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  • Krassy3

    The big picture is China's imperialistic ambitions to rule (the economies, for starters of) most of Asia and parts of Europe, Africa, Russia, and South & North America - check out BRI (Belt and Road Initiative)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be…


    • They can't even rule TaiwanBustySaintClaire
    • This is serious.
      Also read this: https://www.theatlan…
      grafician
    • it is VERY serious, indeedKrassy
    • yup, they've been playing the long gamemoldero
    • This is worth paying attention to, but the fear is somewhat overblown considering the USA already does the same thing x 100.yuekit
    • Are we saying no one can be imperialists but us? The reality is that of course China, India and others will be more powerful in the future, given the size ofyuekit
    • their populations and economy. But I don't think anyone is going to accept China "ruling" them.yuekit
    • this is just the result of another strategy. it started around 2000 with BRICS. Alliance of the biggest nations by population.uan
    • they felt underrepresented in international institutions and started creating banks, rating agencies, monetary funds to push development in those regions.uan
    • Not sure who came up with the name. “Belt" refers to the overland routes for road and rail transportat; whereas "road" refers to sea transport.”Chimp
    • It's all geopolitics. But whoever gets into Africa and builds the most, they get the upper hand in decades to follow. Africa is the key of the future...grafician
    • they promoted the idea with the ancient silk road as model for a peacefull coexistence of cultures. they proposed a china-alaska-america route in early days.uan
    • China ruling over India? LOLzarkonite
    • ideologically they base that idea in confusianism (not sure about spelling) and not any more on maoism.uan
    • China can’t peacefully coexist with their own population without, quite literally, exterminating the non-homogenousGnash
    • ‘A model of peaceful....’ lol. It was about the gold - like it was for everyone else.Gnash
    • yep that‘s what chinese / hongkong / taiwan friends tell also, they don‘t mess with the party, they don‘t need to because life is good and free.uan
    • but it‘s clear they fear the corruption and sheer power they have due to the indoctrination in china.uan
    • @yuekit, no one will have to accept, it will just happend. One step at a time, by buying and owning everything, they'll get to the higher step or the same as USBennn
    • Bennn take a look here:
      https://i.imgur.com/…
      yuekit
    • Military spending comparison
      https://www.pgpf.org…
      yuekit
    • Now imagine those graphics referred to China rather than the US, you guys would really be freaking out right? :)yuekit
    • you don't understand, China doesn't to make war to the USA, they want economical power. Chinese love money more than you can imagine. And Money = Power.Bennn
    • *doesn't wantBennn
    • OK but at some point you have to ask, why wouldn't a country with 4 times the population of USA have the same or more economic power?yuekit
    • But but USA. Isn’t an argumentGnash
    • Of course ,China has the right to do whatever the fuck they want. That doesn’t mean one can’t have legitimate reason to criticize.Gnash
    • I’d rather Canada take over the world - because it’s my country and I trust it more than China. I’m sure they feel the same wayGnash
    • I don’t like the idea of a genocidal and autocratic welding that sort of power. And as fucked as the USA is, I’d rather it be them, than ChinaGnash
    • I'm just trying to put things in perspective. In a global free market, why wouldn't you expect the regions with the most people, whether it's China, India,yuekit
    • Africa, to have a lot of power? The USA has 4% of the world's population and we take for granted that it should be the world leader. Putting aside the negativeyuekit
    • aspects of China's system, I do think this is going to change within our lifetimes.yuekit
    • you can put aside the negative aspects, if you like, I won't. concentration camps aren't just 'negative,'Gnash
    • I don't see a regime change happening anytime soon, and until they do I think it's perfectly reasonable to question their motives as a world powerGnash
    • and like I said, of course they have a right to participate in a the world's free market. I'm not questioning that right.Gnash
    • Just as the rest of the world has the right to limit their trade with china until they get their most basic of human rights issues fixedGnash
    • and that's not in anyway endorsing the way the USA manages their own shit. But to reiterate, i'd much rather the US be 'the' world power, than china.Gnash
    • Maybe we don't want a single world power running things?yuekit
    • Nope. I mean, aside from the rothchilds, of courseGnash
    • Yes bring back the reptilians, haven't we done enough damage by now?yuekit
  • utopian0

    • 2018sted
    • 2020
      https://www.youtube.…
      utopian
    • 2018, 2019, 2020 same differenceutopian
    • 2020 is the year when the hk opposition was shut down. most of the leaders are in jail.sted
    • that guy who runs "China Uncensored" channel is a lunatic, makes many bad conclusions, constantly suspecting nothing but evil.sted
    • time to start learning mandarinmoldero
    • @sted Agreed it's weird and a little scary to see people getting most of their news about China from people like that.yuekit
    • This guy, an ex-member of the CCP, is now paying Steve Bannon millions to agitate against China.
      https://www.youtube.…
      yuekit
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  • Bennn2

    ''China's march through the South Pacific: How the communist superpower is quietly 'invading' Australia's cash-strapped neighbours - and why you should be worried''

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news…

    ''''They believe that they're supposed to be the rightful leaders of this new global order. The British century, the American century, now we're going to have the Chinese century. That's their vision.'''''

    • release virus to destroy economies, then buy up dollars(this is true) and foreign companies shares when they're dirt cheap, then have boardroom influence...shapesalad
  • nb4

    https://freakonomics.com/podcast…

    Freakonomics Podcast Ep 414:
    "Will Covid-19 Spark a Cold War (or Worse) With China?"

    Holy shit, this is an eye-opener! Excellent guests. Opposite sides of the spectrum but they somehow 'mostly agree' on almost every problem.

  • yuekit0

    Protests return to Hong Kong

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  • Gnash4

    France dismissed Chinese warnings on Wednesday about selling arms to self-ruled Taiwan, saying it was implementing existing deals and that Beijing should focus on battling the COVID-19 pandemic.

    https://news.trust.org/item/2020…

  • utopian1

    US says China trying to steal COVID-19 vaccine as markets slump

    Chinese hackers are trying to steal COVID-19 vaccine research, US authorities said Wednesday, ratcheting up tensions between the superpowers as markets slumped on warnings from the US Federal Reserve that prolonged shutdowns could cause "lasting damage."

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/europ…

    • Each and everyday, I hate China a little bit more. These fuckers just don't know when to hit the pause button.utopian
    • First they murder hundreds of thousands of innocent people with the Wuhan virus and then they wreck the global economy.utopian
    • Fuck off China!utopian
    • #gy-na!renderedred
    • China is slowly getting to the top of the hillBennn
    • ^ not slowlyKrassy
    • you're right, they're getting there pretty quickly actuallyBennn
  • utopian1

    NASA researcher arrested over alleged secret China connections.

    The FBI arrested University of Arkansas professor Simon Saw-Teong Ang, 63, for allegedly defrauding NASA and the university "by failing to disclose that he held other positions at a Chinese university and Chinese companies".

    https://www.independent.co.uk/ne…

    • Does China just steal everyone’s IP, is that their business model?Gnash
    • Indeed GnashNBQ00
    • but Nazi Wernher von Braun was ok thoughmoldero
    • True, but at least the USA was also making their own stuff with their own R+D.Gnash
    • Instead of reverse engineering and stealing IP as a primary strategyGnash
  • Gnash4

    Europe halts delivery of 10 million 'poor quality' Chinese masks

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2…

  • NBQ000

    Something is brewing

    • https://i.imgur.com/…Bluejam
    • Sure let's start a war right now, what could possibly go wrong lolyuekit
    • Then again...Tim Pool reading a Daily Mail article? Not sure any of what he's saying is actually true.yuekit
    • Tim pool is like that friend that disagrees with everything you saymoldero
    • https://youtu.be/IZy…
      Abby Martin did a report a month ago about us military and what is happening worldwide.
      uan
  • yuekit2

    After a failed two-year campaign to stop China’s Huawei Technologies from leading the world’s rollout of 5G mobile broadband, the Trump Administration announced the so-called nuclear option, asserting control over sales of computer chips made anywhere in the world with US equipment.

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/05/tr…

    • then let Americans build and deploy their own 5G networks. What's that you say? They're mouth breathing tinfoil hat wearing ludites who are burning cell towers?_niko
    • The Gov just puts out 5G licenses, the telecoms buy/bid on those, but the telecoms use what tech they want. Either Huawey or Ericsson...grafician
    • Ericsson 5G is more robust and thus more expensive, Huawey is basically made in china cheap basic tech.grafician
    • But the issue here and everywhere is that because Huawey tech is cheap and so bad , it can be h acked by every body easily!grafician
    • And on top of that they're also a chinese company...grafician
    • But the big irony is that while major Govs ban Huawey tech, the ppl still use Huawei 5G smarphones lolgrafician
    • So this is more of a "block the door, but leave the windows open" situation.grafician
    • That’s goodGnash
  • utopian10

    Lion, bat and pangolin off the menu as Chinese city of Wuhan bans consumption of wild animals

    https://www.marketwatch.com/stor…

    Finally!

    • BOUT FUCKING TIME! ONLY THE RICK EAT THAT EXPENSIVE VIRUS INFESTED SHIT!pango
    • yeah fuck Rick!moldero
    • fucker!moldero
    • rickety rick no bat soup for youutopian
    • Might as well ban the consumption of alien facehuggers and baby dinosaurs while at it, by the looks of those...grafician
    • Rick loves alien facehuggers and baby dinosaurs. They can't screw with Rick like that.capn_ron
    • rick is patient zerorenderedred
    • So that’s one city down...Gnash
    • how many cities sells that do you know?pango
    • Black market and normal markets will continue to sell them. It's just an headline for the mass media.Bennn
    • benn you sure about normal market?pango
    • i've actually lived in asia, and china particular. never have i ever seen a fucking pangolin or bat in any market.pango
    • and seriously been wondering which mother fucker's been eating them?!?!?!?!pango
    • Savagesi_was
    • Yes just a headline, they will continue.i_was
    • its the right direction to go. or would you rather prefer "fuck y'all! bats are now sold in every super market!"pango
    • "develope those immunity quicker! ass holes!"pango
    • Ya, probably was just one market in one city. Just lazy journalists making shit up for laughsGnash
    • How ignorant would someone have to be to buy and eat wild bats after this?yuekit
    • Still, wet market is one way a virus like this can spread. The bigger trend is humans cutting down forests, taking away habitat of bats and other animals.yuekit
    • It would be a mistake to think this could only happen via animal markets or only in China. The same coronavirus carrying bats exist all over the world includingyuekit
    • in North America.yuekit
    • Bats and Pangolins are our allies, they'll fight for us.i_was
    • yes dolphins are the real enemy. fuck em.pango
    • @pango Just ask for (insert name) at the back, he will hook you up with what you want.... .... Know what I mean?Bennn
    • again. you can still buy cocaine, should it be legal then?! what about gun control? fuck it! nothing is working!pango
  • yuekit2

    Activists call for Hong Kong to rise up against new security laws

    https://www.reuters.com/article/…

  • yuekit0

    Asian century began in May 2020

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/05/th…

    • If China reaches self-sufficiency in chip production quickly, the last stronghold of US tech dominance will fall.sted
    • only low-level geeks in the tech industry believe that bullshit.sted
    • Mazel tov, they’ve finally stolen enough tech to make their ownGnash
    • 20 years ago, we gave them menial manufacturing jobs, and they spread pollution, corruption and plague around the planet, and now the world aligns against themBustySaintClaire
    • 40 years ago, we decided to get rid of factories, and move manufacturing jobs to asia.sted
    • Last week china’s still in the genocide bizGnash
  • pango-3

  • pango0

    • you guys talk like pangolin is a common thing "normal market" *roll eyes.pango
    • "but its still gonna be sold in black market"
      you can still buy cocaine, should it be legal then?! what about gun control? fuck it! nothing is working!
      pango
    • that is not a wet market, rolls eyes.utopian
    • fake new!
      nothing is real!
      go drink bleach!
      pango
    • "Before we get down to brass tacks, it needs to be noted that in February the government banned basically the entirety of the farmed-wildlife industry."sted
    • Video was published on Apr 5, 2020.sted
    • "well... you live in Foshan. It's Guangdong. It's a rich part of China, not representative. Plus! You spend all of 20 seconds in the meat sectionsted
    • ...on the defense he linked a 20 min video from 2019 dec 31. what basically shows zero meat kiosks on that market...sted
    • enters the meat section shows two places next to each other, and talks about the lights lolsted
    • how about someone who has actually shopped at those markets? me. telling you that's a accurate representation of most wet markets.pango
    • wet market in april 2020, 2019, 2018 aint gonna be so fucking different.
      here an person who actually been to those market, telling you markets that sells exotic
      pango
    • animals are rare. are you gonna go flatearther on me? "those videos are manipulate, you work for government agency trying to hide the truth"pango
    • and let it be on the record, i think CPC is fucking shady.pango
    • you guys are seriously like the comments section of youtube.pango
    • The floor looks pretty weti_was
    • No need for exotics when they eat 'domestics' ... google images for Yulin Dog Meat FestivalBustySaintClaire
    • yes the floor is wet?pango
    • yes "yulin" dog Meat Festivalpango
    • Why should we believe you, huh? Huh? Your name is suspiciously close to "pangolin". Coincidence? Wake up, sheeple!jagara
    • @pango I just copy-pasted the issues with his "revelations", these videos do more harm than good. first of all it does not allow in any form to get to know thested
    • culture. second why can't you start with the sentence I copy-pasted form the guys yt comment?
      thus leaving the viewer with many bases of assumption
      sted
    • and you don't have to convince me.sted
    • you want me to hold your hands too? and give you a pet on the head telling you how much of a good job you're doing?pango
    • oh i didn't know you actually copied from youtube comments. me talking about yt comments were purely coincidental. lolpango
    • Pangolin burgers, almost as good as Donkey burgers.shapesalad
    • so we should trust a guy who present ONE market? A guy who seems to live in China and, I guess, really love China and the culture... and want to defend it.Bennn
    • I want you to hold my hand.
      Hold my hand, pango.
      Let's be 'buddies'.
      Continuity
    • @benn how about me telling you that's how it is?pango
    • did you know pango wants to change the name of 'British Columbia' bc Columbus spread diseases in the new world upon visiting it? --Oh the irony.hotroddy
    • Ya, let’s all pretend that it’s just one secret, cloaked, market in Wuhan that rich people have secret access to. LolGnash
    • lol ya keep telling us how much you know about it.pango
    • changing BC's name? couldn't care less. if it gets changed? *shrug. but i wouldn't push for it cuz its gonna cost me money.
      i don't see the irony...
      pango
    • it wasn't a cloaked market. it was a legal market. In fact people did try to ban exotic animal but it got lifted cuz of private lobbying.pango
    • It’s still legal via the TCM loophole they left in. and it’s only a 5-year ban. #covid2025Gnash
    • that does sound concerning. if its true. its the first thing anyone of you said that's not completely stupid.pango
    • I know it wasn’t’ a ‘cloaked’ market - hence my use of “pretend”. you’re pushing this false narrative that it’s this one-off, localized and rare occurrence.Gnash
    • Which it most certainly is not.Gnash
    • false narrative? fuck off. i'm saying its not as common as you all think it is.
      have you been to one? how many are there?
      pango
    • go try to find 1 person who has actually had bats or pangolin. ozzy doesn't count.pango
    • Let's be honest. None of you know fuck all about these markets, nor have you ever been to China nor lived in China to have seen and lived among them whatsoever.Khurram
    • These "wet markets" are basically markets where they sell live animals and slaughter them in the same place. They exist over the entire "developing" worldKhurram
    • There's hundreds all over Thailand, in Bangkok, SE Asia, Africa, Latin America, India, Pakistan. That's how people have bought their meat for centuries.Khurram
    • That's still how you buy your lobsters. Pick an animal, kill an animal, cook an animal, eat an animal.Khurram
    • And I don't even know how Pangolins got dragged into this. They look delicious, by the way. You have no idea it has anything to do with PangolinsKhurram
    • The animal that produces coronaviruses is bats. And it always goes from bats >> domestic farm animal >> humans. Not straight from bats to humans.Khurram
    • That's how MERS happened (camels), that's how avian flu happened (chickens). Everyone's acting liek afucking expert nowKhurram
    • Plus TURTLES! White people used to eat turtles right up until the last century. Turtle soup was a fucking thing: https://www.tasteofh…Khurram
    • If you can eat turtles, why can't you eat pangolins?Khurram
    • Pango, you’re being intentionally dense or you are dense. I never once said they are EVERYWHERE. But you’re talking like there’s just a couple of them around’Gnash
    • And what's that twat talking about dogs?? We've co-evolved with them since the beginning of time. There's no bother with dogs.Khurram
    • An oddity. And they’re not.Gnash
    • Of course they are all over the world, Khurram. What’s the point? And it’s not like buying lobster a Loblaws, ffsGnash
    • And it’s not just about food, many of the exotics as used in TCM. Nothing like eating wolf puppies for extra boner powerGnash
    • You're the one being dense. I never said you said it's it's everywhere. But you-all talk like it's everywhere.pango
    • Ugh.Gnash
    • and to demonstrate how uncommon it is. i want you to find someone who had eaten pangolin. or bat.pango
    • Fffs, you’re right. They sell them as pets. It’s not ‘Wet’, it’s Pet!Gnash
    • What’s the fucking difference if they eat them or grind up their testicles and make tea for boners?Gnash
    • They sell the fuckers in wet markets! Maybe you don’t drink pangolin blood, but enough people do to sell the fuckers in stallsGnash
    • No one is saying every other person in China has a bag full bat heads they carry for snacks, ffs.Gnash
    • What's wrong with pangolins??!! They look delicious!Khurram
    • pango isn't dense, he is just fed up with all this bullshit, what I can completely understand. stay safe cunts i have to go to the market for some skippy meat.sted
    • lolsted
    • The bullshit that exotic animals don’t help with boners and cancer, or the bullshit of ignoring the reality that this exotic animal economy is huge in China?Gnash
    • Lol. The belief that one acquires the properties of an animal that you consume, isn’t specific to China.Gnash
    • But if feeds a massive industry there.Gnash
    • @Khurram - I've lived throughout Latin America. That's a load of BS! Maybe just in Africa and the Orientalhotroddy
    • and in africa they poach lions, elephants, rhino's to export to CHINA black markethotroddy
    • To be fair, hotroddy. They drink a whole lotta bat blood in Bolivia.Gnash
    • i wouldn't put it past bolivia. it's poor and landlocked and primarily an indian populationhotroddy
    • Thanks for that anecdote hotroddy. But the point stands.Khurram
  • Gnash1

    China drops word 'peaceful' in latest push for Taiwan 'reunification'

    https://www.reuters.com/article/…

    • interesting. current president is opposed to reunification. and after how well they did on preventing the pandemic, they have the most citizens' support.pango
    • The majority in Taiwan have opposed unification way before this pandemicGnash
    • true. the majority has been for a long time. but pro-unification side has been on the rise for the last 2 decades. last election one of the front runningpango
    • presidential candidate was pro china.pango
    • cpc is putting on more pressure because anti unification side is getting even more support.pango
    • Yes the KMT (conservative party) are the more pro China side in Taiwan as I understand it. China really didn't want the current leader to be reelected.yuekit
    • China wants Taiwan like Rassa wants Ukraine, weird to see how they follow the same tactics like rassa does with that poor country.sted
    • Chinese Taipei you mean!_niko
    • During the election there was even some rumors that the KMT candidate, a "right wing populist" was actually a trojan horse for China.yuekit
    • And this time a year ago, he was probably the favorite to win. But the Hong Kong protests changed the entire political landscape.yuekit
    • niko. if you want to be technical. it's R.O.C or even China Taipeipango