don't know whether the state of affairs here on earth is sad, or whether ultimately it really doesn't matter.
- are you ok? been pretty chill response in this thread though seems you keep trying to pick a fight, but no-one is biting.inteliboy
- qbn is not the people you need to be angry at.inteliboy
- if there is some kind of seriously fucked up problem, spread the word, we're listening. even if we're throwing counter arguments at you.inteliboy
- "it upsets me to see first hand how ignorant and sure of themselves people are" so much lolTOMMYxGUNN
- _niko0
From reading that wired article above, I’m all against it.
Not because of potential health risks which may or may not be true, we just don’t know yet.
My objection is to the massive infrastructure needed. They need to build towers or receiving stations every 500 meters apart for this to work???? Wtf???
The cost is going to be astronomical and that’ll get passed down to us. Paying up the ass for technology we didn’t ask for and don’t need.
4g and even 3G is more than enough power for what 99.9999% of the population use their cel phones for.
Facebook, Instagram, porn hub and set psb battles.- But maybe if it helps the internet of things live up to its long promised potential and smart cities finally become a thing it’ll be worth it_niko
- I do wonder if this IOT stuff is overhyped. Similar to blockchain, the real-world applications that are actually useful may be more limited than people areyuekit
- imagining. How necessary is it to have every appliance in your house connected to a network for instance?yuekit
- Invaluable to corporations but for us it’ll makes us lazier and dumber._niko
- imagine the irony of the 5G enabled IOT gathering data to solve the riddle of cancer and determining the biggest risk is 5G lol_niko
- but if this can make our streets safer help prevent crime and let our kids play freely anywhere by themselves I'm all for it._niko
- Think of future use. These arguments that "current tech is good enough" are always wrong. Same has been said many times in the past...zarkonite
- feel4
Some good animation to explain what it is, the misinformation about 5G does sound like a foreing power trying to dumb us down, while the tech is safe like any other, I mean... you should be worried about the first G, not the fifth one lol
- pablo28-15
- ernexbcn12
No offense, but I think I could find a hundred things to be concerned more about than 5G. We got this incredible thing called the internet with access to so much knowledge, yet also so easy for people to fell into conspiracies and misinformation.
- My problem in this case is the lack of information, governmental bodies are selling the rights to use these frequencies before the technology has been developedkingsteven
- and doing so in such a forceful way (primarily the FCC) that they're inviting the conspiricy theories. There aren't many technologies using these wavelengthskingsteven
- So noone can tell you that the level of exposure that the FCC is permitting is safe, the information does not exist.kingsteven
- As with every other mobile technology, the next generation is rolled out on existing guidelines. it probably wont kill us all vs profit disguised as progresskingsteven
- I the folks triggered by sets theories aren't actually searching out information themselves, probably wont kill us all but it is fucked up.kingsteven
- there is abundant information about the frequency spectrum 5G will use, do not spread FUDernexbcn
- i'm no expert in these matters i'm simply saying that saying that the information isn't out there to conclude that it's not going to have negative effectskingsteven
- and it's being handled in such a way that it invites conspiracy... i mentioned the FCC and you know RT are just exploiting that to secure a bigger slice of thekingsteven
- pie for Russia, it doesn't mean it's safe...kingsteven
- There really aren't any new technologies that don't affect us in a negative way. The radiation from just the screens is fucking us and our children up.formed
- There is enough evidence out there to warrant real research (high tension causes severe problems, for example). We rush forward, at least in the US, withformed
- anything that brings profits (GMO's, RoundUp, etc.). I tend to believe everything does something, how much we don't know.formed
- where were you guys when all the current radio frequencies were established?ernexbcn
- i was on a higher astral plane and then boom, qbn all over my nokiakingsteven
- ernexbcn6
Are you seriously going to trust RT?
- mekk19
Set be like entering the motorway on the wrong side and trying to convince everyone to turn around.
