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  • Krassy3

    The big picture is China's imperialistic ambitions to rule (the economies, for starters of) most of Asia and parts of Europe, Africa, Russia, and South & North America - check out BRI (Belt and Road Initiative)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be…


    • They can't even rule TaiwanBustySaintClaire
    • This is serious.
      Also read this: https://www.theatlan…
      grafician
    • it is VERY serious, indeedKrassy
    • yup, they've been playing the long gamemoldero
    • This is worth paying attention to, but the fear is somewhat overblown considering the USA already does the same thing x 100.yuekit
    • Are we saying no one can be imperialists but us? The reality is that of course China, India and others will be more powerful in the future, given the size ofyuekit
    • their populations and economy. But I don't think anyone is going to accept China "ruling" them.yuekit
    • this is just the result of another strategy. it started around 2000 with BRICS. Alliance of the biggest nations by population.uan
    • they felt underrepresented in international institutions and started creating banks, rating agencies, monetary funds to push development in those regions.uan
    • Not sure who came up with the name. “Belt" refers to the overland routes for road and rail transportat; whereas "road" refers to sea transport.”Chimp
    • It's all geopolitics. But whoever gets into Africa and builds the most, they get the upper hand in decades to follow. Africa is the key of the future...grafician
    • they promoted the idea with the ancient silk road as model for a peacefull coexistence of cultures. they proposed a china-alaska-america route in early days.uan
    • China ruling over India? LOLzarkonite
    • ideologically they base that idea in confusianism (not sure about spelling) and not any more on maoism.uan
    • China can’t peacefully coexist with their own population without, quite literally, exterminating the non-homogenousGnash
    • ‘A model of peaceful....’ lol. It was about the gold - like it was for everyone else.Gnash
    • yep that‘s what chinese / hongkong / taiwan friends tell also, they don‘t mess with the party, they don‘t need to because life is good and free.uan
    • but it‘s clear they fear the corruption and sheer power they have due to the indoctrination in china.uan
    • @yuekit, no one will have to accept, it will just happend. One step at a time, by buying and owning everything, they'll get to the higher step or the same as USBennn
    • Bennn take a look here:
      https://i.imgur.com/…
      yuekit
    • Military spending comparison
      https://www.pgpf.org…
      yuekit
    • Now imagine those graphics referred to China rather than the US, you guys would really be freaking out right? :)yuekit
    • you don't understand, China doesn't to make war to the USA, they want economical power. Chinese love money more than you can imagine. And Money = Power.Bennn
    • *doesn't wantBennn
    • OK but at some point you have to ask, why wouldn't a country with 4 times the population of USA have the same or more economic power?yuekit
    • But but USA. Isn’t an argumentGnash
    • Of course ,China has the right to do whatever the fuck they want. That doesn’t mean one can’t have legitimate reason to criticize.Gnash
    • I’d rather Canada take over the world - because it’s my country and I trust it more than China. I’m sure they feel the same wayGnash
    • I don’t like the idea of a genocidal and autocratic welding that sort of power. And as fucked as the USA is, I’d rather it be them, than ChinaGnash
    • I'm just trying to put things in perspective. In a global free market, why wouldn't you expect the regions with the most people, whether it's China, India,yuekit
    • Africa, to have a lot of power? The USA has 4% of the world's population and we take for granted that it should be the world leader. Putting aside the negativeyuekit
    • aspects of China's system, I do think this is going to change within our lifetimes.yuekit
    • you can put aside the negative aspects, if you like, I won't. concentration camps aren't just 'negative,'Gnash
    • I don't see a regime change happening anytime soon, and until they do I think it's perfectly reasonable to question their motives as a world powerGnash
    • and like I said, of course they have a right to participate in a the world's free market. I'm not questioning that right.Gnash
    • Just as the rest of the world has the right to limit their trade with china until they get their most basic of human rights issues fixedGnash
    • and that's not in anyway endorsing the way the USA manages their own shit. But to reiterate, i'd much rather the US be 'the' world power, than china.Gnash
    • Maybe we don't want a single world power running things?yuekit
    • Nope. I mean, aside from the rothchilds, of courseGnash
    • Yes bring back the reptilians, haven't we done enough damage by now?yuekit

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