Web design is lame
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- fate0
"Well that's pretty dumb isn't it? Technology is always going to change and evolve, just because someone born 90 years ago doesn't "get it", you consider it worthless? Strange line of thinking there.."
Not worthless, just lame and probably not a worthwhile way to spend your life.
If someone who has been on this planet 90 years can't instantly see your contribution to this world and your importance...guess what? You're probably not contributing to the world in a meaningful way, and what you're doing probably isn't important.
- qoob0
So if the same 90 year old can't appreciate some new artist, or music, or author, it's also lame and unimportant? Just trying to understand
- inteliboy0
It will ebb and flow. Just like when the modern magazine matured, the idea of a magazine spread was experimented with. This will happen with web design.
Also, considering the last 15 years of web design... I'm not sure there is that much to be nostalgic about. It's been a pretty ugly place until recently imo. The web is far better designed and interesting then it ever has been.
- fate0
qoob, no, it's not about understanding the work itself.
It's about seeing the value of what we do.
You should be able to tell anyone...Grandma, any schmuck on the street, your children...what it is you do, and they *know* what you do is important and valuable to this world.
- Your argument is so flawed. I don't know many 90 year olds who see value in anything younger generations do.ETM
- And their inability to recognize, based on a dated frame of reference, doesn't invalidate anything.ETM
- Did your gran shit on your work, or something? It's like you have granny issues. lolETM
- BTW, I thought artists strived to blaze a path and NOT be understood or appreciated by past generations.ETM
- Not being understood was often a sign of success. Big band, beatniks, hippies, rock 'n roll...ETM
- fate never studied art history.Glitterati_Duane
- qTime0
I'm amazed at how fractured the industry has become.
It feels like you have to specialise in something to get a job.
- doesnotexist0
i do ecomm work for fashion & luxury brands. i think most of what goes on in the industry is SEO, best practices, and dealing with existing systems and vendors on the client side. but, through all that, if you can't see the light and opportunities to do new things then i would say design in general isn't for you (or you're in a rut so stop whining). this is a service industry oriented towards making millions of dollars for your clients, they're always looking for new and better solutions from you.
if new technology isn't tickling your brain (and there are tons of new things out there being developed), then you're just complacent and you should blame yourself, really.
imo, doing banner ads now at a place that's willing to take some risks could be super exciting. i've done pretty much everything you can do digitally, and what i love is having those moments where you get to do something differently with something so familiar.
- ukit20
The web has gone mainstream. It cashed in and sold us out for the money.
- formed0
What I find far more "lame" is doing "bad" design.
I don't think it really matters what the medium is.
I come from an architecture background, so graphics/web will always seem "temporary" and "less meaningful", but really it doesn't matter. If you create a logo and basic website for some starting company that makes a huge difference in your client's business/life, that's pretty cool.
Everything changes. I do think Jobs/Apple essentially killed web design (eventually it'll come around, but 10 years of testing/progress are gone) and has left us with Word Press being the defacto standard that no one can avoid (not unless you have extreme budgets).
That is "lame", the rest just depends on the context you are looking at.
- fate0
" doing banner ads now at a place that's willing to take some risks could be super exciting"
Please exit this thread.
- Take a drawing or photography class for no reason but yourself. Chill and get some perspective again.ETM
- do you have any experience whatsoever in advertising?doesnotexist
- vaxorcist0
I think somebody needs to take up the guitar, or trumpet.... or windsurfing... something hedonistic and different can often inform your design, where you relearn how to be creative within tight boundaries... rather then fight them like a skydiver smashing his head against the airplane window....
- fate0
Guys, I have hobbies and other things I'm passionate about.
I still think web design is lame. The bean-counters and number geeks have taken over. There is no fun or passion in this field anymore.
Even print has more going for it...
- print doesmonospaced
- But why the fuck do we care about your hang up?ETM
- What validation are you seeking? The thread was not framed as a discussion or debate, but a statement.ETM
- The big budgets are still in TV, not online.jonnypompita
- vaxorcist0
they're not "hobbies and other things you're passionate about".... there's part of your LIFE... which is already waaay too short as it is, and not worth doing things you hate.... so if you make your LIFE worth living, you have a longer-term plan to stop making a living doing things you hate and start making a living doing what you're good at.... and if you're fixated on how the "bean counters and numbers geeks have taken over" then go elsewhere,... before you get too bitter.
- ernexbcn0
2013 just begun but I can give this thread the stupidest thread award already.
- ETM0
Online is so boring and uncreative. If only we had Flash still and the industry was a playground for companies with more ideas than business plans that handed out stocks like toilet paper and all went bust.
Seems like interesting stuff in the last few years still exists:
http://flipboard.com/
https://soundcloud.com/
http://slaveryfootprint.org/
http://www.ludei.com/sumon
http://helloracer.com/webgl/
http://discover.store.sony.com/t…
http://www.laurentiuswonen.com/j…- interesing urls.... and true about randomness of business plans....vaxorcist
- fate0
Let me put it to you this way.
No one here will disagree that Arnaud Mercier was a talented, skilled designer, or that his life was far too short.
But what was his legacy on this planet, beyond his family?
A bunch of web layouts.
- He was recognized for his work. Is that not something? Was he to cure cancer?ETM
- You could say that about any profession. Eventually our sun will explode too.jonnypompita
- ETM0
Listen you're clearly have some sort of existential crisis. Perhaps there is someone better to speak to than QBN. I mean that with sincerity.
- ernexbcn0
Cool story bro.