I'm a muslim, ask me
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- mekk0
http://www.qbn.com/topics/698548…
Aren't you fucking pissed what these dicks do with your belief?
- Nothing to do with belief, but everything to do with political grievances. Nothing in Islam to justify murder or killing of innocent for ANY reason.MakeBelieve
- Very very pissed though yeah, but I never think they represent me or my belief.MakeBelieve
- To me it's sadly all I hear from Islam. Only this terror shit and violence. I know the loudest voices aren't the brightest ones but it feels like Islam is themekk
- new enemy of this era, like Russia was in the cold war era.mekk
- Have you every seen a positive news report on Islam/Muslims? Rare isn't it? Media has no interest in positive or real Islam, only this fringe stuff.MakeBelieve
- If sensible, intelligent people do not go out of their way to learn about what Islam is or Muslims, then we'll never progress. Mosques regularl open their doorsMakeBelieve
- I know a lot muslims from school and most of them have anti Israel propaganda on their FB profile and some of them even blame the west on the Paris attacks.mekk
- (even if this is partly true, I am aware of that)mekk
- Not denying that that exists. Anti-Israel isn't anti-Jewish. Israel is an illegaly occupying state and a murderous one. Nothing to do with Judaism.MakeBelieve
- Conspiracy nuts exist everywhere, quite a lot amongst Muslims too. But the same lot would be against terrorism as its unislamic.MakeBelieve
- Most Muslims I know, know the difference between Israel as a state and Jews/judaism. I don't believe Israel/Pal is religious conflict, but geopolitical.MakeBelieve
- yeah, "most". I see the remaining ones as highly dangerousmekk
- I say most, as I cannot put a figure on it, also there are those who wrongly equate Jews to Israeli issues. There will always be. Issue is Zionism, not Jews.MakeBelieve
- I'am really pissed with them. Maybe they have nothing to do with my religion but they still use it.Beeswax
- detritus7
"Have you every seen a positive news report on Islam/Muslims? Rare isn't it? Media has no interest in positive or real Islam, only this fringe stuff."—MakeBelieve
tbf, I rarely see much positive news about xtians or hindus or ...actually, the last three stories I remember about Sikhs have all been quite positive... etc either.
Frankly, I'm bored by religion - yours, theirs, everyone's.
I don't want to learn more about your religion*, I don't want to learn any more about 'my own' religion - I'm done with it all, and want the world of my youth back, the one where religion was a mere anachronistic crutch for older generations, surpassed by base humanism or Belief-Lite™, like the old toothless but jovial Church of England, before it started going all American Pentecostal and whacky.
There's no need for people to have an all-seeing, all-judging Sky Daddy dictating their mores - especially when there are multiple Sky Daddies and each of the juvenile wits is antagonising the other juveniles wits with promises that "my Dad could beat up your Dad". No, fuck off, all of you.
Enough now, let's be done with this idiocy.
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* then you could quite rightfully ask "then why are you here, then?" fair point.
- Positive stories about Sikhs revolved around their breaking religious rights and removing their turbans to save or comfort people, so... more like humanism.detritus
- Almost heard about the Sikh Canadian guy who was photoshopped to look like a Paris shooter. Another Sikh guy was attacked, somebody thought he was Muslim.MakeBelieve
- Also*MakeBelieve
- You can use any ideology to kill or go to war. WWI and WWII were secular wars, most wars in history have not been religious at all.MakeBelieve
- Religion is a pawn, opium used to lure the masses by small groups of dictators. In Islam we don't have a Pope or overarching leadership. Pros/Cons to that.MakeBelieve
- actually, most wars were fought about fucking religion. It's time to ditch it from public and let people do their praying in private.mekk
- Factually not true: https://carm.org/rel… - facts say otherwise.MakeBelieve
- ^ says a christian "research" institutemekk
- Facts are correct though, you can look them up at a non-religious site.MakeBelieve
- Wars are always fought for money and power, 'leaders' use whatever to justify it, religion, wmds, etc.formed
- ^MakeBelieve
- Agree with formed and make believe. I like what detritus said. Just give it a few more centuries...sarahfailin
- Amen. I know far too much about this toxic culture already.Cactus
- ^ Enough to stay uninformed and intolerant?MakeBelieve
- Reeno0
Are you still answering questions Beeswax?
- I would just like to know what the punishment is for apostasy if you are a muslim?Reeno
- deathhotroddy
- Is this still up-to-date? DAMN. https://en.wikipedia…nb
- I wasn't going to since MakeBelieve is doing a great job answering but for this specific question I can say : NOBeeswax
- "There's NO compulsion in Islam" is a well known and well understood Quranic verse.Beeswax
- docpoz0
Do you eat pork?
- no i eat ham.pango
- It's forbidden in Islam, along with alcohol. I don't consume either, some Muslims might.MakeBelieve
- georgesIII-4
@detritus,
I can at least answer a part of your question about positive slants in media,- sorry man, just realized that some asshole just re-uploaded this doc with some embedded advertising, it wasn't like this in the original version,georgesIII
- nb-1
In a related story, I heard a great film critic on the radio talking about how Americans are always criticizing North Korea for their propaganda and for misleading it's citizens. Then she explained how in North Korean propaganda films, they never outright say "Let's kill The US President" or use a President's real name. At the same time, Hollywood Film and TV is quick to name either of the Kim Jongs as an evil force, and often incompetent. There are many films that directly show the NK leader being killed. There are mainstream Hollywood films that are centred around the premise of killing certain foreign leaders, specifically. The same was done for Bin Laden, Saddam, etc.
Her point was that Hollywood creates more propaganda than any nation does, under the guise of "free speech". And the US Dept of Defence is helping to fund many of these films.
- i like to see the evidence of this "fund"pango
- sounds like you are defending North korea.. which is nonsense.hotroddy
- I'm not defending North Korea's actions. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of some Americans who criticize other countries for making propaganda.nb
- Kinda true that American culture is one big propaganda machine since decades. Maybe even unconsciously.Ben99
- Here's an advert the Air Force put out to encourage producers to work with them. They offer access (often free) to equipment and information in exchange for...nb
- ...being allowed to approve or even edit the script. https://www.youtube.…nb
- http://www.theguardi…nb
- https://en.wikipedia…)nb
- Shit, bad link. Look up Animal Farm, 1954 on Wikipedia. It explains how the CIA bought the rights and produced it.nb
- Here's a good summary of this: http://www.salon.com…nb
- I am with you on this one... but lets face it we all know the US 'free' market is responsible for a huge amount of bullshit on this planet, spreads like a virusfadein11
- Sympathiser, evil you! That's what Muslims get when they say ISIS came out of illegal Iraq war. But nooo, it must be just their evil religion. No,its political.MakeBelieve
- lowimpakt0
Will you be flying with Southwest?
- Beeswax0
1988 - The original end credits of Rambo 3.
Why would a hollywood movie thank Afghan mujahideen?- Because that jihad was against the Soviet Union. So the west was fine with that... cold war and all.ETM
- humans: making it up as we go alonglowimpakt
- no right or wrong. only interest.pango
- The west funded these guys back then... until 'we' left them on their ass once they wore the soviets outPonyBoy
- Watch Charlie Wilson's War. It's very entertaining, and a nice explanation of how all this went down.nb
- CIA and SAS trained soldiers against the Soviet Union, later to become Al Qaeda and the Taliban... good/bad/good/bad/go... bit like ISIS really.fadein11
- +1 for Charlie Wilson's Warsarahfailin
- Al-CIA-da. And Charli Wilson's War is just a psy op cover story.qoob
- Shhh, they want you to forget about that bit of history.MakeBelieve
- Brought to Light, a graphic novel by Alan Moore & Bill Sienkiewicz (pub 1989)
https://archive.org/…Bluejam - ^
"the victims of CIA activities (directly or indirectly) are quantified in swimming pools filled with blood, each pool representing 20,000 dead"Bluejam
- Cactus-3
Why do you want to destroy Europe?
- LOL, Muslims don't want to destroy Europe. Most actually admire Europe and its values. Europe's values are closer to Islam than that of Saudi for exampleMakeBelieve
- Don't believe the stupid news stories and scaremongering. Millions of Muslims live in Europe, 6m in France, 2m in UK etc, peacefully.MakeBelieve
- Guess you haven't been reading the newspapers lately.Cactus
- But just why are the 8+ million Muslims sooooo damn quiet after the attacks???robotron3k
- Europe's capital under martial law perhaps might have something to do with it.Cactus
- 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide
And only 15 to 25% of them want to destroy the rest of the world.
Do the math!utopian - Your pseudonym was well chosen.Cactus
- Stupiest question every asked.pango
- Sometimes the stupidest question is the most profound one grasshopper.Cactus
- Stupid because you are addressing muslims, and muslims don't want to destroy Europe.uan
- "Guess you haven't been reading the newspapers lately."
LOL
Cunt detected.set - That's just your Mum.Cactus
- uan0
what's this song about?
- ETM0
Can you properly define "caliphate" and/or "khalīfah"? It was mentioned earlier there is no central governing body or pope-like equivalent in Islam... yet is that not what this is/would be?
- Cactus0
- you can legally buy shotguns in belgium?uan
- Are these the peace loving Muslims that everyone in Europe is talking about?utopian
- forever alonePonyBoy
- I don't understandhotroddy
- what is this? the muslim-european version of thug-life lol_niko
- are they talking religion or just they thugs n shit.hotroddy
- I think these are just examples of the 72 virgins jihadist martyrs look forward toPonyBoy
- assfuckerssureshot
- lol, people will get scared of anything, blatant racism from people that don't a lick of french, those cailra, are just a bunch of wannabe thugsgeorgesIII
- if these are the people who scare you, you better never go outgeorgesIII
- Hood rats, lost kids, Parenting.ApeRobot
- this is a bunch of teenagers acting tough for a camera. i guarantee they are not that toughlowimpakt
- Remind me of the KKK but with black mask.DerIllustrat
- Guns, mask, religion & disenfranchised.DerIllustrat
- "if these are the people who scare you, you better never go out" Georges r u kidding? these kids carry guns and shit.
I would wet my pants. yes.sureshot - Sureshot, Most of them are show off. Just talking alot.ApeRobot
- georgesIII2
can we just stop posting videos from people of middle easter descent and saying all muslims are like this,
example. the video below,
those young people you see there we use to call them T.A.M (similar to chav, lad, bogans, fobs, etc)
which basically means
Training(pants)
Airmax (shoes)
Mustache), they are disillusioned youth and we can find their kind in any countries, culture and religions,why does beeswax have to justify himself for their stupidity, why do you feel the need to post the video of young men of muslim descent doing jackasses and pretend they are the next terrorist,
honestly, if we have to go down that road, then every soldier is a baby killer, every priest is a child rapist, every hunter is a sociopathic animal remover, every politician is a pig head fucker,
it is insane to believe that muslim are here to kill us all while denying the same to muslims when they say the west is out to kill them,
I'm sick of you guys pretending it's ok to hate on muslims because of isis when it's not ok to hate on the US (army) for literally causing this mess we all find ourselves in today
so keep those stupid agenda driven videos out of this thread
for fucks sake, the description is basically lifted from storm front vocabulary,"This beautiful expression of diverse and vibrant culture is a perfect example of what colorful and enriching experiences the much-needed qualified workers from different ethnic backgrounds and nations are bringing to Europe."
- <<<< this.
+2pango - ok another one. +1pango
- no! I am sorry george. I have had it with these people. my city is being terrorized. Holland has had enough also.sureshot
- The media doesnt show the reality thats why these vids. Seriously I very angry. they are ruining my country.sureshot
- and I am no racist. i have a lot of black friends and even they stand behind me.sureshot
- they need to go.sureshot
- Just join me 1 afternoon in the Hague. Its worse then South Central in the mid 90's.sureshot
- Who are 'they'? the upwards of 2 billion people of a certain faith? You are making yourself sound very very stupid sureshot.fadein11
- And surely this site has policies on such racial encitement... tread carefully or you will soon be sureshot2 in green letters.fadein11
- Sureshot doesn't point out muslims as a whole, he points out those people that we see here in Europe.gonzalle
- Whatever the reason, but a lot of them are EXACTLY as this video shows it.gonzalle
- And it occurs that those people put forward their religion.gonzalle
- I live in one of the most racially diverse cities in Europe. I grew up in schools with people of all faiths. Many good friends are and were Muslim. My city hasfadein11
- a large Muslim population. I am not willing to accept your idiotic generalisations and prejudice. You are reacting exactly as the extremists desire. I am notfadein11
- getting into any further on this 'design' website. Please choose a different platform to share your idiotic views.fadein11
- fadein, these people dont' realize that generalising behaviours based on ethnicity and religion cuts both way, and this is exactly what the social engineer wantgeorgesIII
- sadly it's hard for some people to understand this simple concept that it's exactly what isis/us/uk want, after 14 years of war on terror, I'm amazed theregeorgesIII
- Again i have muslim friends. I love them. Its the assholes muslims that are ruiing it for the good ones. We r adults fade. we dont have to see eye to eye.sureshot
- Georges - your original post was fine. American foreign policy (and British to a degree) has created this monster. As soon as more people accept that basicfadein11
- truth things will improve. It's going to be a long process. But these far right views spreading across Europe may lead to the ultimate disaster, exactly what ISfadein11
- wants to happen. This is all basic stuff that anyone can see. Just do not understand these people.fadein11
- wasn't more bloodshed in the west, think about it, if muslims really wanted a holly war, they could have made a lot more damage,georgesIII
- I may leave this site, it's going downhill. Get annoyed nearly everytime I visit these days.fadein11
- can you read Fade? I dont hate ALL muslims. I fucking teach muslims class.sureshot
- give me your email fade Ill show you me and my class.sureshot
- "I have had it with these people" - you may want to be more specific with your racial slurs mate - nope you are not having my email. Anyway - moving on. Laterz.fadein11
- You said you had 'black friends' so not a racist which was comical enough... no mention of muslim friends. backtracking much? See you later.fadein11
- I wasnt gonna send it anyway. These are good muslims and prob dont wanna be reconized anyway. later man.sureshot
- black people can be muslim too you know.sureshot
- I think all 3 religions are run by extremists. but over the ruling extremist in charge want a holy war. you can see different strategies unfold because even ifyurimon
- Really? Thanks for enlightening me. I am learning lots of new stuff today - The Hague is a no go zone due to Muslims and may or may not also be black :)fadein11
- there is no extremist by the majority its still kinda falls into a plan. society is like a Petri dish, someone with resources changes the chemistry a bit n youyurimon
- this is correct fade. And I still love you. If you want it or not.sureshot
- get a reaction. people march along their programmed dynamics, you get tension n action by opposing sides moving into a desired political direction.yurimon
- ps and not only the haguesureshot
- these are just kids failed by statism with no follow through.IRNlun6
- but sharia law is supposed make people good n kind, increased gangs, crime, rape. why should sureshot worry.yurimon
- sharia law just means god's law. So in one thread you attacking atheism, in this thread you against god. Make up yr mindreanimate
- Oh god what have I started.fadein11
- i'm responding to Islamic concept of utopianism in shria law but ironically crime is up in europe, including rape. i wonder why?yurimon
- I don't really understand your point because Europe in general obviously doesn't practice sharia law.reanimate
- read into the sarcasm if possible.yurimon
- ^ exactly - really couldn't be bothered to say it.fadein11
- <<<< this.
- Beeswax1
Wow, I thought this thread was dead already! Allahu Akbar!
Anyways I just came here to post something fun to read.
- Ben990
'Muslim Detained on a Flight: I’m Your Biggest Ally'
http://time.com/4135397/muslim-f…- "reports of a suspicious passenger onboard a Southwest Airlines flight inbound to Houston on November 15, 2016."ETM
- Whoa... it's from the future.ETM
- It's obviously not THAT humiliating or he would assimilate into western garb.hotroddy
- ^ when flying. Why call out attention?hotroddy
- "or he assimilate into western garb"
Are you kidding?wordssssss - when in rome. its a very basic principal.hotroddy
- sureshot3
Made by the people in my city. This neighborhood is the getto of the hague. But a postive vibe I guess. Dont wont it to be all negative.
- Holland? Where're the blondes?detritus
- my point hahahasureshot
- we still have them dont worry :)sureshot
- WouldArmandoEstrada
- IRNlun61
This short article talks of the failure of both left and right in the US to articulate the problem with extremism in Islam, but seems to ring true for Europe as well.
- actually I take back the US part... this seems to be about liberal vs conservative in Europe... but still seems comparable.IRNlun6
