Paris terrorist attack Nov13th 2015
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- Beeswax1
All those 'prayforyou' hashtags, painting your profile photo with French flag colors etc, means nothing IF YOU DON'T PROTEST YOUR GOVERNMENTS that is actively supporting terrorism with money, arms and politics.
Who knows, maybe those people who got killed in this incident were people like you, who haven't said anything when France purposely divided countries and people for power!
So it's not religion or crazy terrorists or arms to blame.
It is us as individuals, who stay silent while our governments ignite fire somewhere away from our safe homes.
- oey0
Waiting for Yurimon...
- Today he is logged in as georges.utopian
- hey someone doesn't agree with my simplistic view of the world, let's slander him, you're better than this topiangeorgesIII
- It's "utopian" don't slander me!utopian
- simplistic view?inteliboy
- set5
- or it is just gladio b in action, be this or that the ultimate goal of raising islamophobia is working pretty wellgeorgesIII
- God Bless ISIS and their freedom fighters bringing their message of love, tolerance, and freedom to every country around the world!utopian
- Saudi Wahabbis are so peaceful in spreading their beliefs. Don't worry, because they openly push to build Mosques to spread their fundamentalist peace.IRNlun6
- But let's not blame those that counter ideological criticism with terror.IRNlun6
- ISIS says it was because France was bombing Syria. Will be interesting to see if this affect the UK's plans to move forward with their own air strike in Syria.yuekit
- If ISIS could find a way to attack and blame Iceland and or Haiti it would.utopian
- This religious denial is basically saying don't criticize Islam because Muslims are ticking time bombs who terrorize because hurt feelings.IRNlun6
- what religious denial? I'm finding it hard to follow your point, IRNlun6monospaced
- There are terrorist who vehemently believe in Islam and to say it has nothing to do with religion before people have even been buried is fucking insulting.IRNlun6
- I'm really fucking pissed about this mono, not directed at youIRNlun6
- I know. I don't think there is flat-out denial here, actually. Just to a call to recognize it's not Islam in general dictating this, it's an extremist group.monospaced
- These terrorists might "vehemently believe in Islam," but they are also clearly distorting it.monospaced
- I've seen flat out denial, with a "it's not our responsibility to weed out the extremists from our midst"formed
- There are 1.6 billion Muslim in the world. Wouldnt you think it's logical to narrow down de profiling 2 the small group of people(extremis) who's responsible?pango
- The problem is there aren't any moderate muslims. A secular muslim is an oxy moron. 99.9% of arabs identify themselves as muslimhotroddy
- muslim won't call them out on their shit because they believe 85% the same shit. They maybe disagree on how to wage jihadhotroddy
- Go search Twitter #notinmyname.pango
- Exactly. Jihad doesn't mean to kill other. It mean religious duty. The difference is "how" they spread their religion"pango
- the fact is there should be arabs not identifying with the name. Secularist society wouldn't give a fuck about the name.hotroddy
- missionaries are fucking annoying as well. exploiting the poor and starving ones to spread their religion. But they haven't killed yet.pango
- So you are saying they are guilty because they don't want to give up the name of their religion?pango
- yes. they are accomplices. the society to change from within and be more critical about religionhotroddy
- That I can agree. Change needs to come from with in. But still not enough for me to do or say anything that might cause harm or suffering to those who haspango
- Nothing to do with the attack.pango
- Ben990
Violence leading to violence. We're stuck in a spiral.
The more they attack us, the more we hate them. The more we hate them, the more they attack us.
Humanz are evolving veeeeery slowly on certain things.
- IRNlun60
I didn't get much sleep so I'll stop harping on this. To be clear, I am not trying to convince anyone of my opinion and do not in any way advocate hatred towards the entire muslim community. They are overwhelmingly the majority of people being victimized by these Islamic Extremists. Denying that Islamic fundamentalism is unrelated to the muslim community is simply ignoring the scale of this problem and continues to put every one of us in danger.
I reject the idea that an ideology should be free from criticism and that I should accept the narrative that only those who are peaceful are representative of their religions.
We will never successfully prosecute this war while islamic monarchies and theocratic regimes are allowed to openly proselytize their radical ideology around the world. Unacknowledged and undeterred. Especially since our leaders are beholden to corporate interests who openly support if not magnify the global reach of these regimes. The fact that this is only focused on ISIS and not the nation states responsible for them is terrifying.
Stay safe all.
- this is dumb. read below.Beeswax
- who is supporting those islamic monarchies and why? who sells them weapons and why? who created saddam, mubarak and gaddafi and why? learn these firstBeeswax
- +1 BeeswaxiCanHazQBN
- I know the history. The petrodollar and military contracts contribute to the spread of this ideology, which was entirely my point.IRNlun6
- They have more wealth and power than any number of moderates could hope for.IRNlun6
- If you say there is a problem in the Muslim teaching. Please quote one of their book that seem problematic. Cuz I really don't know anything about it.pango
- And who is "they" you are talking about? Can't be 1.6 billion people right?pango
- I would say the problem with religion in general is blind faith and by they for one example, the Saudi monarchy.IRNlun6
- No I don't mean 1.6 billion people. Christians who blow up abortion clinics are still Christians.IRNlun6
- 15-25% of the world's Muslims are extremists. That's only 2-5 million radicalized Islamic extremists, I feel safer now.utopian
- My math is off..you get the point.utopian
- So the rest 75% are guilty as well?pango
- Complicitutopian
- In what way?pango
- georgesIII0
oooh cnn..
- Attention whore as usual.
Did they put Paris in spain again?D4W33D - They had a body cover by a white body bag earlier today.utopian
- This was blown-up fullscreen on CNN today: http://cdn.idigitalt…utopian
- http://i.imgur.com/M…utopian
- Attention whore as usual.
- georgesIII3
guys before this thread become a hatefest, I invite everyone to take a step back and look at this event with clear eyes,
stop trying to find a culprit already, because if it goes like the previous time, this is only the beginning,
I pray for the families and france,
but untill everything is settled can we put the pitchforks down ----E- feel the same here. we don't even know much about the detail yet.pango
- The Radical Islamic Terrorist Muslims have claimed responsibility...the... name is ISIS.utopian
- ^
you do know who is isis don't you?georgesIII - ^
No I don't, please enlighten me.utopian - I hate whomever did this. Chances are it was Islamic extremists or related to ISIS. Is it wrong to think these things?monospaced
- No. Speculations are natural at this kind of situation. As long as it's not being stated as an fact when nobody had the evidence to support it.pango
- These kind of accusation has to be absolutely accurate when being stated as fact.pango
- georgesIII-3
like clockwork
- Yup! We all know that they were really white and devout God fearing Muricans.utopian
- conspiracy, false flag, lizard people, cu cu cachoo.shoes
- As usual GeorgesD4W33D
- ok, because it makes total sense for a well trained terrorist group to take their passport with them, it is totally logical, exactly like the last time,georgesIII
- So because they found a passport, that means France butchered their own people?yuekit
- Why don't you come out and say what you think happened instead of dropping these hints all the time, then we can at least consider it.yuekit
- I agree with Georges on the similarity with Charlie Hebdo, again he finds a passport next to a body. But can we say a conspiracy ?D4W33D
- It is strange to release this information to the press while there is still an active investigation.IRNlun6
- Question everything.iCanHazQBN
- autoflavour0
i wonder if they were be a massive public march again like the one they had for Charlie Hebdo.. its just if ISIS really wanted to strike terror, they would hit again during that..
- No massive public march for the momentD4W33D
- it would be an obvious target.. and would be devastating to the public psycheautoflavour
- yep,
Public march and all the event are prohibited for nowD4W33D - They shouldn't have a gathering. Something like an additional attack would really put fear into people. Nobody would feel safe anywhere.iCanHazQBN
- And I'm actually surprised terrorists haven't done this sort of thing. These huge gatherings are easy targets.iCanHazQBN
- Gardener5
- well.. that was unexpectedautoflavour
- The Hoffsea_sea
- Did they hoff to do that??iCanHazQBN
- autoflavour0
probably unrelated, but there was a french hispeed train derailment also today..
- sureshot0
shit is getting scary as fuck. Paris is only a 4 hour drive for me. besides we got a lot of extremists here too. Its creeping me out.
- Netherlands right? As you probably remember i used to live in A'dam and wondered all the time how it was actually so quiet somehow.oey
- Not near where I live (The Hague) its slowly becoming a getto. Like more big cities here. A'dam is super strict cause of the tourists visiting dailysureshot
- And Rotterdam?oey
- even worse. I work downtown.sureshot
- Get used to it there will be more and posting tricolors on facebook wont make any difference. Dystopia coming ? 2000AD magazine lolDillinger
- Continuity0
A lot of Berlin friends are beginning to wonder if all of this shit is going to be exported here.
Frankly, so do I. Makes me slightly less comfortable travelling the U-Bahn, or working/living in the centre of town.
- Fuck! You live in Berlin and I totally forgot! My girlfriend was there from Thursday till today and I was thinking sort of the same. I was supposed to go...oey
- ...to this party today but had to work till now and I'm totally tired. In case you're interested in some good music and techtools live drawing.oey
- I also would love to visit Georges!oey
- And to be honest I didn't went to Berlin for many reasons and one is that I actually feel uncomfortable to visit big cities and after yesterday...hm..oey
- yo, if you ever come to duss, let's totally meet upgeorgesIII
- I wonder this also.. but i think honestly France has a pretty loaded history when it comes to colonial past in the middle east aswell as its current militaryautoflavour
- involvement in Syria etc.. Berlin, while an obvious target I think has less appeal.. if only slightly. Germany isnt bombing Syria, its accepting refugees..autoflavour
- but yep, living in one of the largest european metropolises and also living pretty close to Mitte, it does freak me outautoflavour
- utopian2
How many ISIS sympathizers are here?
- what a dumb question, but that was the point right?georgesIII
- jmckinno0
Paris terrorist shooting: Man arrested in Bavaria by German police 'linked to French capital attacks'
- Miesfan0
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- The guy who took this video was, himself, shot in the arm, trying to help victims, I think. He's sais to be recovering in hopsital.Continuity
- said*Continuity
- Well, he keeps saying 'Qu'est-ce qui se passe?', which means 'what's happening?' I think I heard him on the BBC after the police left his apartmentBuddhaHat
- They temporarily used it as a sniper positionBuddhaHat
- That is a shocking and horrific video. It literally makes me want to take action.HijoDMaite
- yeah hijo, why don't you enlistgeorgesIII
- I did my time, 6 years thank you. I have another role as a husband and father now. If i was single maybe it would be a different story.HijoDMaite
- utopian0
Islamic State says France remains top target
"To teach France, and all nations following its path, that they will remain at the top of Islamic State’s list of targets, and that the smell of death won’t leave their noses as long as they partake in their crusader campaign," said the group.
- it's convenient how these isis fools, conveniently ignore the country that are arming themgeorgesIII
- it's not that simplemonospaced
- utopian0
ISIS Claims Responsibility, Calling Attacks ‘First of the Storm’
The Islamic State claimed responsibility on Saturday for the catastrophic attacks in the French capital, calling them “the first of the storm” and mocking France as a “capital of prostitution and obscenity,” according to statements released in multiple languages on one of the terror group’s encrypted messaging accounts.
- Screw them and this helpless feeling, I refuse to live in fear. :(sea_sea
- Exactly sea. And yet here I am, scared.monospaced
- _niko0
Why is France such a target for this shit?
- keep enlightening this thread with your wisdomernexbcn
- has had quite a controversial stance on islamic dresscodes etc., VCharlie Hebdo made a business out of Islam bashing, NATO... but I would say this is a responsefadein11
- to Jihadi John killing today (he was British but perhaps ISIS had cell ready to go in France). But who knows?fadein11
- honest question, don't be a dick, They seem to me like they keep their nose out of other countries for the most part, unlike the US and Russia. Just because of_niko
- NATO? not in europe so please enlighten us._niko
- lol - read a bookfadein11
- thanks fade was thinking along the same lines, but seems like a harsh response if that's the case._niko
- and misguided considering what Russia and the US are currently doing in Syria._niko
- okay - sorry your response in other thread pissed me off - but no worries. no time for bickering really is it.fadein11
- assuming of course that this is isis related_niko
- no worries, bickering is the"B" in QBN lol, I try not to take things or be taken too seriously, trying to keep things light, not trying to offend_niko
- yep fair enough - apologies again.fadein11
- ^ thats the way!numero1
- France has a long and nasty history of fucking around with other countries - N. Africa being the prime example.face_melter
- French airliners and citizens were a regular target for terrorist attacks during the late 70's and early 80's in response to their meddling in Africa and M.Eastface_melter
- And the French secret service sank the Rainbow Warrior when it was docked in New Zealand, if I recall correctly.face_melter
- Yeah I know they've had a fucked up history, but was thinking of the recent (almost) train attack and now this_niko
- France just started bombing IS recently....yuekit
- mg33-1
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