Web design is lame
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- antagonista0
idiotic thread. there are good and awful ports in all mediums.
- Who said anything about quality? You can be the best web designer out there, and it's still just fecking websites!fate
- fredddddd0
Or any "interactive agency". Every company has apps.
- inteliboy0
I'm so happy Flash is dead. A plugin to view websites. What the fuck was that shit.
- pauli0
Totally agree,
I thought Web design would change the frontier of the
way we approach information but there seems to be too
many standards.As I see it, Sheets of paper imposes innate limits -- Time
& Space. Thus, allowing the artist excite the audience by
the way he chooses to manipulate this time/space. But
with the web, there is no limit of space.It would be like asking a musician to create a song upon
which some listeners listened for 3 minutes, while others
preferred longer concertos -- it's maddening.
- fate0
"Those of you mad flash is gone, learn to code JS and start doing more interesting things. Expand your skill set."
Has nothing to do with Flash. It doesn't matter what you use, the output is still just a fucking website!
I believe in the Grandma test. If you show what you do to your Grandma and she doesn't "get it", the world probably doesn't really need you. You're not a doctor, a lawyer, an artist, a photographer, a software engineer...in other words, you're not someone who is contributing to the world in a meaningful way.
There are rare, very very rare exceptions to this in web, but for the most part it's all rubbish.
- Your Grandma would likely not 'get' many artists, photographers or the work of a software engineer.ETM
- Of course they would.fate
- She could also be killed by a negligent doctor or sued to poverty by a good lawyer.ETM
- If only she had a website that advised her of questionable doctors in the area or where to find a good defence lawyer. :DETM
- Your Gran digs Banksy?ETM
- Take artists off that list.fredddddd
- and software engineers, god knows what they doraf
- fate0
"If you're working on FB campaigns or on whatever M&M's or Home Depot online site, then you're wasting your life. Too many huge companies try too hard to get online campaigns that just dissapear in a month." -fredddddd
Fucking AGREED.
- ETM0
@fate
Please with the whining. Is it the world's fault or your own that you are unhappy? You control your destiny. Find more fulfilling projects (or employers), do some more creative ones on your own, or go back to school and change your stars. There are PLENTY of worse jobs than unfulfilled web designer.
Also, the majority of all professions the world can do without. The world turned when the only job for a caveman was hunter, with rare exception for medicine man and chief cave pictographer.
Most jobs simply contribute to society in terms of comfort, entertainment or luxury. Very few people change the world or get recognized for their work. If that is what you crave, I am sure you can achieve it, but only you know how. Other than that, you simply find your happiness and be happy with yourself.
- inteliboy0
I have a friend who is a web designer. Not a "creative" or a "designer" or whatever vague description every bloody design person has these days, but a 100% web designer. And it's damn refreshing to hear her proudly say "I'm a web designer", have a folio of great web design and be laser focussed to be kick ass in her field.
You know what's annoying and boring? Designers with folios of motion reels, videos, print work, branding work and photography all slapped together like they are some kind of multimedia prodigy. More a jack of all trades, master of none.
- lvl_130
blanket statement of the year (thus far. we are only 6 days in mind you) goes to........fate!
it's only as lame as you make it. like many others have pointed out already, it all depends on what do with it. i, for one, do both interactive and print design that is primarily in the vein of selling shit. have been for a while. i'm not saving lives or helping anyone in the least bit...and i accept that. of course there are days that i vent at our industry like you have...but that is what we do.concept/create/forget/delete
with that said, there are plenty of very smart people out there creating and designing sites (and furthermore creating apps/programs) that actually help the greater good of humanity. there is no need to list them as there are far too many. the point is you need to make web design not lame.
- qoob0
"I believe in the Grandma test. If you show what you do to your Grandma and she doesn't "get it", the world probably doesn't really need you. "
Well that's pretty dumb isn't it? Technology is always going to change and evolve, just because someone born 90 years ago doesn't "get it", you consider it worthless? Strange line of thinking there..
- fredddddd0
Get better clients or get paid well for stupid work that doesn't matter.
If you get paid well you can take nice vacations and buy nice food for your kids.
- fadein110
dumbest thread to date
- CanHasQBN0
You're all dumb. This whole courtroom is dumb. These blankets are dumb. Oranges are dumb. You're mom ain't that sharp, and I've gotta get back home before the sun sets. Stupid. All of it. You guys like Pringles?
- fate0
"Well that's pretty dumb isn't it? Technology is always going to change and evolve, just because someone born 90 years ago doesn't "get it", you consider it worthless? Strange line of thinking there.."
Not worthless, just lame and probably not a worthwhile way to spend your life.
If someone who has been on this planet 90 years can't instantly see your contribution to this world and your importance...guess what? You're probably not contributing to the world in a meaningful way, and what you're doing probably isn't important.
- qoob0
So if the same 90 year old can't appreciate some new artist, or music, or author, it's also lame and unimportant? Just trying to understand
- fate0
qoob, no, it's not about understanding the work itself.
It's about seeing the value of what we do.
You should be able to tell anyone...Grandma, any schmuck on the street, your children...what it is you do, and they *know* what you do is important and valuable to this world.
- Your argument is so flawed. I don't know many 90 year olds who see value in anything younger generations do.ETM
- And their inability to recognize, based on a dated frame of reference, doesn't invalidate anything.ETM
- Did your gran shit on your work, or something? It's like you have granny issues. lolETM
- BTW, I thought artists strived to blaze a path and NOT be understood or appreciated by past generations.ETM
- Not being understood was often a sign of success. Big band, beatniks, hippies, rock 'n roll...ETM
- fate never studied art history.Glitterati_Duane
- doesnotexist0
i do ecomm work for fashion & luxury brands. i think most of what goes on in the industry is SEO, best practices, and dealing with existing systems and vendors on the client side. but, through all that, if you can't see the light and opportunities to do new things then i would say design in general isn't for you (or you're in a rut so stop whining). this is a service industry oriented towards making millions of dollars for your clients, they're always looking for new and better solutions from you.
if new technology isn't tickling your brain (and there are tons of new things out there being developed), then you're just complacent and you should blame yourself, really.
imo, doing banner ads now at a place that's willing to take some risks could be super exciting. i've done pretty much everything you can do digitally, and what i love is having those moments where you get to do something differently with something so familiar.