beats by dre
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- autoflavour0
honestly Sem, you are the only person arguing.
The rest of us just agree they are shit.- LOLZautoflavour
- this is weird, I mean c'mon Nike sells pricey shoes, all kinds of examples like this, I'm used to it. auto = winningZOOP
- Was never arguing, I don't argue online.sem
- You LOLZ your own comment? thats so 2014.sem
- albums0
Sem is only showing that consumers will ignore the ills of brands that have successfully lifestyle adopted them. I mean who wouldn't defend a brand that makes them feel accepted and part of something? Putting him down and attacking his opinions is a flailing attempt to protect your own opinions, opinions that don't need to be believed and adopted by all, but are reinforced inside yourself by advertising.
Re: ZOOP's example of Nike, the sweatshop culture behind them is a very deciding factor in myself never purchasing any of their products, but nothing floors me more than watching shoppers (read mainlanders) coming into Hong Kong from China to buy stacks of that shit when the factory conditions are literally so close to home. I'm like seriously? Are you that much of a fucking consumer?
I also find apple's fanboys to be a huge incentive, if not the main reason, to avoid the brand. Loudmouths have a billion things to say positively about them, but rarely recognize the thing has been consistently filled with more and more parts manufactured by other PC manufacturers, some of whom apple has the audacity to sue after stealing so many of other's ideas themselves.
If you have the effort to hate on Dells, HPs, Lenovos etc, but you've used a Mac for the last X amount of time, where are you drawing your hate from? It can't be experience. Oh the BSOD? apple has that problem too. It's not hard to fuck up an apple, actually just as easy to use it incorrectly. They are after all essentially the same product on the inside.
The main contributing factor to the rise in mac sales is marketing, not usefulness. they have simply become the lifestyle possession they have continually advertised for the last 30 years.
It is only recently in the overall timeline that apple has adopted the intel processor, therefore opening it up to run software which has been almost exclusively PC based for decades.
Only by adopting PC technology have they been able to remain relevant as their hardware was the main reason that software was not not being ported to it. Not to mention manufacturing their own hardware was cutting too deep into their profits.
This is most easily exemplified by when they began producing iPods and gave up manufacturing their server options. Why invest in reliable hardware anymore when they can just glue their new cheaply manufactured, overpriced toy shut and advertise you into believing you need to buy the same product next quarter because of minor minor changes?
- so, what your saying you like Beats by Dre then? especially when listening on your iphone?autoflavour
- < case in point. hate for the sake of self serving satisfaction, not conversation or understandingalbums
- benfal990
there's thousands of other exemples... welcome to the capitalist World.
- ZOOP0
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- inteliboy0
what is happenign to this fucking place? non stop bieber and cyrus posts, and now a thread about beats headphones. It's like being in high school.
- wagshaft0
I received as a gift from a client a pair of the of the beats studio headphone (in super awesome white). I certainly enjoy them and the fidelity is great. With that said, I haven't used any other $300+ headphones for an extended amount of time so there is nothing to compare the set to. Price tag certainly seems steep.
- albums0
Sem, can I offer you a beer or amazon gift card or something?
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Dre makes money from cheap labour = Everyone hates
Apple does same and has staff commit suicide = Everyone buys moreDre makes money from cheap labour = Everyone hates
Apple does same and has staff commit suicide = Everyone buys moreDre makes money from cheap labour = Everyone hates
Apple does same and has staff commit suicide = Everyone buys moreDre makes money from cheap labour = Everyone hates
Apple does same and has staff commit suicide = Everyone buys moreDre makes money from cheap labour = Everyone hates
Apple does same and has staff commit suicide = Everyone buys moreDre makes money from cheap labour = Everyone hates
Apple does same and has staff commit suicide = Everyone buys moreDre makes money from cheap labour = Everyone hates
Apple does same and has staff commit suicide = Everyone buys moreDre makes money from cheap labour = Everyone hates
Apple does same and has staff commit suicide = Everyone buys moreDre makes money from cheap labour = Everyone hates
Apple does same and has staff commit suicide = Everyone buys moreDre makes money from cheap labour = Everyone hates
Apple does same and has staff commit suicide = Everyone buys moreDre makes money from cheap labour = Everyone hates
Apple does same and has staff commit suicide = Everyone buys more- you're making me over-think this and now I can't stop the funny
damewZOOP - damewZOOP
- it's not meant to be funny. I whole-heartedly agree with this statementalbums
- what the fuck are you on about? The internet hates on Apple nonstop.inteliboy
- i'm on about agreeing with sem, your hate is misguided but expectedalbums
- while you were reading this, Dre turned it into an album so you can hear it on his latest headphonesZOOP
- People don't hate dre. And certainly not for cheap labor. It's because the sound is shit. At least apple makes a good compjtermonospaced
- Good product.monospaced
- Mono, I'm not getting into a debate again, but Apple live by the light bulb conspiracy bro.sem
- you're making me over-think this and now I can't stop the funny
- Miguex0
- Mixing an album with Beats would result in shit sound for everyonemonospaced
- yup w/ like zero bassprophetone
- would sound like a whiney eminem track bein sick on his grandma or summatfadein11
- lolmoldero
- oey0
headphones are so 80's...
- fadein110
Don't blame the companies who outsource to China - blame capitalism and its last death cry (where we gonna outsource to next when the whole world demands a decent life? Mars? Nope - ET don't exist according to the guys who run above).
Look, I know what I mean...- capitalism is not to blame for outsourcing to china.doesnotexist
- Uh, yes it is? Cheaper labour, higher profits?jagara
- autoflavour0
jeez.. this thread seems to have hit a nerve.. i was just posting an article about the disparity between the retail value and the actual production value of these headphones.
- i know. there are gents on here that luv to flip their soapbox'n wigs no doubt. it's kinda boring.prophetone
- i find the facts, if indeed those are facts, sort of amazing. like the fact a mc d's cheeseburger is like 20 centsprophetone
- jfletcher0
I don't get it.... don't like it? Don't buy them. Why set up a thread to rag on them?
I mean really is everyone here that amazing audio production folks that they know all the ins and outs of the best headphones? If everyone does, man you missed a market by not making them... clearly they'd be better than Beats... meaning they'd make millions. Stop sitting on your millions people!! Go out and pave the future of music headphones! LIVE!
- fadein110
my nephew loves his. its a brand thing - the kids aint interested in sound and globalisation
- sem0
^^^ preach.
Hating on them is the new "cool" thing to do because they have become what "cool" people call mass marketed crap. Personally though I have been guilty in the past of other things, being superficial over headphones has not been on my list of bad judgements made.
People can argue all day over quality, but its a personal preference. Its like arguing about EQ and Compressor settings on audio, there is no set standard that everyone likes. And at the end of the day the average person listening to music likes the boost in the bass area, rather than the full freq spectrum so they can perfect a mix etc.
I can understand why people wouldn't like them, because some people who have them make out they are the best headphones out, which they are not. But not everyone knows or cares to know different, much like most won't know the difference between 16 and 24bit audio.
- autoflavour0
i didnt set up a thread to rag on them. i just set up a thread to post a story about the price difference between cost and price of these headphones.
you all need to relax.
- a good comparison would be the iPhone production cost versus retail price, it's similarZOOP
- One thing I noticed about iPhone production cost info is they don't mention wholesale parts prices. Just individual.sem
- Though with that in mind, wholesale on the parts would probably be like Zoop said, same thing as this.sem